How to measure bhagti?

[ishvtan]

Veerji if you dont know their real avastha fer tusi kyun tipni Karde o, specially someone who has left this world. 

And how do we know what baba ji's exact words were, what you are saying is based on what giani thakur singh said. 

Did I say he cant make mistake? 
Did I say he is perfect? 
Did I say he is Guru sahib? 

Main bachpan to sangat kiti ah babaji di, he even came to our house. 

He was samdrisht, nimrata si, sarbat da bhala si...especially ardas karvonde si, Waheguru layi bairag si, simran ch leen si, nirlap si tho amongst us, shaantmaye si.. never said bad about anyone, never argued....Waheguru naal jor de si, Guru Granth Sahib ji de aggay ardas Karan nu khe dinde si if anyone desired something. Guided ppl to respect everyone and practice their own religion with sharda. 

[Arsh1469]

11 hours ago, Singh1989 said:

No, you have confused Sant Takhur Singh with someone else completely. 

I thought of "Giani" Thakur Singh.

[Arsh1469]

5 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Plz watch from 4:00

 

Let's just believe whatever anyone says. It says real story so it must be real.

[Jai Tegang!]

The reason for Satguru Guru Nanak Dev Ji coming to this world is also the unbearable sins of the world. I'm sure anit-sikhs would scoff at this assertion. There is probably a lot that goes on behind the scenes with keeping humanity from going extinct. The only thing Gyani Thakur Singh did is share this stuff out in the open, which he perhaps should not do because people are just not receptive of anything beyond their understanding.

We need to respect and value our Mahapurkhs along with our Soormay. They both are important for a balanced Panth.

[Jacfsing2]

30 minutes ago, Jai Tegang! said:

The reason for Satguru Guru Nanak Dev Ji coming to this world is also the unbearable sins of the world. I'm sure anit-sikhs would scoff at this assertion. There is probably a lot that goes on behind the scenes with keeping humanity from going extinct. The only thing Gyani Thakur Singh did is share this stuff out in the open, which he perhaps should not do because people are just not receptive of anything beyond their understanding.

We need to respect and value our Mahapurkhs along with our Soormay. They both are important for a balanced Panth.

Sikhs today are too focused on not sounding like other religions, (in this case Christianity), so I’d assume that’s why many Sikhs are too afraid to say something like Guru Sahib came to take weight of sins on earth. 

[GurjantGnostic]

39 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Sikhs today are too focused on not sounding like other religions, (in this case Christianity), so I’d assume that’s why many Sikhs are too afraid to say something like Guru Sahib came to take weight of sins on earth. 

Yeahh... we're so nice..anyway truth hurts, step aside christians. We loved the message Christ brought, we can read it ourselves. We're here for the main course though. The full meal. 

[shastarSingh]

10 hours ago, Arsh1469 said:

Let's just believe whatever anyone says. It says real story so it must be real.

Lol

Guru Angad dev ji has also taught us not to interfere in Waheguru's hukam.

Waheguru ji is a self created INFINITE being. He alone knows His ways. His plans are mysterious. 

First of all we shud not interfere in Waheguru's plans.

But If we want to make some change in His plans, we shud just do a nimaani Ardaas.

We shud not lock ourselves in a room and tell the world that we changed a plan of Waheguru by doing tap for so many days.

[Premi5]

22 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Do you hv any Gurbani pankitis indicating that sant can tell Waheguru ji to change His plans ?

Baba Atal Rai, probably a brahmgyani or very close to it,brought a dead friend of his to life and Guru Hargobind Sahib did not like it and asked His son to die as he interfered in God's hukam.

Same thing happened to baba Gurditta ji, a brahmgyani for sure, when he brought a dead cow to life and Guru Hargobind Sahib did not like it and baba Gurditta ji had to give his life.

What do u make of the above sakhis?

I don't who exactly are 'Brahmgiani' but in Sri Sukhmani Sahib Jee:

barahm gi-aanee aap nirankaar.

The God-conscious being is himself the Formless Lord.

[shastarSingh]

8 hours ago, Jai Tegang! said:

There is probably a lot that goes on behind the scenes with keeping humanity from going extinct. The only thing Gyani Thakur Singh did is share this stuff out in the open, which he perhaps should not do because people are just not receptive of anything beyond their understanding.

We need to respect and value our Mahapurkhs along with our Soormay. They both are important for a balanced Panth.

I agree that it's the bhagti of mahapurash people that gives power to earth to tolerate the sins of manmukhs.

But mahapuraks remain in bhaanaa and don't just keep on doing ardaasan " o waheguru stop a future nuclear war, stop a future natural calamity etc"

Also to be a true mahaPurakh, one doesn't necessarily hv to live in a dera and call oneself sant baba.

[Redoptics]

7 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Sikhs today are too focused on not sounding like other religions, (in this case Christianity), so I’d assume that’s why many Sikhs are too afraid to say something like Guru Sahib came to take weight of sins on earth. 

So now you can repent and all your sins are taken away ? Ve very careful in what you are saying , some people might take that on board.