Racism - callout as it is

[Jassu]

3 hours ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

1. Not at all. If anyone attacks a bazurg that violent criminal ought to be severely punished.

2. None whatsoever. Sikhi teaches us to be tyaar bar tyaar and look out for the weak and oppressed and bazurgs.

A. The 50million African American population do not hate us and we need to foster greater links with them.

 

 Ahaha sorry but how do you know that? Do you not understand the general sentiment blacks feel towards Indians? They are VERY racist towards Indians. Look at what this black lady is saying. They are very angry towards people more successful than them. Even East Asians have expressed similar sentiments. Many will never be able to differentiate a Sikh from a Muslim or regular Indian btw. Of course we can try to educate them, but I doubt incidents of racist thought will go down. 

Your THOUGHT PROCESS is VERY HARMFUL TOWARDS our people. We are already suffering severe population decline and having randoms killed due to other groups and going "oh its ok they're just our brothers against white supremacy!!!!" is VERY HARMFUL. Look, it's not East Asians attacking us. It can be linked to more rates of violence in other minorities but like a poster mentioned, they were literally seen at the gurudwara. It was racially motivated. Face it.

 

[Deepthinking22]

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

The facts are the following pertaining to these particular incidents:

1. Sikh elders have been attacked by black criminals.

2. We, as a community, have a right to describe the racial and ethnic background of the attackers. We'd do it if was Muslims, Mexicans, Whites, whatever.

Everything else is f****g fantasy, American-Marxist bull5hit. 

For "Sikh" organisations to GASLIGHT Sikhs in an insidious attempt at extreme political correctness that places us under threat of further harm is f****g EVIL. 

Anyone who tries to "Marxplain" and "Whatabout" their way out of confronting the reality of this problem is not a friend of Sikhs.

Well said!

[Jassu]

Indians, have literally been expelled from multiple African countries for being more successful than the natives. Even in South Africa, during the infamous riots that happened recently, it was mostly Indian shop owners being targetted and not the white majority. 

That says it all.

In western countries, blacks feel resentful for the same reason again. Because Indians and East Asians are more successful than them despite being a minority as well and being there for less time than them. 

[Jassu]

9 hours ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

 

By the way you PMed me to delete all my posts because "blacks will see and be offended and then not be inclined to join Sikhi". Lol, first of all, Gurjant and MANY posters here have posted anti-white rhetoric for numerous years now. If you look at the stats of this website, it is likely that more white people are visiting than black people. Also, in general, more white people would be inclined to join Sikhi than black people who are more inclined to join Islam. These are facts, actually. Whites are more receptive towards Sikhi while blacks are more receptive towards Islam. Ya'll also alienate the number one demographic of Sikhs, Jatt Sikhs. Imagine if any good Jatt individual came across all your nasty posts. They would feel bad. SO No I will delete my posts, how about you tell others to delete all their anti-Jatt, anti-white nonsense first.

[MisterrSingh]

28 minutes ago, Jassu said:

By the way you PMed me to delete all my posts because "blacks will see and be offended and then not be inclined to join Sikhi". Lol, first of all, Gurjant and MANY posters here have posted anti-white rhetoric for numerous years now. If you look at the stats of this website, it is likely that more white people are visiting than black people. Also, in general, more white people would be inclined to join Sikhi than black people who are more inclined to join Islam. These are facts, actually. Whites are more receptive towards Sikhi while blacks are more receptive towards Islam. Ya'll also alienate the number one demographic of Sikhs, Jatt Sikhs. Imagine if any good Jatt individual came across all your nasty posts. They would feel bad. SO No I will delete my posts, how about you tell others to delete all their anti-Jatt, anti-white nonsense first.

Doesn't take a genius to figure there's a concerted effort on this forum to equate "Jattism" within Sikhi with the equivalent "Whiteness" in the Anglosphere; therefore two groups who are solely responsible for the evils of their respective demographics, and therefore two groups to be eliminated according to this beautifully tolerant and welcoming philosophy. 

I've been radicalised by this forum in ways you wouldn't believe!

[MisterrSingh]

59 minutes ago, Deepthinking22 said:

So I've been lurking on the forum as a guest for a few weeks and I am absolutely appalled by the response of the far left to this issue.  I was actually meaning on starting a similar thread on this topic and still probably will as I have so much to show and say.  It's mindsets like SinghPunjabSingh that are actually a part of the problem.   The racism from said community is much much more widespread than he thinks as this is happening in the UK too and is not at all limited to a handful of crackheads as suggested.  No, this does not mean we should start 'hating' the community (I have to say this because brainwashed people will see this and think it means I am saying it is an excuse to hate them), but it 110 per cent needs to be called out!!!  We should be able to call it out without being shamed.  You have black drill artists in the UK using 'Paki' in their songs now too which is basically the N word for Asians.  You have many racial attacks on Asians from Blacks in the UK let alone the USA (on East Asians and South Asians alike).  But as I said, I am working on presenting how bad the issue is and why it is how it is so I am going to be starting a new thread in the coming week or so.

