muslims hoping Sikhs will help them against hindus.... i think not

[proactive]

13 minutes ago, justasking said:

 

This is no surprise. The surprising thing is that people ae actually surprised by this kind of mindset! The alignment of the liberals with the paedophile in Kashmir as well as the support he got from ALL of his community should have opened our eyes. 

[5aaban]

On 1/5/2022 at 10:11 AM, proactive said:

This is no surprise. The surprising thing is that people ae actually surprised by this kind of mindset! The alignment of the liberals with the paedophile in Kashmir as well as the support he got from ALL of his community should have opened our eyes. 

https://newsmobile.in/articles/2019/08/18/the-real-idea-of-india-how-a-sikh-group-escorted-kashmiri-girls-to-their-families/

While our community safely returned thier women to their families when they were being attacked all around India, they groom underage Sikh girls in Kashmir. This should be more than enough to open the Sikh community's eyes but some people in the Panth just don't understand.  

[proactive]

18 minutes ago, justasking said:

bro id be lying if i said i didn't agree with some sentimens of BJP when it comes to muslims and christian conversion rates the thing is we need our own SIkh version of hindutvas 

We had our version of Hindtva long before the Hindus even came up with theirs. It was called PANTHIC SOCH. Unfortunately nowadays Panthic soch means being complicit in the demographic and love jihad against our own people. People like Ravi Singh and others of his ilk masquerading as Panthic are the ones who over the last 20 years have degraded Panthic soch into liberalism. 

[justasking]

14 minutes ago, proactive said:

We had our version of Hindtva long before the Hindus even came up with theirs. It was called PANTHIC SOCH. Unfortunately nowadays Panthic soch means being complicit in the demographic and love jihad against our own people. People like Ravi Singh and others of his ilk masquerading as Panthic are the ones who over the last 20 years have degraded Panthic soch into liberalism. 

in order for us to make this thing work we gotta get rid of all these liberal types, hindu suck ups, and then start all over again clean, we can't get rid of one without getting rid the other to make this work for our ppl

[proudkaur21]

25 minutes ago, proactive said:

Sometimes we need to show some intelligence and not go with the stereotype of being a people that cannot think ahead. Looking at an all India level, what do you think a Congress victory bring to India? They will reinforce their Muslim vote bank and that means more love jihad but with those fighting against it being the ones prosecuted. Just as the Democrats in the USA are complicit in allowing illegal immigration because it increases their voter base, so the Congress will allow more and more illegal immigration from Bangladesh which leads to an increase in the Muslims in Punjab. We need to consider who is the least worse for us on an all India level. 

they are both equally bad no lol?

[jkvlondon]

10 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

they are both equally bad no lol?

yes we have no need of their corrupting mindsets or thetir ugly grasping natures wrt our resources and future generations . It is amazing to me how blind sikhs are to the realities of BJP influenced policies in Punjab they are allowing christians to thrive and convert sikhs whereas they have legislated and even physically expelled missionaries from other states; the question should be Why? distraction and undermining sikh renaissance as is happening in the west , they have insinuated themselves in EVERY educational institute including Khalsa Colleges  to exclude gursikhs from finals and waste their families' money , to remove panjabi and promote their agenda of hinduizing sikhi. What bigger insult is there to deny the shahadat of Guru Teg Bahadur ji and to diminish the sahibzadey as hindus born to protect hindus only.RSS have also announced love jihad on our girls and ladies they are the same as the musley love jihadists . filth pure filth

[proactive]

2 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

yes we have no need of their corrupting mindsets or thetir ugly grasping natures wrt our resources and future generations . It is amazing to me how blind sikhs are to the realities of BJP influenced policies in Punjab they are allowing christians to thrive and convert sikhs whereas they have legislated and even physically expelled missionaries from other states; the question should be Why? distraction and undermining sikh renaissance as is happening in the west , they have insinuated themselves in EVERY educational institute including Khalsa Colleges  to exclude gursikhs from finals and waste their families' money , to remove panjabi and promote their agenda of hinduizing sikhi. What bigger insult is there to deny the shahadat of Guru Teg Bahadur ji and to diminish the sahibzadey as hindus born to protect hindus only.RSS have also announced love jihad on our girls and ladies they are the same as the musley love jihadists . filth pure filth

