Ukraine-Russia crisis

[MisterrSingh]

1 minute ago, proudkaur21 said:

So they destroy nations by getting into positions of power or what?

It's not as black and white as that. In previous times they preferred to be the unseen hand behind the "throne" while they pulled the strings of the non-Jew who was their public front. It's easy to blame Jews, but most of what's happened on this planet would never have happened if non-Jews hadn't sold out their fellow man to them.

Like I said, their history is so storied and multi-faceted. They've managed to overcome some amazingly harsh episodes in their existence. It's easy to slip into "The Evil Jew" narrative, but that's not the entire story. BUT in this current stage of human history, they are in TOTAL control. But we can't talk about it because it's anti-Semitic to notice things.

[proudkaur21]

2 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

It's not as black and white as that. In previous times they preferred to be the unseen hand behind the "throne" while they pulled the strings of the non-Jew who was their public front. It's easy to blame Jews, but most of what's happened on this planet would never have happened if non-Jews hadn't sold out their fellow man to them.

Like I said, their history is so storied and multi-faceted. They've managed to overcome some amazingly harsh episodes in their existence. It's easy to slip into "The Evil Jew" narrative, but that's not the entire story. BUT in this current stage of human history, they are in TOTAL control. But we can't talk about it because it's anti-Semitic to notice things.

So what do we do now? Lol

[MisterrSingh]

2 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

How did they end up controlling all the financial institutions? Like how did this happen? Dont they control the central banking system too?

Centuries of progress in a few sentences. This is very generalised. There are exceptions:

• They mostly stuck to their ghettos and communities after the fall of the Roman Empire, generally shunning education and contact with non-Jews. This lead to low levels of education and basically the development of a pendu attitude that made them very backwards.
• A few far-sighted Jews realised this wasn't good for them, and decided to lobby various influential kings and politicians to allow them the opportunity to get educated (because Christianity had made Jews the enemy by emphasising their involvement in the death of Christ). Napoleon of France was one of the first Europeans who opened the doors to them per se.
• Jews began entering the professional classes (universities, etc) but discrimination remained. They persisted and gradually climbed the social ladder.
• In the Middle Ages, they gravitated towards mercantile activities; money lending became something a few influential Jewish families specialised in. European kings were involved in wars against each other for centuries. They needed more money to carry on these wars. Jewish money lenders gave them loans for their wars, which meant the Jewish money lender effectively owned the king / government he was lending to. That is true power. When the government or king had to repay the loan, the total was sometimes more than the GDP of the nation.
• Fast forward... blah, blah, blah, academia becomes their preserve. When you control education, you control Thought.

[MisterrSingh]

9 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

So what do we do now? Lol

"We do?" What do you want to do? Gather an army and ride to Jerusalem, lmao?

There's no doing nothing. The only reason humanity isn't destroyed is because there's still a few drops of blood remaining to squeeze from humanity.

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

I don't think that's accurate at all. The government doesn't bend to any random gora on the street on important civilisational matters. Small, regional nonsense to generate headlines, PERHAPS, but the Big Stuff? Not a chance.

Corporations, lobbies, billionaires are the ones who have the ears of government. Pete the Plumber can't do jack5hit but stew on the sidelines. That's the 70s and 80s vibe you're struggling to relinquish.

Are there goreh who've buried their racism but resent the country they see around them? Of course. Even the government doesn't actually possess the kind of power you're alluding to.

 

I think you're one of that generation that grew up in the post 90s period of stability. You're not seeing what's under your nose. You might see events of a few decades ago as some past gone era, but history shows us that these things seem to come and go in cycles. Those racist people of recent times never disappeared or all changed their worldview, they just went underground, and many are in relative positions of power at ground level. They also made sure they indoctrinated a lot of their younger people (i.e. their families and work colleagues) with their views, and taught them to be covert about it. 

I agree that the top down influence of 'Corporations, lobbies, billionaires' are largely influential but bear in mind that ground level (mostly working class) voting brought about Brexit, despite most corporations etc. wanting to keep the existing arrangement (mainly down to cheap skilled and unskilled labour). 

Notice the rejection of 'multiculturalism' and pervasive anti-immigrant feeling throughout a lot of the western world. This is indicative of a deeper current through society. 

As someone from a Sikh background who's descended from a ground level movement yourself, I'm surprised at how you don't realise how influential these things can be. It's no coincidence that  whenever Boris is in some form of trouble he dresses up like this:

No one is saying that the (for now) quiet, covert racists will definitely get their way, but their intent is clear. And they can and do (obviously!) have an influence on society and politics (bottom upwards).

