sikhs have no ingroup loyalty

[dallysingh101]

10 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

https://www.essentiallysports.com/football-news-soccer-news-video-iconic-singhs-spotted-at-manchester-united-match-after-nearly-a-decade/

I see the 3 on the left are going for the traditional look with their tidhs.  Real sexy...... 

[proudkaur21]

3 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Come on. Legally they weren't allowed to bring Sikh wives into the country then. Those ex-soldiers laxity in promoting their faith to their progeny is telling though.  

But then why all children christians? I'd rather die alone than marry a nonsikh and have children who follow another religion. 

[dallysingh101]

55 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

But then why all children christians?

 

I think those colonial-sepoy guys maybe weren't ever truly dharmic or into Sikhi. I think most just maybe took Amrit to join the fauj (as it was a requirement) to make money?  

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I'd rather die alone than marry a nonsikh and have children who follow another religion. 

 

I hear that. 

Even then sis. There is no guarantee your kids will feel the dharam. I've seen too many children of very adherent, pillar Sikh parents go haywire.  

[Kau89r8]

 

[Kau89r8]

They are making laws in the UK passed by P*atels on stripping your from UK citizenship if one of you parents doesn't hold UK citizenship and you have you can be trouble you can be sent of..Sikhs are most at risk...

This can happen anywhere in West ...hinduvasta lobby and sucking up to far-rights is powerful. In India we will always be targeted....

Not safe anywhere...no homeland nothing...

@proudkaur21 @dallysingh101 @proactive etc etc 

[dallysingh101]

57 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

They are making laws in the UK passed by P*atels on stripping your from UK citizenship if one of you parents doesn't hold UK citizenship and you have you can be trouble you can be sent of..Sikhs are most at risk...

This can happen anywhere in West ...hinduvasta lobby and sucking up to far-rights is powerful. In India we will always be targeted....

Not safe anywhere...no homeland nothing...

@proudkaur21 @dallysingh101 @proactive etc etc 

If anyone knew the true history between the english and Sikhs (outside of buml1cking colonial sepoy narratives), none of this comes as any surprise.   

[proudkaur21]

1 hour ago, Kau89r8 said:

They are making laws in the UK passed by P*atels on stripping your from UK citizenship if one of you parents doesn't hold UK citizenship and you have you can be trouble you can be sent of..Sikhs are most at risk...

This can happen anywhere in West ...hinduvasta lobby and sucking up to far-rights is powerful. In India we will always be targeted....

Not safe anywhere...no homeland nothing...

@proudkaur21 @dallysingh101 @proactive etc etc 

Maybe this is our chance to get our homeland back now that our people know we cannot lose punjab as we can be kicked out of any country. I mean we kicked whites out of india so it could be possible in the future whites will kick us out no?

[proudkaur21]

55 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

If anyone knew the true history between the english and Sikhs (outside of buml1cking colonial sepoy narratives), none of this comes as any surprise.   

But we did kick out whites no out of india? I dont know why we go to other countries and live there and believe that now we are forever going to be here. You never know what's gonna happen in the future. There is already rising white nationalism in all countries. Things are not going to be the same in the future . Our downfall was because of the fact we became too comfortable when we got the throne. We forgot how much blood we shed before we finally got khalsa raj and then we became carefree. As a sikh we are supposed to be prepared. Times change so quickly. We came here to these countries and think now everything is fine. Everytime we let our guard down our downfall comes.

[dallysingh101]

3 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

But we did kick out whites no out of india?

It's not as simple as that. Plenty, if not most of our pendus were up their ar5e (chaaplooses so to speak). Model colonial subjects. But yeah, there were movements resisting them throughout their occupation. If you ain't seen Sardar Udham by now, you should, because it's about one such movement.

 

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I dont know why we go to other countries and live there and believe that now we are forever going to be here. You never know what's gonna happen in the future. There is already rising white nationalism in all countries. Things are not going to be the same in the future . Our downfall was because of the fact we became too comfortable when we got the throne. We forgot how much blood we shed before we finally got khalsa raj and then we became carefree. As a sikh we are supposed to be prepared. Times change so quickly. We came here to these countries and think now everything is fine. Everytime we let our guard down our downfall comes. 

I agree. I think 2nd generation people like me are more likely to perceive what you are saying. 

I think Khalsacentric Sikh culture has all but disappeared, and I don't just mean just people taking Amrit, but the whole weapons culture, socio-political, dharmic society transforming energy. It's been replaced by things like western liberalism, Panjabicentric casteism and other weakening vichaars.  People are waking up though. But maybe we need to face up to the fact that majority of apnay want comfortable lives and status over anything else including sovereign independence? 

[proudkaur21]

On 1/25/2022 at 11:32 AM, Kau89r8 said:

 

Punjab has had so many invasions since the past 2000 years. Our people are constantly fighting off invaders then how can we invent stuff when we are constantly under stress and fighting? How many invasions have the anglos had?