Some home truths for Ravi Singh Khalsa Aid

[Saba]

Sarbhat da bhalla

[MisterrSingh]

Good video. The gaalaa are a bonus.

Change is only really going to arrive when the people who actually live in the affected places speak up in this way.

[proactive]

4 minutes ago, Saba said:

Sarbhat da bhalla

It's actually Sarbat Da Bhalla. It's about wanting the best for everyone, it's not about letting your own people live in poverty while spending Dawandh which was always only for Panthic issues on others. 

[Saba]

We are all children of the same Lord no matter what colour, land or religion we profess to live by. 
 

[ChardikalaUK]

2 hours ago, Saba said:

We are all children of the same Lord no matter what colour, land or religion we profess to live by. 
 

Yes but people take advantage of our generosity, it can't all be one way traffic.

[SinghPunjabSingh]

7 hours ago, Saba said:

We are all children of the same Lord no matter what colour, land or religion we profess to live by. 
 

You are absolutely correct. Gurbani and the Sikh ethos (Ardas) and motto of "Sarbat da Bhala" emphasise that.

However, if there is a choice between innocent human beings dying and feeding people like Anders Breivik or other Nazi's or people who support the enslavement of Africans or other non-Muslims and non-Christians or discriminating against human beings on the basis of their so-called "caste" then we cannot distribute limited funds equally amongst all.

As billionaires and millionaires and their proxies do not need Sikhs from the West to supply them pizza's, Qurans and Bibles when you have poor children in Punjab, throughout India and in sub-Saharan Africa getting no support (where the West and the Arabs care do not care two hoots if those particular non-believers die).

The more we help uplift poor Sikhs today the more of a genuine future fauj there can be to do meaningful Sarbat da Bhala in the future. We should focus on Punjab, India + sub-saharan Africa rather than Europe + Middle East.

 

[proudkaur21]

24 minutes ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

You are absolutely correct. Gurbani and the Sikh ethos (Ardas) and motto of "Sarbat da Bhalla" emphasise that.

However, if there is a choice between innocent human beings dying and feeding people like Anders Breivik or other Nazi's or people who support the enslavement of Africans or other non-Muslims and non-Christians or discriminating against human beings on the basis of their so-called "caste" then we cannot distribute limited funds equally amongst all.

As billionaires and millionaires and their proxies do not need Sikhs from the West to supply them pizza's, Qurans and Bibles when you have poor children in Punjab, throughout India and in sub-Saharan Africa getting no support (where the West and the Arabs care do not care two hoots if those particular non-believers die).

The more we help uplift poor Sikhs today the more of a genuine future fauj there can be to do meaningful Sarbat da Bhalla in the future. We should focus on Punjab, India + sub-saharan Africa rather than Europe + Middle East.

 

Sub-Saharan Africa unfortunately is a gone case due to Christianity and Islam. I'd rather focus on India and on dharmic people. Abrahamic areas are a gone case. These Abrahamics already have Africa in a grip and have way more funds than us. Also we need to make people be able to sustain themselves. By just constantly giving free food does not work. How long will you keep giving free food and funds? Christian missionaries do that in Africa already and idk how much their condition has improved? Because the people need to be able to sustain themselves else their condition will not improve.

[SinghPunjabSingh]

5 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

Sub-Saharan Africa unfortunately is a gone case due to Christianity and Islam. I'd rather focus on India and on dharmic people. Abrahamic areas are a gone case. These Abrahamics already have Africa in a grip and have way more funds than us. Also we need to make people be able to sustain themselves. By just constantly giving free food does not work. How long will you keep giving free food and funds? Christian missionaries do that in Africa already and idk how much their condition has improved? Because the people need to be able to sustain themselves else their condition will not improve.

I hear you and agree with you to a degree. Certainly, it would be foolhardy for us to throw funds at places like Somalia. However, the 15million orphans in sub-Saharan Africa in countries where Sikhs are not despised as non-believers heading to hell can certainly benefit from educational assistance to set up schools, access to clean water and simple eye clinics. The future population of Africa is 2.5 Billion by the year 2050 and projected to be over 4 Billion plus by the year 2100.

Punjabi's have had the truth of Sikhi before them for 500years and yet only 10% of the historical Punjab population (Pakistani Punjab, east Punjab, Haryana and Himachal) is Sikh today. However, if between 1 to 10% of gareeb Africans came to understand and relate to Sikhi as the only faith that opposes Slavery and discrimination then that could be a game changer to put Sikhi on the global map within the next 28 years.

