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6 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

But this was after 84 right not before 84...these claims they were getting k*illed in 70s 80s due to khrakoos whats the truth behind that? They are dramatically exaggerate their numbers 

This is quite a long thread but really well explained I've just inserted some tweets on numbers but if you can pls go thru it ...its seem valid if they found 30000 (or however many they claim) hindus dead how would they not find their bodies, their ids etc...

 

The real anti-Hindu violence was after 1984, prior to 1984 the Hindus who were killed and for which action the Kharkoos took credit were anti-Sikh Hindus like Lala Jagat Narain and his son Ramesh Chander. BJP leaders like Harbans Rai Khanna who had vandalised the model of Harmandir Sahib at Amritsar railway station. There were killing on buses but unknown organisations like Dasmesh regiment too credit for it and it is likely these killings were by Indian agencies. 

Bluestar was justified by the Indian government and Indian media by using the excuse that Sikhs were intent on driving Hindus out of Punjab and force Sikhs from outside Punjab to move to Punjab. Even though none of this was the case pre-1984, it became a self fulfilling prophecy because when Sikhs started the migrate to Punjab after 1984 genocide, then Kharkoos would have been less interested in keeping Hindus in the villages of Punjab.

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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

I think a lot of Sikhs have the utmost respect for Bhagat Singh regardless of this.  

To be honest the average Sikh has no idea what Bhagat Singh's ideology was or what his struggle was. They just know he was hanged by the British for fighting for independence. This is about the sum total of their knowledge. The comrades are more knowledgeable in that they know that he was an atheist, he wanted Sikhs to give up Punjabi and he wanted Hindi to the language of India and even wrote an essay on it when he was younger and he never revised his opinion. He had links to Arya Samaj,  he shot the wrong British police officer who he thought had beaten Lala Lajpat Rai with a lathi resulting in his death. In fact it is commonly believed the Lala died of a heart attack soon after the attack. Lala Lajpat Rai was a top Arya Samaj leader. Bhagat Singh also shot a Sikh constable Chanan Singh who attempted to apprehend Bhagat Singh when he shot the British police officer. The comrades never want a debate on Bhagat Singh and his ideology because they know that if the truth of Bhagat Singh's ideology comes out then he will lose mass support among common Sikhs. 

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On 3/25/2022 at 5:17 PM, proactive said:

To be honest the average Sikh has no idea what Bhagat Singh's ideology was or what his struggle was. They just know he was hanged by the British for fighting for independence. This is about the sum total of their knowledge. The comrades are more knowledgeable in that they know that he was an atheist, he wanted Sikhs to give up Punjabi and he wanted Hindi to the language of India and even wrote an essay on it when he was younger and he never revised his opinion. He had links to Arya Samaj,  he shot the wrong British police officer who he thought had beaten Lala Lajpat Rai with a lathi resulting in his death. In fact it is commonly believed the Lala died of a heart attack soon after the attack. Lala Lajpat Rai was a top Arya Samaj leader. Bhagat Singh also shot a Sikh constable Chanan Singh who attempted to apprehend Bhagat Singh when he shot the British police officer. The comrades never want a debate on Bhagat Singh and his ideology because they know that if the truth of Bhagat Singh's ideology comes out then he will lose mass support among common Sikhs. 

 

Bhagat Singh will never lose support among common Sikhs for any reason.

Common Sikhs (over 99% of whom are monay nowadays) like Bhagat Singh because he was a mona. So whenever some "extremist baba" tells them they should keep their kesh they can point to Bhagat Singh and say "How dare you say that! Don't you know that many of our shaheeds were monay?!"

 

Bhagat Singh was propped up as a hero first by the Indian establishment because he represented the ideal "Sikh hero" (one who had disowned Sikhi in ever way possible and valued country rather than religion).

Bhagat Singh was subsequently propped up as a hero by mona "Sikhs" for the reasons I mentioned.

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On 3/25/2022 at 4:45 PM, Kau89r8 said:

The political atmosphere is Punjab is heating up. The fact that AAP won has added to the sense that anything is possible now. The SGPC has stated to act very Panthic now but not amount of pro-Panth statements will stop them from suffering the same fate as their master Badal. 

The attempt to reignite the Kisan andolan is interesting, one of their demands is to withdraw the history books which present Sikh history and Sikh Gurus in a poor light. I say Interesting because the leaders now understand that an andolan has to have support from the Panth otherwise it fail before it has even started.

The youth especially have been getting more politically engaged, the fact that Kultar Singh Sadhwan the Punjab speaker who incidentally is the grandson of Giani Zail Singh apologised so quickly to the Akal Takht Jathedar after a video of him undergoing a ceremony where a Bahman waved a cow's tail on his turban shows that he understands that excuses that were used before that politicians need to keep all sections of society happy won't wash anymore.

The Delhi based Giani who presented a Siropa to Modi when he met 'sikhs' along with MS Sirsa was stopped from doing Katha at a gurdwara in Sohana in Punjab. The Sangat did not confront him or physically stop him in the presence of Guru Granth Sahib, they started to do Naam Jaap as soon as he started his katha. The Naam Jaap went on for a few minutes and ended with a jaikara. Then a member of the Sangat said that those who give siropas to Modi will not be allowed to do katha at the Gurdwara. The Giani seeing that he would not be able to do katha, left the stage although he was later confronted by some youths when he was starting to leave the Gurdwara premises. 

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