Did krishan use deceit in killing this warrior?

[shastarSingh]

Just before the 'kharag Singh judh' section of krishan avtar in Dasam Granth Sahib, krishan has a war with a warrior called krata singh

Did krishan use deceit in killing this warrior?

https://www.sikhitothemax.org/ang?source=D&ang=434

mwrhu nwih kihXo su shI muir kY Air pwCy kI Eir inhwirE ]

maarahu naeh kahiyo su sahee mur kai ar paachhe kee or nihaario ||

The war continued throughout the day, then Krishna devised a method. He said, “I am not killing you,” and saying this, when the enemy looked behind,

 

 

 

 

AYsy hI qICn lY Ais sRI hir sqR kI gRIv ky aUpr JwirE ]

aaise hee teechhan lai as sree har satr kee greev ke uoopar jhaario ||

 

 

 

 

 

AYsI ey Bwiq hinE irpu kau Apny dl ko sB qRws invwirXo ]1368]

aaisee e bhaat hanio rip kau apane dhal ko sabh traas nivaariyo ||1368||

He very quickly at that very instant, struck a blow on the neck of the enemy with his sharp sword and in this way, killing the enemy, removed the fear of his army.1368.

[shastarSingh]

Dallysingh veerji???

[dallysingh101]

46 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Dallysingh veerji???

Bhai ji why isn't the Gurmukhi text up? I don't fully trust translations, and can't make sense of transliterations. 

[shastarSingh]

17 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Bhai ji why isn't the Gurmukhi text up? I don't fully trust translations, and can't make sense of transliterations. 

I posted the link as well

https://www.sikhitothemax.org/ang?source=D&ang=434

[dallysingh101]

On 1/19/2022 at 7:27 PM, shastarSingh said:

I posted the link as well

https://www.sikhitothemax.org/ang?source=D&ang=434

Let me reflect on this. We really need to get the panth's Braj Bhasha knowledge up for such things.

Though, I'll say outright right now, I'm not sure if the Chaubis Avtaar narratives of Dasam Granth are purely didactic, with the avtaars playing some moral/ethical role models. If I recall rightly, Lord Rama had Ravan's sister's nose chopped off, just because she fancied him!! lol

If that's the case, it would justify any attacks by Ravan in my eyes. Turning the whole narrative around. 

[shastarSingh]

23 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Let me reflect on this. We really need to get the panth's Braj Bhasha knowledge up for such things.

Though, I'll say outright right now, I not sure if the Chaubis Avtaar narratives of Dasam Granth are purely didactic, with the avtaars playing some moral/ethical role models. If I recall rightly, Lord Rama had Ravan's sister's nose chopped off, just because she fancied him!! lol

If that's the case, it would justify any attacks by Ravan in my eyes. Turning the whole narrative around. 

It was ram's brother laxman who chopped the nose of Ravan's sister.

 

Anyways back to the topic, krishan says to krata Singh that he won't kill him. When krata Singh looks behind, krishan kills him.

Am I right?

[dallysingh101]

1 minute ago, shastarSingh said:

It was ram's brother laxman who chopped the nose of Ravan's sister.

 

Anyways back to the topic, krishan says to krata Singh that he won't kill him. When krata Singh looks behind, krishan kills him.

Am I write ?

I'll try and look into the wording but I'm no Braj expert. You'll probably have a better understanding? Some of these translations are a bit dubious

[shastarSingh]

25 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I'll try and look into the wording but I'm no Braj expert. You'll probably have a better understanding? Some of these translations are a bit dubious

We hv Punjabi translation as well.

I think krishan used deceit and lied to kritasatr(not krata) Singh.

https://www.searchgurbani.com

Page 792 of Dasam Granth Sahib

[GurjantGnostic]

5 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

We hv Punjabi translation as well.

I think krishan used deceit and lied to kritasatr(not krata) Singh.

https://www.searchgurbani.com

Page 792 of Dasam Granth Sahib

What's that behind you?!

Thunk 

Lol

 

 

[dallysingh101]

@shastarSingh

Are you sure the person killed is Krata SIngh and not ਕਠਿਨ ਸਿੰਘ? 

The previous dorha introduces ਕਠਿਨ ਸਿੰਘ.