But no doubt about it the poorer sections of the so-called 1.1billion Hindu demographic in India today (as defined by Hindutva thinkers) is the likely number one source of new (primarily sehajdhari) Sikhs for the next 20years. Only when we have tens of millions of new sehajdhari Sikhs can Amritdhari diamonds arise to create a new and revitalised (primarily non-Punjabi) Khalsa Panth (as we as Punjabi's have failed dismally to propagate Sikhi forward in the last 100years).

Of course before all that, we have to ensure that Muslims, Christians, Derawadi's (Hindutva proxies) and Manuwadi's (Hindutva castesists) do not jointly leave Sikhs as a minority in east Punjab by the 2031 census.

Sikhs were 5% of the Punjabi population around the year 1800 and we were a minority in all districts of Punjab in 1947 when our numbers had risen to 13% of all Punjabi's, so we are used to being a minority.

But now it is time for Ekta within the Panth and for us to drop labels and hypenated identities and ensure only one united Gurdwara per pind and locality in the West and educate outsiders as to why Sikhi is the solution to all their problems (and globally) and why they should also be part of the Sikh Panth. When Sikhs get to 100million strong that will be when we can truly do Sarbat da Bhala.

[proactive]

1 hour ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

I hear you and agree with you to a degree. Certainly, it would be foolhardy for us to throw funds at places like Somalia. However, the 15million orphans in sub-Saharan Africa in countries where Sikhs are not despised as non-believers heading to hell can certainly benefit from educational assistance to set up schools, access to clean water and simple eye clinics. The future population of Africa is 2.5 Billion by the year 2050 and projected to be over 4 Billion plus by the year 2100.

Punjabi's have had the truth of Sikhi before them for 500years and yet only 10% of the historical Punjab population (Pakistani Punjab, east Punjab, Haryana and Himachal) is Sikh today. However, if between 1 to 10% of gareeb Africans came to understand and relate to Sikhi as the only faith that opposes Slavery and discrimination then that could be a game changer to put Sikhi on the global map within the next 28 years.

But no doubt about it the poorer sections of the so-called 1.1billion Hindu demographic in India today (as defined by Hindutva thinkers) is the likely number one source of new (primarily sehajdhari) Sikhs for the next 20years. Only when we have tens of millions of new sehajdhari Sikhs can Amritdhari diamonds arise to create a new and revitalised (primarily non-Punjabi) Khalsa Panth arise (as we as Punjabi's have failed dismally to propagate Sikhi forward in the last 100years).

Of course before all that, we have to ensure that Muslims, Christians, Derawadi's (Hindutva proxies) and Manuwadi's (Hindutva castesists) do not jointly leave Sikhs as a minority in east Punjab by the 2031 census.

Sikhs were 5% of the Punjabi population around the year 1800 and we were a minority in all districts of Punjab in 1947 when our numbers had risen to 13% of all Punjabi's, so we are used to being a minority.

But now it is time for Ekta within the Panth and for us to drop labels and hypenated identities and ensure only one united Gurdwara per pind and locality in the West and educate outsiders as to why Sikhi is the solution to all their problems (and globally) and why they should also be part of the Sikh Panth. When Sikhs get to 100million strong that will be when we can truly do Sarbat da Bhala.

We need to be much more selective and understand that we as a small community cannot afford to spend our resources in creating small Sikh communities in say places like Sub-Saharan Africa which will take over 10 x the resources to sustain and assist when it is cheaper and more cost effective to create a community in the states bordering Punjab. We have the example of the Afghani Sikhs, who have been ethnically cleansed from Afghanistan and whose migration to the west has taken up so much effort of Sikhs in the west and that just to save a small community of around 1000 now. The same could be the case if we create small communities in anywhere close to the Islamic world. It is much more cost effective and in the long run strategically beneficial if these communities are as close as possible to Punjab where assistance to them does not entail expensive logistics.

Below is one such success story, made all the easier because his mother tongue makes it much more easier for him to understand Gurbani, he has access to local Gurdwaras which have been there for centuries, he can travel quite easily to Harmandir Sahib, he can make links with other Sikhs in his locality and be a part of the Sangat and Sikhi will grow in his family and locality. It is though him and others like him that Sikhi will truly expand beyond from our Punjabi base. 

 

 

[PuzzledToo]

2 hours ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

Only when we have tens of millions of new sehajdhari Sikhs can Amritdhari diamonds arise to create a new and revitalised (primarily non-Punjabi) Khalsa Panth arise (as we as Punjabi's have failed dismally to propagate Sikhi forward in the last 100years).

 

And why is that? Could it be that the Punjabi community faced multiple genocides in the past century? Could it be that the powers that be are still attacking Punjabis in every manner they can? Just thinking out aloud.