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On 4/7/2022 at 7:20 PM, californiasardar1 said:

Here are some questions for you:

 

Do Sikhs believe in "shrines"?

Do Sikhs believe in pilgrimages?

Is Amritsar a "Holy City"?

Is it important for a Sikh to visit Amritsar?

Is Harmander Sahib the "holiest shrine in the Sikh religion"?

 

 

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Yes

Yes

Yes

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On 4/9/2022 at 1:16 PM, MisterrSingh said:

Where did you learn that from? How does someone who doesn't know of Amritsar's religious significance to Sikhs, suddenly know that keeping uncut hair is a requirement for Sikhs. It's not written in the Guru Granth Sahib aside from some philosophical musing about how adhering to certain rehats at the expense of others is irreligious and hypocritical. So, you've studied rehatnamas (that specify the keeping of unshorn hair), have you? Then why are the original questions in your first post such a mystery to you? What was the reason for posting them?

 

I'd be a lot more sympathetic to your plight if trying to get a straight answer out of you wasn't like trying to nail water to a wall. Cue your response, "I don't need your sympathy." Frig me.

Whatever post-modern Western social philosophies you've filled your head with haven't served you well, have they? The way you rationalise the issues that obviously cause you mental distress by jumping through hoops and shielding the very things and people who deserve your scorn tells me you're very afraid of embracing certain truths.

I don't think you're serious about finding a woman at all. Our Punjabi system of securing partners is fool-proof. Yet every time someone offers you solution, you put up a wall of excuses.

OTHERS: Get married.

YOU: My genes are 5hit.

OTHERS: Exercise and eat well. You'll gain confidence and feel better. That radiates to women.

YOU: No point. They won't change my genes.

OTHERS: You can find an amritdhari wife if you take amrit.

YOU: No point. I'm not "good enough" to be an amritdhari. I'd only disgrace the demographic.

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Ultimately, your keshdhari advocacy rings hollow because you REFUSE to take the next natural step to seal the deal as it were. I know you believe - but you'll never admit on here - that taking amrit is unnecessary to being a Sikh, which is why you put up that wall of pakandh to avoid taking amrit, which is your choice after all. But at least be honest.

That list of questions you posted at the beginning was a "clever" attempt at trying to get people to claim certain things about Sikhi which you could rebut by arguing none of those things are explicitly stated in Sikh scriptures, therefore strengthening your position as to why you don't think amrit is a requirement for a keshdhari.

As much as I agree with you about certain issues on kesh-related matters, I can't take anything you say seriously because of the veiled intent behind your words. You don't argue for kesh philosophically or spiritually, or because it moves you from a religious point of view; you argue for it simply because you're emotionally resentful. There's no substance to it. It rings hollow because you avoid doing the very thing that will aid you in securing the thing you desire most. So we go around in a circle.

 

I already answered your questions. I don't seek to get married and have children. I want this all to end with me.

I didn't set up this thread to try to start a conversation about amrit. You really overthink things sometimes. Not everything is some sort of attempt to be "clever." I wanted to see what people on these forums thought, but you people keep derailing the discussion by bringing up other things.

I don't think taking amrit is unnecessary to being a Sikh. Did I say that? No. Every Sikh should take amrit. Just because I don't do something, that doesn't mean that I am going to dismiss its importance.

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1 minute ago, Redoptics said:

You answered your own question,  they can't even do that, what i ment was read Guru Granth Sahib Ji, understand it, keep kesh, will come along naturally. 

Rather than growing hair for the sake of it, without knowing why. 

 

These people are really into Sikhi though. They post lots of photos of themselves at the Gurdwara, get khanda tattoos etc.

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1 minute ago, californiasardar1 said:

 

These people are really into Sikhi though. They post lots of photos of themselves at the Gurdwara, get khanda tattoos etc.

Posting pics of themselves at the Gudwara and getting tattoo,  does not mean they are into Sikhi this is all falsehood and stroking their ego.

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On 4/7/2022 at 2:20 PM, californiasardar1 said:

Here are some questions for you:

 

Do Sikhs believe in "shrines"?

Do Sikhs believe in pilgrimages?

Is Amritsar a "Holy City"?

Is it important for a Sikh to visit Amritsar?

Is Harmander Sahib the "holiest shrine in the Sikh religion"?

 

 

The Holiest place is Nankana Sahib.

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2 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

From social media i see there is a huge and visible community of Sikh Punjabi community in Cali .. Fresno mainly i believe  The largest Gurudwara in Sant Jose in US right.  I'm sure you can find someone to meet your needs on marriage and on the other hand find Singhs with kes... See more out there keeping Kes than Canada

Exactly there are 150,000 plus Sikhs in California easy which is in excess of the Sikh populations of Australia, London, Himachal Pradesh or Alberta respectively.

Percentage wise there as many Sikhs in California today as there were Sikhs in the UK around 25years ago.

2 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

The Holiest place is Nankana Sahib.

There is no real concept of a Holiest place for Sikhs in the way Muslims pray to a black stone in Mecca. Otherwise why did Sikhs abandon the same to the terrorist state of Pakistan, if so? But in any case, the land of Pakistan is no more holy than east Punjab or the east coast of the States. What matters is our Shabad Guru and Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj which are omnipresent across the planet. So please whatever you do, please don't enrich the Pakistani terrorist regime under the guise of sharda via the pathetic Pakistan yatra! Spend your tourist dollars uplifting our own people in east Punjab instead. Thanks brother!

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