Racism - callout as it is

[justasking]

thse blacks are becoming a pain, turst me even in  toronto they attacked a baba but next day they got it bad and these jamaican yardies were teasing woman and punjabis beat them bad there r videos online of these and 10 punjabis jumping 1 kala in brampton, these kaley need it like tht again.

and the media representation who cares we dont even need to mix with these ppl or there media make bank of them they r lowest of the low white western culture is scum fake i see right throught it. as for whites attacking us in my highschool days it was different we would go around and sometimes slap up  random goreh for fun  i know its wrong now but this is wat happened back in the day wen big group of apney would chill around  even kaley sometimes would get chased around but there rnt many kaley here as there r in toronto 

[Deepthinking22]

31 minutes ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

1. What exactly is it about my "mindset" that you object to? I am Sikh. I have never experienced any direct racism in my whole life from people of African background. To the contrary, I genuinely feel they are "our people" in their own way and likewise I have always received that love back. This whole nonsense about supposed massive levels of racism by black people against Sikhs is nonsense. I do not deny that there are gangbangers and crackheads who wouldn't care less if they attack Sikhs but statistically those types are actually more likely to kill fellow blacks so there is no massive community-backed racism against Sikhs by either African-Caribbeans in the UK or Canada nor even from African Americans in the States (albeit the incidence of crime in the States is far higher).

2. I don't believe the hype for one second. I have around half a dozen good friends who are from African heritage and have intercated through work and general travels with over a hundred black customers and people generally and not once encountered any racism. Albeit I would not deny that there is a sneering racism from Somali Muslims towards Sikhs which I am aware of.

3. It is important to emphasise that. Some people are using a couple of recent incidents in Richmond Hill as an excuse to claim that there is widespread racism against Sikhs from a community of 50million people when there simply isn't (and certainly not from your average middle-class or hardworking low income types that comprise the 90% majority of the community).

4. The Pakistani Punjabi's despise us as Sikhs despite being from the same as they proved in the 1947 Pakistan Genocide of Sikhs in which 25% of the Sikh population was killed. Given how they despise, it is well known how racist Pakistani's are against blacks. It's not surprising that the black community will not let itself be intimidated by Pakistani racism against them. There is no such thing as an Asian community. There are Hindu's, Sikhs and Muslims. Muslims and Blacks may well have beef due to racism directed at blacks on account of their being the descendants of slaves. But Sikhi is the opposite of Islam and Sikhi opposes Slavery, Sikhi opposes racism and Sikhi says that slaves have a moral status higher than Kings.

5. For every racial attack on Sikhs in the UK I would suggest that there are a hundred times more incidences of black on black crime.

6. What will you achieve by doing that? Do you seriously think that the minority of crime perpetrated against Sikhs by a few gangbangers and crackheads is the biggest issue the Sikh Panth faces? 

 

Your experience is not reflective of every other South Asian there is.  It doesn't represent all of our experiences.  I know of black people who have never encountered racism their whole life and their view on racism massively differs to other blacks who have.  It doesn't mean it's not there.  

Let's leave the anti Sikh thing from Blacks for a moment.  The main problem we are talking about is an anti Asian and anti anyone who isn't black problem.  Sikhs will naturally fall into this anyway.  Have you not heard of the StopAsian Hate movement?  You must have come across it.  Scores of East Asians have been getting attacked and even murdered the last couple of years and blacks have disproportionately been the perpetrators. 

Black on non black racism is not a new thing and it has been tried to be talked about for years.  It's got nothing to do with 'a couple of Richmond Hill incidences'.  

So you have no problem calling Pakistanis racists towards blacks but get immensely triggered when we highlight it happens the other way round?  You are excusing Black racism to Pakistanis because of a Pakistanis attitudes towards them?  My friend, have you heard of the term you can't fight fire with fire.  Plus where does it start and where does it begin?  I know of Pakistanis who are resentful of Blacks but that's because of the hate they got from them.  But is that an excuse to justify it?  No it's not, but that's what you have just said but the other way round. 

Your number 5 point has seriously made me cringe.  What the hell has that got to do with anything we are talking about?  So we should ignore the hate and murders happening to our community because black on black crime is a 'bigger issue'?  Mate, sorry you are absolutely and utterly brainwashed by the wokesim leftist cult to some next degree!.

[justasking]

i have had better expericnes with the somalis then i have with jamaican blacks 

[Deepthinking22]

29 minutes ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

1. I have lived and worked in America. You haven't. I have rishtedaar in America. You clearly don't. There is no general racist sentiment from African Americans towards Sikhs. Gangbangers and crackheads are not representative of a decent community that is 50million strong.

2. Absolutely falsehood. You are the one who is openly racist against them!

3. Wow one lady is resentful of the economic success of a store owner. So does that mean that if one Sikh in Punjab is resentful of the fact that Hindu Bania's dominate a lot of retail in urban Punjab that supposedly "Sikhs are very racist against Hindu's" (in your opinion)? Your argument holds no water whatsoever!

4. Your outright racism against kaaleh is more harmful as there is no way you can possibly be a Sikh and make racist posts against kaaleh.

5. No. The 50million strong community as a whole are our brothers and sisters on account of their community's suffering at the hands of White Supremacy to this day. That community are natural born Sikhs if racists like yourself would quit with your demonisation of them.