We have a problem in the UK with the Afro-Caribbean community, specifically their feckless, resentful halfbreed mutts. Africans, from my experience, are really decent people. Things might be different from where you are. 

[Deepthinking22]

7 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

We have a problem in the UK with the Afro-Caribbean community, specifically their feckless, resentful halfbreed mutts. Africans, from my experience, are really decent people. Things might be different from where you are. 

I've had issues and seen issues from all types of blacks tbh (including Africans, Somalis) but yeah especially West Indians.  Yeah, the mixed races ones seem to be on another level.  Hardly anyone knows this but the Altab Ali murder in the East End of London (the racist murder back in 79 that made the was the final straw for the Bengalis and which led to them mobilising and becoming militant) was actually carried out by a mixed race guy.  He stated in his interview with police that if he saw a 'Paki' (any South Asian), he was gonna get it. The fact he was mixed race is always conveniently tactfully omitted from most articles etc, I wonder why. 

The racism from sections of the West Indian community is so extreme that their is actually an ongoing race war going on between them and Somalis in Camden which has resulted in some brutal murders. Think about it, if they are this racist to each other, imagine how they are going to feel about non blacks, Indians etc.  It's such a huge underrated issue that needs to be addressed. 

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

Doesn't take a genius to figure there's a concerted effort on this forum to equate "Jattism" within Sikhi with the equivalent "Whiteness" in the Anglosphere; therefore two groups who are solely responsible for the evils of their respective demographics, and therefore two groups to be eliminated according to this beautifully tolerant and welcoming philosophy. 

 

There's a lot of truth in that too. Both are groups that have their own agendas hiding behind screens. 

[MisterrSingh]

1 hour ago, Deepthinking22 said:

I've had issues and seen issues from all types of blacks tbh (including Africans, Somalis) but yeah especially West Indians.  Yeah, the mixed races ones seem to be on another level.  Hardly anyone knows this but the Altab Ali murder in the East End of London (the racist murder back in 79 that made the was the final straw for the Bengalis and which led to them mobilising and becoming militant) was actually carried out by a mixed race guy.  He stated in his interview with police that if he saw a 'Paki' (any South Asian), he was gonna get it. The fact he was mixed race is always conveniently tactfully omitted from most articles etc, I wonder why. 

The racism from sections of the West Indian community is so extreme that their is actually an ongoing race war going on between them and Somalis in Camden which has resulted in some brutal murders. Think about it, if they are this racist to each other, imagine how they are going to feel about non blacks, Indians etc.  It's such a huge underrated issue that needs to be addressed. 

Forgot about those Somalis.

But, yes, the mainstream is never, ever going to broach this subject. They'd try to convince you that you're delusional and prejudiced for noticing the problem rather than acknowledge the problem exists. Follow their example = more dead or ignorant Sikhs. 

If somehow they do note something is awry with those particular communities, it'll always, always be framed as the fault of the oppressive host nation. 

We're seeing the beginning of this "blame and alienate" approach on this forum, too, with Jatts taking the place of whites in the intersectional hierarchy.

[dallysingh101]

57 minutes ago, Deepthinking22 said:

I've had issues and seen issues from all types of blacks tbh (including Africans, Somalis) but yeah especially West Indians.  Yeah, the mixed races ones seem to be on another level.  Hardly anyone knows this but the Altab Ali murder in the East End of London (the racist murder back in 79 that made the was the final straw for the Bengalis and which led to them mobilising and becoming militant) was actually carried out by a mixed race guy.  He stated in his interview with police that if he saw a 'Paki' (any South Asian), he was gonna get it. The fact he was mixed race is always conveniently tactfully omitted from most articles etc, I wonder why. 

The racism from sections of the West Indian community is so extreme that their is actually an ongoing race war going on between them and Somalis in Camden which has resulted in some brutal murders. Think about it, if they are this racist to each other, imagine how they are going to feel about non blacks, Indians etc.  It's such a huge underrated issue that needs to be addressed. 

I think these issues (black and brown conflicts)  differ from area to area. In areas where brown people have been tough, you don't get that so much. I think what's happening is the genteel sections of our community are rattled by random attacks, and want protection.

About the Altab Ali case, I'm not shocked by that mixed-race attacker. From what I've seen (and I've got some mixed race younguns in my family), is that some of them struggle with identity and feelings of acceptance. More so in the past than now I would guess. This makes some resentful and aggressive, and then they find a home with others like them (some crew) and act out their anger.

I remember a good few years ago some mixed race youngun in Gravesend (he was half apna and something else) ended up randomly killing some apna cab driver over there.

I am hearing about minor street level confrontations and jostling these days. We do have a lot of feral youths in urban UK. Nothing that is happening is new in my opinion, it's just a certain generation has just been sheltered from it for a while. 

We can push the police etc. for our protection, but in the urban world, usually it's a communities reputation that ultimately holds sway on these matters - that's the reality.