Pakistani Punjabis running Grooming Gangs in UK, why is all the blame on Mirpuris?

[dallysingh101]

15 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Doesn't he have bodyguards at all times? Did you see  them ?

No I didn't. 

[Premi5]

 

@Lioness98

I estimate majority of the Pak Panjabis and 'Mirpuris' in the Uk who are 'wrong uns' are from the area of the map to the left of the lines.

 

[Lioness98]

On 2/10/2022 at 9:03 PM, Rsingh1978 said:

I’m from Telford myself and majority of the pakistanis that live here are punjabis. They’re mainly from places like jhelum, Gujrat and Lahore and from what I’ve read and heard, the grooming gang from Telford were all punjabis. OP’s right the perpetrators are from all over Pakistan ,and it’s sad to see how some of our people claim pak punjabis as our brethren just because we speak the same language. I’m glad gurdwaras are raising more awareness about this issue it’s the only way we’ll be able to protect our children.

Thank you for bringing our attention to this. I was not aware of the Telford perpetrators being Pak Punjabis but it makes sense.

Some gullible apne believe Pak Punjabis are our brethren however the vast majority of our people are intelligent enough to decipher the reality of these grooming gangs and they know Pakistani Punjabis are involved in abundance. 

[Lioness98]

On 2/13/2022 at 4:33 PM, Premi5 said:

 

@Lioness98

I estimate majority of the Pak Panjabis and 'Mirpuris' in the Uk who are 'wrong uns' are from the area of the map to the left of the lines.

 

They are all equally as bad as each other when it comes to their views of Sikhs.

[Rsingh1978]

On 2/11/2022 at 3:54 PM, Premi5 said:

Still think you're overplaying the importance of the people not far from Lahore like Faisalabad. The 'wrong uns' from my observation are mainly from Northern Panjab like Rawalpindi/Islamabad, Gujar Khan, Gujrat and Jhelum areas, which are near to the 'Azad Kashmir' area, if not Mirpuri

Definitely agree their influence on other Pak Panjabis though here, and that religion comes first by far for majority of them compared to our Panjabis 

The Huddersfield grooming gang were all Faisalabadis. 

[Lioness98]

11 minutes ago, Rsingh1978 said:

The Huddersfield grooming gang were all Faisalabadis. 

Also, the Oxford gangs were 100% Faisalabadis. 

I don't know why that guy is obsessed with trying to prove central Pakistani Punjabis are different from the north Punjabis or Mirpuris. They're the same people in every way.

[proactive]

5 hours ago, Rsingh1978 said:

The Huddersfield grooming gang were all Faisalabadis. 

That should come as a shock for that Jagsaw guy who was here a few years chatting shite about how all the former Doaba Muslims who migrated to Lyallpur in 1947 are such great people. 

[Lioness98]

11 hours ago, proactive said:

That should come as a shock for that Jagsaw guy who was here a few years chatting shite about how all the former Doaba Muslims who migrated to Lyallpur in 1947 are such great people. 

Doaba/east Punjabi Muslims hate Sikhs more than anyone else. Why would a Doaba Muslim of all people favour Sikhs given what occurred in 1947? Some apne really do say things without critical thinking. No common sense.

[Premi5]

This one looks 'Panjabi' to me

https://www.lancs.live/news/uk-world-news/rapist-who-abused-vulnerable-teenage-23218520

@Lioness98

Wonder why it took so long for prison

"In November 2017 officers executed a warrant at Saleem's address and uncovered a number of indecent images and videos of children, including images of the victim that he had taken"

Rapist who abused vulnerable teenage girls 'in the worst ways' is jailed

Mohammed Saleem abused one of his victims over a period of 17 years

 

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By

Amy FentonSenior reporter

• 14:49, 25 FEB 2022

 

 

A man who groomed and abused two teenage girls after plying them with alcohol has been jailed for 33 years.

Mohammed Saleem has today (February 25) been jailed at Manchester Minshull Street Crown Court following a six week trial in which he was found guilty of 31 offences.

 

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The 47-year-old, of Cannon Street in Rochdale, was convicted of six counts of indecent assault against a 14-year-old female, rape of a 14-year-old female, three counts of rape of a 14/15-year-old female, indecent assault against a 15-year-old female, assault occasioning actual bodily harm, nine counts of rape of a female, assault by penetration, three counts of rape of a female under 16 years, two counts of voyeurism, sexual assault, securing unauthorised access to computer material and two counts of making indecent images of a child.

The charges relate to the non-recent exploitation, rape, indecent assault and domestic abuse of two teenage girls in Rochdale, which continued for 17 years for one of the victims.

The court heard how Saleem groomed the two teenage girls in the late 1990's and would regularly ply them with alcohol and cannabis before this progressed to having sex with both of them.

 

Over the next 17 years Saleem, who was married and had children at the time, then repeatedly abused one of the girls both sexually, physically and mentally, in an attempt to control every aspect of her life.

Across the years her mental health deteriorated significantly and she did manage to escape Saleem's grips and live independently but he would always manage to get back into her life and monitor and control her.

In November 2017 officers executed a warrant at Saleem's address and uncovered a number of indecent images and videos of children, including images of the victim that he had taken. It was also revealed that Saleem had installed spying software on the victims computer without her knowledge in order to monitor her internet activity, personal data and emails.

Detective Constable Sarah Hayfield of GMP's Rochdale district, said: "The victims in this case were abused in the worst ways possible. This man preyed on their vulnerabilities as young girls and exploited them for his own sickening pleasure. He then went onto control and abuse one of the victims for 17 years.

"This was a horrific ordeal that has no doubt left a damaging and haunting impact on those lives affected. I want to extend my thanks and gratitude to these two brave women and their families for their support and strength throughout this investigation. Their resilience has been instrumental in ensuring we could secure this custodial sentence and, although I have no doubt this will stay with them for the rest of their lives, I hope today will help bring some form of closure.

 

"I also extend my thanks to our partners at Rochdale Borough Council, particularly their adult care recovery and re-enablement team, who have both supported the investigation and been instrumental in providing the victims with the care and support they need whilst we investigated Saleem.

"I hope this sentencing sends a clear message that child sexual exploitation and domestic abuse is abhorrent and will never be acceptable and through our joint working with the council on child sexual abuse we will ensure anyone who engages in this type of vile behaviour will be brought to justice, as we have seen today."

 

[Lioness98]

Yes, most Pakistanis in Rochdale are Pakistani Punjabis. Sajid Javid is originally from there too.

 

33 years - I'm shocked - the judges rarely hand out lengthy sentences to pedos.