These Christian missionaries were indirectly welcomed to Punjab because our fo.ols wanted to show how great we are by helping Christians against the Hindutvis. When that missionary gora Staines was murdered by the Hindutvis, the first thing our people did was stick their noses into the issue. We needed to keep out and defend our own people in Punjab but our lot were so stup.id that they tried to insinuate that the Hindutvis were trying to defame Sikhs because the murderer had the surname SINGH!  The missionaries even went to Akal Takht to seek 'protection' This is the level of stupidity that our lot displayed which allowed the Christian missionaries to understand just how gullible our leadership is and they shifted their focus to target our people. It is a self inflicted wound and you cannot blame the Hindtuvis when our own people were the ones that allowed them to target Punjab. When the issue was still minor and manageable in 2009 we had people like Ravi Singh asking for daswand to save poor Sikhs from the crutches of these missionaries and what did he do with the money he got? He spent on 'humanitarian' aid!

We need to look at our own shortcomings rather than just push all the blame to the Hindutvis. What power do the Hindutvis have to create a anti-conversion act in Punjab? Do you think a Congress, Akali or even AAP govt will bring this law in? No because they have all sold out and they care more for the few lakh Christian votes than the danger that these missionaries pose to Punjab. 

Because of the liberalism that we have allowed to infect our people, we have become so weak that any jannah khannah riots in Punjab and destroys public property. Look at the rapist sadh and his followers. Even the Christians rioted in Punjab when there was a rumour that someone had made a mocking poster of Jesus. They rioted in areas where they are only 5-10% Christians and they wanted to show their strength and that in a Sikh majority state they could riot with impunity. Who were the ones who confronted them and forced them to run for their lives, it was the Hindutvis. 

jesus caricature outrages christians in punjab - ucanews.com

The Christian protesters looted shops and destroyed some motorcycles. Police and local people beat up this group. Then, a Hindu mob attacked two churches and burned another, all belonging to Protestant Churches. The police arrested many Christian youths. Father Kavumpuram said as soon as the Hindu radicals retaliated, leaders of the Christians protesting fled the scene

We need to introspect on why it is that given that there is enough evidence in Punjab as there is the BJP ruled states of the inducement that missionaries are giving for converting the lower castes yet only in the BJP ruled states has an anti-conversion law been enacted. Why is it that we elect politicians that care more for 2 lakh Christian votes which cannot even tilt more than 1-2 seats in Punjab and yet they care less for the 10 million Sikh voters? 

There is no doubt that Hindutvis have attempted to infiltrate our institutions. But we need to wise up because we have elected politicians like the Badals who have opened the door to their infiltration. Why have the Panthic Sikhs failed so miserably to take the SGPC or other Sikh insitutions like the Akali Dal away from the Badals. You might think this is because the BJP is in power at the centre, but over 17 years of the Badal's tie up with the BJP there was Congress govts at the centre. Let us own up to our own failings as well. 

[proudkaur21]

5 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

yes we have no need of their corrupting mindsets or thetir ugly grasping natures wrt our resources and future generations . It is amazing to me how blind sikhs are to the realities of BJP influenced policies in Punjab they are allowing christians to thrive and convert sikhs whereas they have legislated and even physically expelled missionaries from other states; the question should be Why? distraction and undermining sikh renaissance as is happening in the west , they have insinuated themselves in EVERY educational institute including Khalsa Colleges  to exclude gursikhs from finals and waste their families' money , to remove panjabi and promote their agenda of hinduizing sikhi. What bigger insult is there to deny the shahadat of Guru Teg Bahadur ji and to diminish the sahibzadey as hindus born to protect hindus only.RSS have also announced love jihad on our girls and ladies they are the same as the musley love jihadists . filth pure filth

facts i dont understand why sikhs think love jihad is only with muslims? Ive seen sikh females married to these hindu men since im from the city area and none of the kids ended up as sikhs. But its funny how they cry about love jihad while doing the same with sikh women. I mean there are 500 million hindu females why not just marry them? Even in punjab you will see them going after sikh females instead of their own.