Any sane person can see Jassu has not said anything remotely racist about blacks. 

Why is it that when Indian Racism to Blacks is highlighted, you will have no problem agreeing with it yet when Black to Asian racism happens, all you can resort to is calling the victims racists? 

You should be absolutely and utterly ashamed of yourself.

May be you are not even Indian but Black yourself?

Guys, I knew we were going to have 'the good old intelligent mature thought out response/argument of you guys are racist', I mean I was waiting for it, but this guy has just taken it to another planet, lmao.  Oh my days, I am speechless at this point. 

[ChardikalaUK]

1 hour ago, justasking said:

thse blacks are becoming a pain, turst me even in  toronto they attacked a baba but next day they got it bad and these jamaican yardies were teasing woman and punjabis beat them bad there r videos online of these and 10 punjabis jumping 1 kala in brampton, these kaley need it like tht again.

and the media representation who cares we dont even need to mix with these ppl or there media make bank of them they r lowest of the low white western culture is scum fake i see right throught it. as for whites attacking us in my highschool days it was different we would go around and sometimes slap up  random goreh for fun  i know its wrong now but this is wat happened back in the day wen big group of apney would chill around  even kaley sometimes would get chased around but there rnt many kaley here as there r in toronto 

So why are you living in a country that whites founded and laid the foundations of?

[justasking]

5 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

So why are you living in a country that whites founded and laid the foundations of?

canada is for everyone bro we know what will happen if sikhs  follow white culture look no further than uk community,

[ChardikalaUK]

5 minutes ago, justasking said:

canada is for everyone bro we know what will happen if sikhs  follow white culture look no further than uk community,

For everyone lol. If apne ran the country it would turn into another Punjab/India. Goreh know how to run and organise things. One thing's for sure  if the Native Americans were still in charge, Bhinda from Batinda wouldn't sell his left kidney to make it there.

[SinghPunjabSingh]

18 hours ago, Jassu said:

1. Indians, have literally been expelled from multiple African countries for being more successful than the natives. 

In western countries, blacks feel resentful for the same reason again. Because Indians and East Asians are more successful than them despite being a minority as well and being there for less time than them. 

1. Yes but that has nothing to do with the African Diaspora. In fact it was only Idi Amin the Muslim ruler of Uganda that expelled Indians.

2. Yes I have no doubt that a minority of African Americans no doubt feel jealous of Korean and other Asian store owners due to family networks that assist the newcomers to succeed at the expense of people who have been suffering in the country for hundreds of years. That actually perfectly illustrates the systematic racism that African Americans have been victims of.

17 hours ago, Jassu said:

1. By the way you PMed me to delete all my posts because "blacks will see and be offended and then not be inclined to join Sikhi".

2. Gurjant and MANY posters here have posted anti-white rhetoric for numerous years now.

3. If you look at the stats of this website, it is likely that more white people are visiting than black people.

4. Also, in general, more white people would be inclined to join Sikhi than black people who are more inclined to join Islam.

1. I stand by that but I now see that you didn't just post insulting comments about the black community in order to annoy Gurjant Singh but that you are actually trying to double down on your personal dislike of them.

2. Gurjant is Irish-American so how exactly can he be racist against white people? What Gurjant did was call out White Supremacy and racism by white people. If I oppose the Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs or oppose Islamofascism it does not mean that I am racist against Punjabi's. It is possible to be of a certain ancestry and still decry others who we know that are perpetrating racism or Islamofascism or Hindutva for that matter.

3. So because more white folks might read the site than black you thought you would get in the good books of white racists by parroting their racist tropes against the black community? Bravo!

4. Says who? So Prophet Muhammad was a white Arab Slavemaster and white Arab Slave Trader who sold and traded black African men, women and children for financial profit and you think that black people who are educated about Sikhi opposing Slavery, Racism and Oppression will gravitate towards Islamofascism which explicity supports and condones Slavery in the Quran and Muhammad's own life example (Sharia)?

[MisterrSingh]

2 hours ago, justasking said:

i have had better expericnes with the somalis then i have with jamaican blacks 

Muslims of all ethnicities are taught to bide their time and gently flatter - or at least remain on cordial terms - with the dominant group in whichever place they exist for the sake of preservation when they don't have the overwhelming numbers to pose a threat. Give it another 20 years. When they've bred themselves into the ascendancy and Canuck Sikhs have hit their decline, something tells me these Somalians won't be as forthcoming with you guys.

[SinghPunjabSingh]

13 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

1. We have a problem in the UK with the Afro-Caribbean community

2. Africans, from my experience, are really decent people. Things might be different from where you are. 

1. I don't know what planet you are living on MisterrSingh or which part of London you are living in as I have never had any problems with Afro-Caribbeans who are in the main superb people particularly the older generation (though i do not deny that a minority of youth influenced by anti-Black Drill music are bad eggs). But I strongly feel that you might be projecting your own limited experiences as if they are reflective of the UK Sikh community. I strongly believe that only a minority of Sikhs may have experienced racism from black or mixed race folks in this decade. 

2. Africans represent the majority of the Black community in the UK and therefore from your own words and experience with them you acknowledge that most "black" folks are good decent people just like Sikhs.