Simran Karan vale monaas!

[shastarSingh]

I hv seen many amritdharis speak bad about monaas or treat them badly. I feel monaas shud be treated with love and sikhi parchar shud be done on them.

One of my relative who is a monaa lives in a pind near mohali. He gets up at 3:45 am daily and does paatth of japji Sahib, sukhmani sahib and zafarnama Sahib. In the evening he does rehraas Sahib and kirtan sohila. He is trying to find a religious girl and wants to keep hair before marriage.

My point is that monaas are our brothers and we shud treat them with love and respect.

[shastarSingh]

I also feel that monaas shud be first brought closer to Gurbani paatth, kirtan and guritihaas and slowly slowly shud be told to keep hair.

Some amritdharis would meet a monaa for the first time and would scold him for cutting hair and force him to keep hair. I don't think that's the right way of dealing with monaa brothers.

[GurjantGnostic]

38 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

I also feel that monaas shud be first brought closer to Gurbani paatth, kirtan and guritihaas and slowly slowly shud be told to keep hair.

Some amritdharis would meet a monaa for the first time and would scold him for cutting hair and force him to keep hair. I don't think that's the right way of dealing with monaa brothers.

Agree. The structure of the Paanth originally agrees. 

[Jacfsing2]

1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:

I hv seen many amritdharis speak bad about monaas or treat them badly. I feel monaas shud be treated with love and sikhi parchar shud be done on them.

One of my relative who is a monaa lives in a pind near mohali. He gets up at 3:45 am daily and does paatth of japji Sahib, sukhmani sahib and zafarnama Sahib. In the evening he does rehraas Sahib and kirtan sohila. He is trying to find a religious girl and wants to keep hair before marriage.

My point is that monaas are our brothers and we shud treat them with love and respect.

Don’t you judge bhappas though?

[shastarSingh]

31 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Don’t you judge bhappas though?

You wrote: The naamdharis basically view Sikhs as a sect of Hindus.

are you judging naamdharis?

no, u r stating a fact.

same way, I don't judge bhappaas.

I feel bhappaas r fine people as long as they don't control a panthic organization because when they control a panthic organization they:

1. Finish off warrior mindset of the organisation.

2. They flirt a bit with fellow girls and sometimes even their cousin sisters.

 

 

[shastarSingh]

On 12/21/2021 at 4:33 PM, shastarSingh said:

I hv seen many amritdharis speak bad about monaas or treat them badly. I feel monaas shud be treated with love and sikhi parchar shud be done on them.

One of my relative who is a monaa lives in a pind near mohali. He gets up at 3:45 am daily and does paatth of japji Sahib, sukhmani sahib and zafarnama Sahib. In the evening he does rehraas Sahib and kirtan sohila. He is trying to find a religious girl and wants to keep hair before marriage.

My point is that monaas are our brothers and we shud treat them with love and respect.

Anyone else know or met a monaa who is into simran and gurbani?

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:

Anyone else know or met a monaa who is into simran and gurbani?

I think more exist than people may think. 

A lot don't like to advertise it. 

[shastarSingh]

5 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I think more exist than people may think. 

A lot don't like to advertise it. 

But it's really inspiring to see monaas doing simran.

I also see a lot of Non amritdhari bibis who do a bit of make up and eyebrows but still do lots of sewa and simran in gurdwaras.

[GurjantGnostic]

44 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

But it's really inspiring to see monaas doing simran.

I also see a lot of Non amritdhari bibis who do a bit of make up and eyebrows but still do lots of sewa and simran in gurdwaras.

They haven't stepped up into Khalsa leadership, but those are most definitely important members of the Sikh Paanth. They are future Khalsa. Even if it's not this life. A lot of Mona don't take Amrit because they take it seriously. Some real fakers just up and play Amritdhari. Meanwhile behind closed doors. 

Definitely have had Mona Sikhs contribute in 1984 and against grooming gangs. What's more impressive? A dude that shows up to save a raped sister and future raped sisters, but who shaves, or somebody who grows Kesh but is otherwise worthless?

To be clear I support everyone to grow, keep and respect Kesh and not be worthless both. 

If you look at the organizational structures of gangs they rely on having at least two if not more tiers of being made, each with increased responsibilty. You know. Before the everyone becomes a snitch and ruins it. You have your prospects, affiliates, family members, things like this, you have your patched members, and sometimes a mafia tier above that. 

We have allies, families, Mona, Sehajdhari, Keshdhari, Amritdhari and Panj Pyare. 

All these Sikhs and allies deserve the utmost respect and inclusion and encouragment. Just no votes in democracy, in fact get rid if democracy entirely, but long story short, Khalsa Raj. 

[GurjantGnostic]

I'm all for quality over quantity, and some people need to be kept at arms distance or further, but we are like .4 percent of the world pop. We should probably respect the aforementioned people who have not taken Amrit...yet.

None of the aforementioned are to change Gursikhi to match themselves either. Khalsa Paanth. Rehit. A thing. If that's not you no worries. Leave it to the Khalsa. 

Like a Mona, or more importantly, born cultural Sikhs should be allowed to live as they see fit without abuse. But they should also recognize what is Gurmat vs what they are doing and leave their Mat where it belongs. Making personal mistakes until they're more disciplined. But they should be aware of what the stance is, what the Gurmat line is, and to push it, even if they don't yet resemble it.