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1 hour ago, S1ngh said:

My wife is from Doaba area but did not lived there. I go along with everyone but for some reason, my close friends are mainly malwa folks - hailing from Ludhiana, bathinda, patiala. 

Do you think there's a difference in mentality from urban and rural Sikhs?

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1 minute ago, proactive said:

Now you know what everyone feels like when you bring your Jat bashing into each thread. 

You're the one constantly talking shyte that doesn't stand up.  I'm not sensitive like you. Which retards keep jumping onto any bandwagon for self-aggrandisement? Go look in the mirror.

Now this 'Jassu' (whether it's actually an apnee women and not some sweaty pakistani) is talking about genetics, when they don't even seem to have any brains and constantly make self-contradictory statements? 

I can tell you are retarded yourself by how you talk about fifth columns as if juts are some sort of models of behaviour, when you've got half nangi juttis in films jut men have made, juttis on stages dancing for people's entertainment and Waheguru only knows how many of you are actually christians, and still wearing Sikh roop? If these aren't a fifth column, what is? Let's not mention the hordes of Sikh murdering serial killer types from your ranks that wear a dastaar and keep their kesh.  

This isn't bashing anyone, just waking people up to realities that their delusions stop them facing. You live in some fantasy world in your head that isn't capable of figuring out and acknowledging the truth, because you're imprisoned by some id1otic notion of some sort of caste based superiority that doesn't bear out in real life.. That's really weak minded and that's why we keep going in circles as a panth like clowns. But what do you care - you can just bhangra-paa everything away.........  

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34 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Do you think there's a difference in mentality from urban and rural Sikhs?

Earth and Sky difference. Large majority of urban sikhs does not support anything that is pro-sikhi including the past 80's revolution. Rural Sikhs are good but more connected to the roots; however that may not be the case anymore. Still the difference is huge. Just like urban America leaning 100% toward liberal while rural America is more traditional family & religious orientated. 

Lack of empathy and support from Elite and urban sikh households toward the panth, dharam are the reasons why sikh kaum always get trampled on. That is the fact and nobody ever put focus on that area. I lived 100% of my India life in the urban area and spent my summer vacations in pind with grand parents.

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18 minutes ago, S1ngh said:

Earth and Sky difference. Large majority of urban sikhs does not support anything that is pro-sikhi including the past 80's revolution. Rural Sikhs are good but more connected to the roots; however that may not be the case anymore. Still the difference is huge. Just like urban America leaning 100% toward liberal while rural America is more traditional family & religious orientated. 

Lack of empathy and support from Elite and urban sikh households toward the panth, dharam are the reasons why sikh kaum always get trampled on. That is the fact and nobody ever put focus on that area. I lived 100% of my India life in the urban area and spent my summer vacations in pind with grand parents.

I think the fact that Sikhs are a majority in the rural areas and a minority in urban areas has a lot to do with this difference in outlook. The only two cities in India where I have seen the same outlook in urban Sikhs as rural Sikhs is in Jammu and Nanded. They will always come out in the streets for the Panth and are never found wanting when it comes to Panthic pride. 

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51 minutes ago, proactive said:

I think the fact that Sikhs are a majority in the rural areas and a minority in urban areas has a lot to do with this difference in outlook. The only two cities in India where I have seen the same outlook in urban Sikhs as rural Sikhs is in Jammu and Nanded. They will always come out in the streets for the Panth and are never found wanting when it comes to Panthic pride. 

@S1ngh I am referring to India here, not the West

I don't think it's like the minority/majority thing. The rural Sikhs do practice Hindu rituals and Mandirs to some extent, but mostly they know they are Sikhs and not inbetween half-Sikh/half-Hindu which is some of the mentality/culture that I have seen and aware of with Indian urban classes. If you are a minority, then surely there's just as good reason to be more defensive/'ready' as you are outnumbered ? Also, it will be in their blood as to survive the pind-wale over several generations would have had to done mainly physical work.

I would compare it to the 'working class' from in/around estates in the UK being like the tougher rural environment in India. These people also do mainly manual/physical jobs. 

Versus the softer urban living in India being comparable to living in a suburban middle class area in the UK. Not all, but generally the urban Sikh classes are wealther and have easier life compared to the average pind-wala. 

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1 hour ago, S1ngh said:

Just like urban America leaning 100% toward liberal while rural America is more traditional family & religious orientated. 

Bhai ji, it's more complicated than that. Look at how many of these rural, backwater places have evil organisations like the KKK running through them. Normalised incest and other weird things. I think between rural and urban, both have strong points and weak points. 

And we can't ignore the fact that most of our rural people are itching to come out to the west and live an urban life.  

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12 hours ago, Premi5 said:

My parents both from Ludhiana zila, what about your Mum's side - which district in Malwa ?

I have two uncles here who married Doabans.

Why bring jatts into a Sikhi discussion? And genetics? 

Btw, most of the 'kharkus' and high proportion of historical Sikh figures were from Majha. Majha is still relatively highly represented (at least from what I have seen) in terms of Amritdharis and Rehitvaan Sikhs. 

Malwa has highest population of Sikhs so would naturally have visibly more Sikhs who are religious but equally many who are not. Malwa seems the political 'heartland' since Partition - e.g. Badals, Captain, Channi, Beanta all from/born in Malwa. 

On the 'negative side' all the 'Manns' in Panjabi music are from Malwa. KP Gill , General K Brar . 

I think Malwa can also be broken down into subsections given how large it is. There's difference between say Mohali and Moga. Sant Jarnail Singh Ji were from Moga are, and many 'kharkus' were from around there. 

There are hardly any Sikhs and Panjabis from the western/southwestern part of Panjab abroad compared with the eastern side and bordering Doaba areas.

Ah yeah sure my mum is from Moga… and my dad is from a very small village near Goraya in Doaba…

I brought it because Malwa are known to have a lot of warriors throughout history and I think they are more hot headed and proud.

yeepp but recently Majha has been repped in songs lately… like in pannu’s song

https://youtu.be/Nabcq9GqOxY

 

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Doaba is pretty weak and home to very quasi sikh demographic, we have most deras and pakhandis (beas radhasoamis, nakodar, etc.) 

Jalandhar is known to be a more urban and urban sikhs tend to be sort of not as panthic as rural populations 

Hoshiarpur is slightly more rural but also haa a large non sikh population 

Sikhs of Doaba tend be lot more into deras and all that evidently 

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