Petition for Corey Pujols

[Premi5]

On 12/4/2021 at 9:49 AM, Premi5 said:

The man died. What do you think would be a fairer punishment ?

 

On 12/3/2021 at 10:31 AM, GurjantGnostic said:

I don't know about the US, but in the UK if you unintentionally kill someone, you are charged with manslaughter. 

In this case, 'aggravated' manslaughter seems too harsh. It doesn't say he will definitely get 30 years, just that that is the max sentence. 

If he has a good record otherwise, it should be much lower. 

@GurjantGnosticsince you live in the US, would you agree with what we hear in the UK that non-whites get much harsher sentences compared to whites there ?

Personally, I have no idea how I would treat this case. I don't see how long term prison sentences benefit anyone but the most dangerous criminals. 

[GurjantGnostic]

1 minute ago, Premi5 said:

 

I don't know about the US, but in the UK if you unintentionally kill someone, you are charged with manslaughter. 

In this case, 'aggravated' manslaughter seems too harsh. It doesn't say he will definitely get 30 years, just that that is the max sentence. 

If he has a good record otherwise, it should be much lower. 

@GurjantGnosticsince you live in the US, would you agree with what we hear in the UK that non-whites get much harsher sentences compared to whites there ?

Personally, I have no idea how I would treat this case. I don't see how long term prison sentences benefit anyone but the most dangerous criminals. 

Yes non whites statistically, imperically, get much harsher sentences. 

I don't know how to exactly treat the case either, but like you said the 30 years is too harsh potentially. 

[GurjantGnostic]

@Jassu 

If your relatives are racist, they need to change or go too. No room for racist Sikhs. And if they go getting up in people's faces screaming N***** I hope they get laid out too. And if they hit their weak <banned word filter activated> head. Oh well. 

Maybe pray at your Jatthera they get sorted out by Guru Ji before me. 

And how did none of them instill in you enough Sikhi to know not to date?

Let's sell their racism and buy you some sharam. So you all can sit and enjoy the warmth of that Dharam. 

[GurjantGnostic]

I stepped out of christianity because it was too over run, too infiltrated, beyond hope. (Also no Bani no Dharam) Sikhi is facing many of the same problems, but worth saving, and able to be saved. 

To all the racists out there pretending to be Sikhs. I'm not going anywhere. You are.

[Premi5]

5 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

@Jassu 

If your relatives are racist, they need to change or go too. No room for racist Sikhs. And if they go getting up in people's faces screaming N***** I hope they get laid out too. And if they hit their weak <banned word filter activated> head. Oh well. 

Maybe pray at your Jatthera they get sorted out by Guru Ji before me. 

Indians of the older generation (pre-'millennials') have tendency to racism. I don't think it's anything like the hardcore racism that exists in the States, it's more ignorance. Also, Indians are very 'colorist' - they much prefer lighter skinned people in their own societies. 

But you don't see it as much with Western-raised Indians. 

[Jacfsing2]

10 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

@Jassu 

If your relatives are racist, they need to change or go too. No room for racist Sikhs. And if they go getting up in people's faces screaming N***** I hope they get laid out too. And if they hit their weak <banned word filter activated> head. Oh well. 

Maybe pray at your Jatthera they get sorted out by Guru Ji before me. 

Most smart racists don’t do overt racism like they show in entertainment or something. It’s usually a lot more covert. I bet a whole bunch of people who we may see as equality banda might secretly be harboring racist or casteist views.

[GurjantGnostic]

It's all Har Kirpa. I wanted to ease myself into the hypocrisy and problems of the Paanth slowly. It's one of the reasons I joined here. I knew as I was approaching Sikhi, how perfect it is, I knew Sikhs by and large are excellent, but I also knew I was going to run into the negative aspect, and this place has allowed me to learn about Gurmat and also the problems that have taken root within us, and those we face. 

When I was truly fresh to this I knew it would break me to see the unberbelly, but as intended, the time, the information, most importantly the effects of the Gurmantar, have bolstered my immunity and resolve. 

If you're a racist, a casteist, a sexual predator and you're a Sikh, if you promote kurehit, want to change Sikhi to suit your ego, or have infiltrated, you best get it out the way before we cross paths. 

It's open season on those behaviors. 

[GurjantGnostic]

For the record. When those of us who understand hear a story like this told, we just start shaking our heads...make sharp inhaling noises..hang our heads...we get to the part where Corey for example punches the dude and we say "Coreyyy...noooo..bro..." Because we know he's right in a lot of ways and we know what's going to happen to him one way or another before we even hear the rest of the story. 

One on one with my younger brothers I always tell them they can't be Corey, that no matter how right it is, we can't afford to lose them over some dumb <banned word filter activated>. So there's a lot of talk of emotional intelligence, coping mechanisms, and a lot of encouragement and reinforcement of what is Right and what is real right now. 

I will in fact use Corey as an example to not be Corey moving forward. 

AND at the same time, not individually advised, but on the mass scale, I fully support a system whereby people are held directly accountable for their mouth and actions. 

If you have a friend that runs their mouth, what you tell them? Keep going and some day somebody is going to rightfully paste you one and you'll have it coming. And you'd be right. And it should be that way sometimes until it doesn't have to be that way.  

 

[GurjantGnostic]

There is a lot of truly damaging social, verbal and psychological abuses with no laws to ptotect anyone. It's emotional terrorism.

Nature says *mink mink mink*.

[dallysingh101]

5 hours ago, Jassu said:

During the height of the pandemic, a lot of Asians were facing racial abuse (I’m only mentioning verbal abuse; I’m aware of the physical abuse too) yet I didn’t hear them going around and knocking people out to the point of death.

Because most of them can't fight, that's the truth. If they could Bruce Lee a racist fudhu away they would have.  

Most race attacks are like that. The racists generally like to choose situations and people that aren't too much of a threat to them. I don't know what happened to this old fart though? Maybe he was so full of hate and contempt (and his past experiences taught him), that he thought there would be no consequences?