You sound like someone deluded to all this, which is understandable because of when you grew up. But you have to remember, the old school still have a lot of sway here. Other communities aren't as dishevelled and fragmented as much as our lot. Plus, you're very ignorantly ignoring what your own people with experience have to say about the matter. Remember who were around last time the neo-nazis got clamped down on. The way you talk is like their knowledge and experiences amount to nothing. That's ignorant to the extreme. They aren't all outdated people who don't know the world around them, on the contrary they have infinitely more world experience than the closeted millennial generation.   Be careful of detaching the world you see around you now and what you grew up in, from what immediately preceded it. That's foolish. 

[proudkaur21]

3 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I think you're one of that generation that grew up in the post 90s period of stability. You're not seeing what's under your nose. You might see events of a few decades ago as some past gone era, but history shows us that these things seem to come and go in cycles. Those racist people of recent times never disappeared or all changed their worldview, they just went underground, and many are in relative positions of power at ground level. They also made sure they indoctrinated a lot of their younger people (i.e. their families and work colleagues) with their views, and taught them to be covert about it. 

I agree that the top down influence of 'Corporations, lobbies, billionaires' are largely influential but bear in mind that ground level (mostly working class) voting brought about Brexit, despite most corporations etc. wanting to keep the existing arrangement (mainly down to cheap skilled and unskilled labour). 

Notice the rejection of 'multiculturalism' and pervasive anti-immigrant feeling throughout a lot of the western world. This is indicative of a deeper current through society. 

As someone from a Sikh background who's descended from a ground level movement yourself, I'm surprised at how you don't realise how influential these things can be. It's no coincidence that  whenever Boris is in some form of trouble he dresses up like this:

No one is saying that the (for now) quiet, covert racists will definitely get their way, but their intent is clear. And they can and do (obviously!) have an influence on society and political (bottom upwards).

You sound like someone deluded to all this, which is understandable because of when you grew up. But you have to remember, the old school still have a lot of sway here. Other communities aren't as dishevelled and fragmented as much as our lot. Plus, you're very ignorantly ignoring what your own people with experience have to say about the matter. Remember who were around last time the neo-nazis got clamped down on. The way you talk is like their knowledge and experiences amount to nothing. That's ignorant to the extreme. They aren't all outdated people who don't know the world around the, on the contrary they have infinitely more world experience that the millennial generation.   Be careful of detaching the world you see around you now and what you grew up in, from what immediately preceded it. That's foolish. 

Not gonna lie lol but we dont like biharis coming to punjab so cant really hate on goray for not liking us being in their lands

[dallysingh101]

1 minute ago, proudkaur21 said:

Not gonna lie lol but we dont like biharis coming to punjab so cant really hate on goray for not liking us being in their lands

I don't agree. I think many people actually like biharis being there as cheap labour because it frees them from having work themselves. I can't remember if it was you, or another sister who said, many believe they are above working their lands themselves and believe that these biharis etc. should be doing it whilst they pursue the dream of life in the diaspora.

Plus given anglo Sikh history and how they f**ked our sovereignty up and robbed our wealth for a century,  we aren't in the same position as others. Whether they acknowledge it or not.  Plus I imagine that the future involves reminding them of their past with us, outside of stupid, deferential pro-colonial era pandering to a sepoy identity, which has been going on thus far.  

[Redoptics]

Think WB have come out with best solution,  you know what Russia no Batman for you lol Jokes aside think hitting their economy is the best bet, also watched on the news they are already building a human rights case with the civilians being targeted 

[proudkaur21]

Just now, dallysingh101 said:

I don't agree. I think many people actually like biharis being there as cheap labour because it frees them from having work themselves. I can't remember if it was you, or another sister who said, many believe they are above working their lands themselves and believe that these biharis etc. should be doing it whilst they pursue the dream of life in the diaspora.

Plus given anglo Sikh history and how they f**ked our sovereignty up and robbed our wealth for a century,  we aren't in the same position as others. Whether they acknowledge it or not.  Plus I imagine that the future involves reminding them of their past with us, outside of stupid, deferential pro-colonial era pandering to a sepoy identity, which has been going on thus far.  

Naah I think the issue is alot of them have anti Sikh sentiments and cause problems for sikhs in punjab. Also if they were sikh most of us would have no problem. We have only one land and loosing majority there due to hindu migrants moving in is somthing alot of sikhs dont like. 

 

[dallysingh101]

14 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Think WB have come out with best solution,  you know what Russia no Batman for you lol Jokes aside think hitting their economy is the best bet, also watched on the news they are already building a human rights case with the civilians being targeted 

No one is saying Russia is Batman, but the reality is that if the west is embroiled in dealing with them, it gives other developing nations breathing space from the neo-colonialism they pursue there, and might be good chance to come from under it. This is how politics is played.  

Plus a west on the defensive gives leverage to others they would otherwise openly treat with contempt as a lesser species. Are these simple rajniti things that complicated for some of you to grasp?