Popular Post dallysingh101 6,976 Posted January 23 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 23 @shastarSingh Veer ji, do you know anything about this granth? THE HITOPADESA OR BOOK OF GOOD COUNCIL, A SIKH BOOK OF FABLES, SIGNED BY PANDIT DIYA RAM, NORTH INDIA, PUNJAB, LUDHIANA, DATED 1280 AH/1864 AD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitopadesha 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dallysingh101 6,976 Posted January 23 Author Report Share Posted January 23 LAKKHAN RAI, son of Bik Chand, a Changra Rajput of Una, now a district town of Himachal Pradesh, embraced Sikhism during the time of Guru Tegh Bahadur (1621-75), and was later counted, along with his brother Bhoj Raj, among the poets and scholars patronized by Guru Gobind Singh. The only work of Lakkhan Rai that has come down to us is a translation in Hindi verse of the Sanskrit classic, Hitopadesa, completed in 1737 Bk/AD 1680. This is the earliest extant work by any of Guru Gobind Singh`s poets and scholars. References : 1. Padam, Piara Singh, Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji de Darbari Ratan. Paliala, 1976 https://www.thesikhencyclopedia.com/biographical/hindu-bhagats-and-poets-and-punjabi-officials/lakkhan-rai/ 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post shastarSingh 3,469 Posted January 23 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 23 23 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said: @shastarSingh Veer ji, do you know anything about this granth? THE HITOPADESA OR BOOK OF GOOD COUNCIL, A SIKH BOOK OF FABLES, SIGNED BY PANDIT DIYA RAM, NORTH INDIA, PUNJAB, LUDHIANA, DATED 1280 AH/1864 AD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitopadesha No veerji Heard for the first time 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dallysingh101 6,976 Posted January 23 Author Report Share Posted January 23 From Piara SIngh Padam's book, Darbari Rattan: 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post shastarSingh 3,469 Posted January 23 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, dallysingh101 said: @shastarSingh Veer ji, do you know anything about this granth? THE HITOPADESA OR BOOK OF GOOD COUNCIL, A SIKH BOOK OF FABLES, SIGNED BY PANDIT DIYA RAM, NORTH INDIA, PUNJAB, LUDHIANA, DATED 1280 AH/1864 AD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitopadesha Looks very interesting piece of literature. Shud be brought to print. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dallysingh101 6,976 Posted January 23 Author Report Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, shastarSingh said: Looks very interesting piece of literature. Shud be brought to print. http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00litlinks/hitopadesha_arnold/index.html The english used in the above is very antiquated now. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post shastarSingh 3,469 Posted January 24 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 24 18 hours ago, dallysingh101 said: http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00litlinks/hitopadesha_arnold/index.html The english used in the above is very antiquated now. I was talking about the brij bhasha work of lakhan rai. It shud be brougjt in print. It shud be studied just as taksali students study saruktavali, vairag shatak, parbodh Chander natak etc. May be a steek shud be prepared for general sikh audience. Short stories with morals are a simple way and entertaining way of studying wisdom.( not necessarily agreeing to all the wisdom.) 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dallysingh101 6,976 Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 Just now, shastarSingh said: I was talking about the brij bhasha work of lakhan raj. It shud be brougjt in print. It shud be studied just as taksali students study saruktavali, vairag shatak, parbodh Chander natak etc. May be a steek shud be prepared for general sikh audience. Short stories with morals are a simple way and entertaining way of studying wisdom.( not necessarily agreeing to all the wisdom.) I agree. Note how it also seems to be the earliest work dasmesh pita commissioned too. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shastarSingh 3,469 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 23 hours ago, dallysingh101 said: I agree. Note how it also seems to be the earliest work dasmesh pita commissioned too. Veerji How can we bring this great brij bhasha work in print? Where are it's manuscripts ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dallysingh101 6,976 Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 22 hours ago, shastarSingh said: Veerji How can we bring this great brij bhasha work in print? Where are it's manuscripts ? Bhasha Vibhaag Library in Patiala should know. Look at the footnote in the first page of the Darbari Rattan extract I posted bhai ji. It even gives a manuscript number. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post shastarSingh 3,469 Posted January 26 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said: Bhasha Vibhaag Library in Patiala should know. Look at the footnote in the first page of the Darbari Rattan extract I posted bhai ji. It even gives a manuscript number. I will contact Panjab digital library if they could digitalize it? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dallysingh101 6,976 Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 7 minutes ago, shastarSingh said: I will contact Panjab digital library if they could digitalize it? Great idea!!!!! I think it might be in Devnagri script though, judging by the manuscript name? I think translating/transcribing such things, and Brij Bhasha texts is where skilled talented Hindu converts might be really useful? Like Prof. Sahib Singh? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shastarSingh 3,469 Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said: Great idea!!!!! I think it might be in Devnagri script though, judging by the manuscript name? I think translating/transcribing such things, and Brij Bhasha texts is where skilled talented Hindu converts might be really useful? Like Prof. Sahib Singh? We don't need Hindu converts. We hv great vidvaans in our taksals. We also hv nirmalas who are vidvaans in Sanskrit too. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dallysingh101 6,976 Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, shastarSingh said: We don't need Hindu converts. We hv great vidvaans in our taksals. We also hv nirmalas who are vidvaans in Sanskrit too. Have you gone pagal veer ji? lol You are the main guy promoting jaat hindu converts to Sikhi? But I do get your point. But I don't think knowledge of Braj Bhasha is that tukraa in Taksaal maybe (or even the panth at this stage?) I spoke with one Taksaali gyani and he told me that they read Panjabi translations of Braj works, like Suraj Prakash? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post shastarSingh 3,469 Posted January 26 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 26 12 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said: Have you gone pagal veer ji? lol You are the main guy promoting jaat hindu converts to Sikhi? But I do get your point. But I don't think knowledge of Braj Bhasha is that tukraa in Taksaal maybe (or even the panth at this stage?) I spoke with one Taksaali gyani and he told me that they read Panjabi translations of Braj works, like Suraj Prakash? I mean we don't need converts for the sake of doing translations. Gyanis in a taksal hv levels. The ones at the top level hv lots of vidya. They can easily understand braj bhasha. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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