Hindustani wishing 1984 on Sikhs

[proudkaur21]

4 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

Yep. Bhai Jagraj Singh has this similar idea too..

Question is where and also are we even capable (fitness wise) 

grew up in the city and dont even expect anything from the city sikhs. Only ones that have some anakh are a few rural ones.

[Kau89r8]

Just now, dallysingh101 said:

 

Just like jumping into wars in europe when we should have been focusing on Panjab. Look where that got us and how much we lost at partition.

And it wasn't like there weren't apnay who understood this. Choose who you support carefully. 

 

 

 

 

Since 47, we've lost alot man..i think apne just get caught up with their egos and Poonjabi Jatt music, inflate their egos, pics of Sant Ji and Khrakus Music and waving flags 'im punjabi not indian', yet cant really get to grips how much we have loss since 47 to 84...and dont want to learn reflect what we need to do for the future. 

[Kau89r8]

Just now, proudkaur21 said:

grew up in the city and dont even expect anything from the city sikhs. Only ones that have some anakh are a few rural ones.

They are more like the typical Jatt gangster wannabes that end up turning their lives when they get back to Sikhi and become khrakus types 

[proudkaur21]

2 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

Since 47, we've lost alot man..i think apne just get caught up with their egos and Poonjabi Jatt music, inflate their egos, pics of Sant Ji and Khrakus Music and waving flags 'im punjabi not indian', yet cant really get to grips how much we have loss since 47 to 84...and dont want to learn reflect what we need to do for the future. 

100%. We run to goras country and wave khalistan flags. No wonder people laugh at us. Then we talk about loving punjab all the while running away from it. All of us are just talk no action. The real ones are those fighting back home not us. The ones going to jail.

[dallysingh101]

1 minute ago, shastarSingh said:

Many Sindhi Hindus hv become Sikhs.

Bagri Rajasthani Hindus in sindh hv started becoming sikhs too.

Now the question is why Sikhs hv not been able to convert Hindus in India to Sikhism?

1. We never tried or had a strategy to do so. It's only due to kisan andolan that we hv realized the potential of jaats coming into Sikhism.

2. We hv completely given up simran. We hv become even more mayadhari than fellow Indian people. We are running after money and dollars and parcharaks and brahmgyani babaas are also doing the same.

Sikhi brother, not Sikhism, please. 

Notice as well, when we act nobly and bravely, it makes people want to convert. When we act arrogantly and haughtily towards others, they want us to die in 84 type genocides. 

I think Sikhi has been suppressed from the colonial era (where they pushed some twisted version of 'Sikhism') and that we've become infected by that vacuum. I think now is the time for things to change, and we become more sophisticated and outwardly expansive in a tactful and respectful way. We have to believe in it ourselves though, if you've got some mixed up, confused identity half-Sikh, half-caste and excessively regional too (and I say that as a Panjabi), how are you going to  teach anyone else - especially a nonPanjabi nonSikh? 

[proudkaur21]

3 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Sikhi brother, not Sikhism, please. 

Notice as well, when we act nobly and bravely, it makes people want to convert. When we act arrogantly and haughtily towards others, they want us to die in 84 type genocides. 

I think Sikhi has been suppressed from the colonial era (where they pushed some twisted version of 'Sikhism') and that we've become infected by that vacuum. I think now is the time for things to change, and we become more sophisticated and outwardly expansive in a tactful and respectful way. We have to believe in it ourselves though, if you've got some mixed up, confused identity half-Sikh, half-caste and excessively regional too (and I say that as a Panjabi), how are you going to  teach anyone else - especially a nonPanjabi nonSikh? 

But we get emotional and attached to punjab because it is our homeland and being exploited and also the fact that it should be sikhi's epicenter just like mecca . So i dont think its bad to be attached to punjab as a sikh? Just like you see christians obsessed with Jerusalem because it is the birthplace of their religion. If punjab wasnt in this state i dont think we would talk about it constantly to this extent.

[dallysingh101]

6 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

But we get emotional and attached to punjab because it is our homeland and being exploited and also the fact that it should be sikhi's epicenter just like mecca . So i dont think its bad to be attached to punjab as a sikh? Just like you see christians obsessed with Jerusalem because it is the birthplace of their religion. If punjab wasnt in this state i dont think we would talk about it constantly to this extent.

I get that, I'm emotionally attached to it too. But I'm just saying, if we're going to start mass conversions, we have to get away from that brash, obnoxious, supercilious, loud mouthed Panjabi characteristic too. 

[dallysingh101]

And you women, you need to be getting into this stuff too. If you're in Canada or the US where it's legal, do it. Learn to clean them, fix them too.  

 

 

[SikhKosh]

27 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Many Sindhi Hindus hv become Sikhs.

Bagri Rajasthani Hindus in sindh hv started becoming sikhs too.

Now the question is why Sikhs hv not been able to convert Hindus in India to Sikhism?

1. We never tried or had a strategy to do so. It's only due to kisan andolan that we hv realized the potential of jaats coming into Sikhism.

2. We hv completely given up simran. We hv become even more mayadhari than fellow Indian people. We are running after money and dollars and our parcharaks and brahmgyani babaas are also doing the same.

Bagri Hindus started becoming Sikhs in Pakistan since decades, its not a recent phenomena. The Nanakpanthi Sindhis and Christians coming en masse to Sikhi (saroop wise for Sindhis) has been more of a recent thing (lets say posts 2000s).
We should not forget that a majority of Pak Christians are Dalits as well and conversion to Christianity did not help them uplift their status in society, while they're seeing multiple benefits of becoming Sikhs. Therefore proper initiatives would be good to give out tailor made parchar (it has to be slightly different per target group, just like the Gurus using different metaphors to explain Sikhi when talking to a farmer, priest or trader in Gurbani). 

You'd be surprised to know that many Sikhs who stayed back in Pak adopted Christianity instead of becoming Muslims. I've met many such Pak Christians with Sikh ancestry.

[GurjantGnostic]

8 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

Diseased animals

No kidding. Totally unhealthy. The <banned word filter activated>?