Some home truths for Ravi Singh Khalsa Aid

[californiasardar1]

1 hour ago, proactive said:

Let me refresh your memory, You wrote  Khalsa Aid by being a charity that helps all and not just Sikhs is likely to get more donations because non-Sikhs will also donate to it and thus it will have more money at hand with which to possibly help Sikhs than if it was solely a Sikh charity which would restrict its donations to just Sikhs. I showed that they get the vast majority of donations from Sikhs ONLY anyway (98% in 2017) so your contention is false and I have shown clearly it is false.

What Ravi Singh has successfully done is subvert both the concept of Langar and the concept of Daswand. Our community in the early 2000s instead of challenging him allowed the subversion and now the next generation do not even realise what Langar and Daswand is. 

 

 

Pasted below is exactly what I wrote. Please point to where I said anything about "non-Sikhs" donating.

 

"The criticism of Ravi Singh is ridiculous.

Here is why:

If he devoted 100% of his charitable efforts to Sikh causes, Khalsa Aid would bring in only a small fraction of what it does in donations. More people are likely to donate to a charity that presents itself as serving all kinds of people all over the globe.

So basically, Ravi Singh spending X% of whatever Khalsa Aid brings in right now probably ends up being more than if Ravi Singh spent 100% of what would be a MUCH smaller pot of donations on Sikh issues."

[SinghPunjabSingh]

10 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

 many Sikh individuals/organizations are more likely to donate to a charity that presents itself as one with a global outlook interested in assisted all kinds of different people than they are to a charity that is entirely focused on Sikh related issues.

In fact, I would guess that Sikhs who are well off and have money to spare are especially more likely to donate to a Sikh organization with a "global" outlook than to a Sikh organization focused on Sikh issues.

I think the main issue is not so much against the Sarbat da Bhala concept.

It is more to do with why Khalsa Aid are spending charitable donations from their 98% Sikh donors upon giving Qurans (and Bibles) to children!? So two books which openly advocate Slavery and Genocide against non-believers are being distributed by a supposed "Sikh" charity receiving their donations from 98% Sikh donors.

It's beyond bizarre and madness in the extreme.

And if they do insist on allocating only 15% of funds to assist Sikhs and 85% to assist non-Sikhs then surely they could be more judicious in using their funds allocated for non-Punjabi's to assist children in the areas where our Panj Piare came from outside Punjab or black African children in sub-Saharan Africa who the Christian and Muslim Slavemasters could care less about rather than continually prioritizing white skinned Arabs (who are already assisted by 50 plus Muslim majority countries) or well fed Europeans (who the NATO countries are already financially supporting).

Ravi Singh is a good Sikh at heart but he needs to think and reflect on what is a sensible course of action re sewa.

[MisterrSingh]

7 hours ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

Ravi Singh is a good Sikh at heart but he needs to think and reflect on what is a sensible course of action re sewa.

The philosophy on which he bases his charity work is inconsistent at best. It panders to a particular minority that doesn't require "Khalsa aid" because the Ummah is more than capable of providing for its own, which leads me to suspect the whole thing is either an ill-conceived vanity project or - allegedly - a high-level money laundering / trafficking operation considering Singh's ties to the British military. Does he Tweet? Is he particularly Left-leaning or apolitical?

[Singh1989]

On 4/4/2022 at 12:39 PM, Premi5 said:

What do you think about Sikh broadcasting channels on Sky in the UK who frequently run appeals/ask for subscriptions, either to 'keep the channel running' or for other purposes such as 'charity/donation' for people requiring medical treatment in Panjab/India? They also do appeals for Sikligars

This one appears on one of these channels regularly, and I can say from personal experience should not be trusted

https://www.worldcancercare.co.in/index-info-kulwantsinghdhaliwal.html

Panjab radio is #1 BIGGEST culprit of this. 

[ipledgeblue]

On 4/8/2022 at 3:12 PM, Singh1989 said:

Panjab radio is #1 BIGGEST culprit of this. 

yes but they give good panthik information on radio. Would be good if there was a different solution, or an alternative platform. In Canada and USA there are punjabi radio stations which do not ask for these kinds of donations/ direct debits / standing orders!

[MisterrSingh]

4 hours ago, Singh1989 said:

Panjab radio is #1 BIGGEST culprit of this. 

20' years of appeals, threatening to shut the station down unless elderly pensioners fill in Direct Debits.

[GurjantGnostic]

8 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

20' years of appeals, threatening to shut the station down unless elderly pensioners fill in Direct Debits.

Sounds like televangelists. 

[Kau89r8]

I hope NOW...KA will re-evaluate and change some priorities of KA being more devoted to SIKH causes even 60% Sikh rest 40% non-related 

They still deserve credit (imo) of what they have done and we shouldn't disregard the +ve things KA have done  but i hope now they have enough money and resources to start prioritizing Sikh issues 1st

@proactive

[superkaur]

Any Sikh who does charity and voluntary work for fellow Sikhs in need has to be admired and may waheguru bless them and their families.

However any Sikh who openly volunteers for communities that openly want to end our very existence or see that we are oppressed as 2nd class citizens due to their backward religious doctrines then those Sikhs clearly are low IQ or ignorant of guru ka langar and "sarbat da bhalla" concept and lack foresight in what they are doing. Clearly buying bibles and qurans for  impoverished  communities around the world is against Sikhi full stop. Sikhs should be propagating Sikhi to these people so that we have new adherents to the faith from diverse backgrounds.

We need to ask why are 1.8 billion muslims only doing charities to help their own yet our low IQ langarjeet dhimmified people want to help that community yet cant not see the suffering of afghan sikhs, pakistani sikhs, kashmiri sikhs, indian sikhs.

A Sikh charity should be just that.... a charity for Sikhs. If a charity is using Sikh names and Sikh iconography yet concentrating majority of their work in helping non-Sikhs at the expense of sikhs in dire need then it has betrayed not only Sikhs but the faith aswell. Therefore Sikhs themselves should boycott such fake and scamming organisations and donate to or create truly Sikh propagation charities only.

Reminds me of the american yogi bhajan 3HO scammers who used Sikh name and icongraphy, dressed up as Sikhs yet openly stated in US court papers they were not Sikhs.

[Kau89r8]

31 minutes ago, superkaur said:

 

We need to ask why are 1.8 billion muslims only doing charities to help their own yet our low IQ langarjeet dhimmified people want to help that community yet cant not see the suffering of afghan sikhs, pakistani sikhs, kashmiri sikhs, indian sikhs.

A Sikh charity should be just that.... a charity for Sikhs. If a charity is using Sikh names and Sikh iconography yet concentrating majority of their work in helping non-Sikhs at the expense of non-sikhs in dire need then it has betrayed not only Sikhs but the faith aswell. Therefore Sikhs themselves should boycott such fake and scamming organisations and donate to or create truly Sikh propagation charities only.

Reminds me of the american yogi bhajan 3HO scammers who used Sikh name and icongraphy, dressed up as Sikhs yet openly stated in US court papers they were not Sikhs.

Ya ...some of us have been asking for years now...

Would give him a benefit of doubt to KA if they start focusing on Sikhs now since they have money and resources but i wont get my hopes too high...