Home Office bid to remove citizenship without notice

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, kcmidlands said:

As already mentioned, it has to got to the House of Lords next, they used to have the power to reject Bill's that come from the house of commons but Cameron severely restricted that when he was in power with a number of parliamentary acts, they can send it back if they don't like certain texts in a bill for revision, they can delay an act of legislation for up to a year but ultimately the house of commons has more power now.

I don't think that amendment will be passed (but who knows?), but it's really important that we recognise the intent. 

 

[Suchi]

19 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I don't think that amendment will be passed (but who knows?), but it's really important that we recognise the intent. 

 

The intent is unclear at this stage as we don't know who's really behind it. 

If it's being brought by our Home Secretary it may be to rein in those shipping in illegals from across the waters. As we know she has been trying to modify the Home Office that is said to be totally corrupt. Many years ago an Iraqi acquaintance told him he could buy UK visas for his relatives for a price as there were individuals working at the Home Office willing to deliver. 

On the other hand it may be misused by any future Home Secretary who desires to change the demography or to satisfy a request from allies. Such as is currently happening to Julian Assange. 

It seems that the wording of the section has been taken directly from the RIP Act, justifying surveillance against those deemed to be bringing disrepute to the UK.

This surveillance includes the use of torture methods that breach all Human Rights laws and designed to break the will of whistleblowers. 

 

[dallysingh101]

2 hours ago, Suchi said:

The intent is unclear at this stage as we don't know who's really behind it. 

Wake up! It's as clear as day. 

[Kau89r8]

@Premi5

A least she is making the P in Patel PROUD lol

Honestly shes a witch..but good ppl can see the true faces of hinduvstas in the West. There was a footballer who tweeted called her out on BLM movement her hypocrisy.

Could be pro for Sikh mps in politics...left politics 

 

 

[Premi5]

On 12/12/2021 at 3:42 PM, MisterrSingh said:

I think it's political theatre with rather sinister undertones that people choose not to observe because they'so wracked with their desire to indulge in tribalism. It's not helped by the intellectual quarters of the media who lend the sham legitimacy by reporting on it as if the whole endeavour was above-aboard.

While I don't believe every single MP is in on the conspiracy, but certainly those who rise to Prime Minister and similar levels are aware, in even a vague sense, that they aren't really in control of anything meaningful. The public displays of disparity in ideology are nonsense.

Like I said, when one government of one particular party is voted out and replaced by a new government of the opposing political party, if they were truly ideologically in opposition as they would have us believe with their sham shouting matches in parliament (and, more specifically, the manner in which the opposing ideological wings of the media relish perpetuating the "battle" narrative), the swing from the political vision of the former imcumbents to the present would be noticeable in the policies they implement, and, in all frankness, such visible course correction in each instance would be observable and volatile. But there's nothing of the sort. It's one long continuation of the same policy, the only change is the "front" offered to placate the voters.

If the "root" ideology has been established as insurmountable and unchangeable regardless of who gets in power, then the only difference they offer to the people are the slight variations in the flavour of what's offered as a "choice" to the electorate. I'm not suggesting this was always the case, particularly in the past, but certainly since post-War decades coming into the 21st century there really is NO choice for people to vote their way out of issues plaguing them.

Would this have happened with Labour govt ? Seems less likely

21 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Wake up! It's as clear as day. 

It's clear they want to increase political powers and reduce peoples' freedom, and gain favour from voters. Is there anything else you are thinking about ?

[dallysingh101]

3 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

 

It's clear they want to increase political powers and reduce peoples' freedom, and gain favour from voters. Is there anything else you are thinking about ?

They are targeting specific minorities at this stage (Jamaicans and Sikhs) by the looks of it. It's like a dummy run. It's clearly a message for the right wing, meshed with pandering to the right wing hindus here. I think they want to bolster tory votes by acting tough on certain groups they feel are some what powerless to resist and don't have enough numbers for any significant vote bank?    Might also be the people they feel may physically be a problem for their agenda in future?

[Premi5]

3 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

They are targeting specific minorities at this stage (Jamaicans and Sikhs) by the looks of it. It's like a dummy run. It's clearly a message for the right wing, meshed with pandering to the right wing hindus here. I think they want to bolster tory votes by acting tough on certain groups they feel are some what powerless to resist and don't have enough numbers for any significant vote bank?    Might also be the people they feel may physically be a problem for their agenda in future?

There's not many more Hindus than Sikhs in the UK. Sikhs are high socioeconomically, which would seem ideal for Conservatives to target their votes. 

It does make sense however  that those groups along with Pakistanis or other Muslims seem the most 'physical'

 

[dallysingh101]

2 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

There's not many more Hindus than Sikhs in the UK. Sikhs are high socioeconomically, which would seem ideal for Conservatives to target their votes. 

It does make sense however  that those groups along with Pakistanis or other Muslims seem the most 'physical'

 

Until VERY recently Sikhs have always been staunch, hardcore Labour voters. Maybe tories know this? Some Sikhs are also the most likely (of Indians) to act the f**k up in certain circumstances. 

If there is truth that the farmer protests back home thwarted attempts for western corporations to get their claws into the Panjabi agricultural market - they'll see us as an enemy? Might be part of that too. Hindu india has a long term vision and plan with brits, Sikhs look like a potential spanner in the works for these plans? Maybe?    

[MisterrSingh]

17 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

Would this have happened with Labour govt ? Seems less likely

Wonderful left-wing, ethnic minority-loving Labour... that invaded Iraq and caused the deaths of millions of Muslims. 

[dallysingh101]

2 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Wonderful left-wing, ethnic minority-loving Labour... that invaded Iraq and caused the deaths of millions of Muslims. 

Don't forget the whole grooming thing exploded under their watch too!