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3HO sikhs should re-convert to authentic Sikhi or drop the name


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2 hours ago, Guest Ex-Gora said:

I agree with most of what you say. At some point in history, the majority of Christians were from Judea, i.e., one ethnic group. Then later on there was a time when Arians, Gnostics, and other sects were predominant in various areas over what we call mainstream Christianity today. The point isn't to say a given religion should necessarily strive to be either homogeneous or heterogeneous ethnically. Neither that Chalcedonian (mainstream) Christianity is better than its extinct rivals. The point is that without parcharaks in the west people won't know about authentic Sikhi.

Real Sikhi is online these days. Many accusations have been launched at 3ho. They're just cultists bro. 

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Because that was a paid agenda bro, it's a paid program that was set up here, and it had ways of enticing people into it, some of those ways were cult sex practices. White people are also more than ha

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We need to be more pragmatic. Unlike the cults in India such as Nirankaris and the followers of the rapist sadh they do not seek to convert Punjabi Sikhs into their organisation and as far as I know t

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3 hours ago, proactive said:

We need to be more pragmatic. Unlike the cults in India such as Nirankaris and the followers of the rapist sadh they do not seek to convert Punjabi Sikhs into their organisation and as far as I know they do not say that they are the REAL Sikhs and we are all fakes as some cults do. Unlike these cults they also do not harbour any animosity towards us. They are following a version of Sikhi which suits them or which they have been taught.  I look at it this way, because we have failed to do parchar of Sikhi in the west and have spent what resources we have to giving out 'free food' and attempting to become the 4th emergency service we cannot expect white people to take to Sikhi on their own.  Due to our failure, what little Sikh influence there has been it has been by Yogi Bhajan and the 3HO. Just by the very fact that we see Goray in Bana normalises out identity in the west, we lose our otherness in the eyes of the ordinary white person when white people also wear the Bana. This isn't ideal but until we have organisations working to preach Sikhi to the west then we need to accept that having 3HO Sikhs is better than no 3H0 Sikhs. The more 3HO Sikhs there are then the better it is for us because if not them, then their sons and daughters will one day become Sikhs like the rest of us.

Here’s the thing, Basics Of Sikhi has been the main group to invite new people towards Sikhi as well as bringing lost people towards Sikhi in the West, not 3HO. 3HO brand usually goes more towards a very Sannatan view towards Sikhi along with elements of Christianity that’s it’s hardly recognizable as Sikhi even amongst some of our most Sannatan Sikhs. 

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22 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I would have thought in this day and age, where everyone uses the Interweb to do research, they'd be hard pressed not to encounter alterative points of views? 

Quite frankly, I doubt that 3HO has grown much since the dawn of the Internet era. Certainly not since pakhandi baba left this world.

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16 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Watching you 3ho. 

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Oh my Gosh, no wonder why noone posts on this forum anymore- you have literally just posted 5 posts to yourself. You're literally trolling this forum with your negativity. why don't you let other poeple have a chance to speak, oh no thats right, you've trolled them all off the forum so you can take over. How sad. This forum has literally a trillionth of the glory it had in the day. Hope it gets better with actual Good people, not fakes and trolls.

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On 1/16/2022 at 11:11 PM, GurjantGnostic said:

Here's another one how can I know this and type it into Google and someone be in 3ho and not know?

 

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These 'second gen' 3HO do really good Keertan

https://www.sikhnet.com/gurbani/artist/chardikala-jatha

 

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Chardikala Jatha

 

The Chardhi Kala Jatha consists of multiple musicians, Jugat Guru Singh Khalsa, Sada Sat Simran Singh Khalsa, Hari Mander Jot Singh Khalsa, Ajai Singh Khalsa, Hargobind Singh Khalsa, and GurPrakash Singh Khalsa. They sing classical Gurbani Kirtan in traditional raag as taught to them from the classical music master Ustaad Narinder Singh Sandhu. The Jatha travels the world playing gurbani kirtan at gurudwaras. They feel blessed to have played on many special occasions at the Golden Temple, Harimandir Sahib in Amritsar.

 

@shastarSingh - you know them ?

 

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2 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

These 'second gen' 3HO do really good Keertan

https://www.sikhnet.com/gurbani/artist/chardikala-jatha

 

chardikala-jatha.jpg?itok=LNxXFXia

Chardikala Jatha

 

The Chardhi Kala Jatha consists of multiple musicians, Jugat Guru Singh Khalsa, Sada Sat Simran Singh Khalsa, Hari Mander Jot Singh Khalsa, Ajai Singh Khalsa, Hargobind Singh Khalsa, and GurPrakash Singh Khalsa. They sing classical Gurbani Kirtan in traditional raag as taught to them from the classical music master Ustaad Narinder Singh Sandhu. The Jatha travels the world playing gurbani kirtan at gurudwaras. They feel blessed to have played on many special occasions at the Golden Temple, Harimandir Sahib in Amritsar.

 

@shastarSingh - you know them ?

 

I don't know them personally but Gurwinder Singh nangli is in contact with miri piri academy in Amritsar.

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They ever talk about giving up the cult life for the real thing?

Or speak out for Jaggi as they go around?

Or consider using their massive web platform and Daswandh to help him out?

No?

I guess playing appropriated Kirtan is as good as we'll get. 

 

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54 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

These 'second gen' 3HO do really good Keertan

https://www.sikhnet.com/gurbani/artist/chardikala-jatha

 

chardikala-jatha.jpg?itok=LNxXFXia

Chardikala Jatha

 

The Chardhi Kala Jatha consists of multiple musicians, Jugat Guru Singh Khalsa, Sada Sat Simran Singh Khalsa, Hari Mander Jot Singh Khalsa, Ajai Singh Khalsa, Hargobind Singh Khalsa, and GurPrakash Singh Khalsa. They sing classical Gurbani Kirtan in traditional raag as taught to them from the classical music master Ustaad Narinder Singh Sandhu. The Jatha travels the world playing gurbani kirtan at gurudwaras. They feel blessed to have played on many special occasions at the Golden Temple, Harimandir Sahib in Amritsar.

 

@shastarSingh - you know them ?

 

If they're not talking Paanthic issues I'm not interested. There are people that dress up to go Morris dancing too. Some of them are quite good. Doesn't free Jaggi. 

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50 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

You know who else plays good Kirtan? Little hindu girls with an rss sponsorship. My money says this first video blows those dudes straight out the water. 

 

 

 

 

How do you know she’s RSS?

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