[proudkaur21]

2 hours ago, proactive said:

These Christian missionaries were indirectly welcomed to Punjab because our fo.ols wanted to show how great we are by helping Christians against the Hindutvis. When that missionary gora Staines was murdered by the Hindutvis, the first thing our people did was stick their noses into the issue. We needed to keep out and defend our own people in Punjab but our lot were so stup.id that they tried to insinuate that the Hindutvis were trying to defame Sikhs because the murderer had the surname SINGH!  The missionaries even went to Akal Takht to seek 'protection' This is the level of stupidity that our lot displayed which allowed the Christian missionaries to understand just how gullible our leadership is and they shifted their focus to target our people. It is a self inflicted wound and you cannot blame the Hindtuvis when our own people were the ones that allowed them to target Punjab. When the issue was still minor and manageable in 2009 we had people like Ravi Singh asking for daswand to save poor Sikhs from the crutches of these missionaries and what did he do with the money he got? He spent on 'humanitarian' aid!

We need to look at our own shortcomings rather than just push all the blame to the Hindutvis. What power do the Hindutvis have to create a anti-conversion act in Punjab? Do you think a Congress, Akali or even AAP govt will bring this law in? No because they have all sold out and they care more for the few lakh Christian votes than the danger that these missionaries pose to Punjab. 

Because of the liberalism that we have allowed to infect our people, we have become so weak that any jannah khannah riots in Punjab and destroys public property. Look at the rapist sadh and his followers. Even the Christians rioted in Punjab when there was a rumour that someone had made a mocking poster of Jesus. They rioted in areas where they are only 5-10% Christians and they wanted to show their strength and that in a Sikh majority state they could riot with impunity. Who were the ones who confronted them and forced them to run for their lives, it was the Hindutvis. 

jesus caricature outrages christians in punjab - ucanews.com

The Christian protesters looted shops and destroyed some motorcycles. Police and local people beat up this group. Then, a Hindu mob attacked two churches and burned another, all belonging to Protestant Churches. The police arrested many Christian youths. Father Kavumpuram said as soon as the Hindu radicals retaliated, leaders of the Christians protesting fled the scene

We need to introspect on why it is that given that there is enough evidence in Punjab as there is the BJP ruled states of the inducement that missionaries are giving for converting the lower castes yet only in the BJP ruled states has an anti-conversion law been enacted. Why is it that we elect politicians that care more for 2 lakh Christian votes which cannot even tilt more than 1-2 seats in Punjab and yet they care less for the 10 million Sikh voters? 

There is no doubt that Hindutvis have attempted to infiltrate our institutions. But we need to wise up because we have elected politicians like the Badals who have opened the door to their infiltration. Why have the Panthic Sikhs failed so miserably to take the SGPC or other Sikh insitutions like the Akali Dal away from the Badals. You might think this is because the BJP is in power at the centre, but over 17 years of the Badal's tie up with the BJP there was Congress govts at the centre. Let us own up to our own failings as well. 

I hate how our lot have to always act like superman in everything. What are they trying to prove to the world? Sab da theka litta hoya hai? I cringe anytime i see news about langar now. Even i feel they have turned it to pr stunt.

[proudkaur21]

16 hours ago, 5aaban said:

https://newsmobile.in/articles/2019/08/18/the-real-idea-of-india-how-a-sikh-group-escorted-kashmiri-girls-to-their-families/

While our community safely returned Kashmiri Muslim girls to their families when they were being attacked all around India, they returned the favour by grooming underage Kashmiri Sikh girls. This should be more than enough to open the Sikh community's eyes but some people in the Panth just don't understand.  

we also need to find out why our women are so gullible? Parents are weak and dont tell their daughters to set boundaries? i have been always close with my mom and always tell her about everything. Could it  be these kids are not close to their parents and cannot discuss things freely with them and are scared of repercussions.