Racism - callout as it is

[ChardikalaUK]

15 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

New Yorkers generally are quite a rude bunch. And that is New Yorkers of all ethnic groups.

Californians I find a lot more relaxed and laid back (generalisation here) compared to New Yorkers.

But your experience could because you were in the big cities. In the smaller cities and towns people tend to be friendlier. 

I myself had a bad experience at JFK airport, one with an African American and one with an Italian American.

I actually found the people in New York to be more friendly than LA, it's a more cosmopolitan place and they are more aware of Sikhs/Indians. There were simply too many superficial wannabes in LA. I think most of the young people there are trying to get into the entertainment industry and either think they are hot sh1t or are p1ssed off that it hasn't happened they have to be waiters. Great weather and scenery though.

I think Italian Americans are also known for being rude/racist, especially based on movies like Goodfellas and shows like the Sopranos. I found Italians in Rome to be rude as well.

I would say people here in Britain are some of the most friendliest in the world.

[ChardikalaUK]

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

What's strange is that I've met a few really black loathing people from the UK who do business in the US (around NY and Miami) and whatever experiences they have had seems to have changed them. Now they say they can't stand black people but African-Americans are okay. lol! 

Might watch that film again btw. Haven't seen it in many years. 

Yeah the vast majority of them were nice and struck up conversations with me. It's a cultural difference, the Anglo whites and Blacks have been in America the longest and both are quite similar in their outgoing nature and having 'American values'.

That film was brutal, I wonder if things are still that bad there. I actually went to Compton while I was in LA, it was OK along their main high street but I felt a bit uneasy in the more residential area. Again, a random friendly black person spoke to me about the nice weather and I got quite a rude response from some Mexicans when I asked for directions.

Even the ghettos in LA have palm trees everywhere lol.

[Ranjeet01]

28 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Yeah the vast majority of them were nice and struck up conversations with me. It's a cultural difference, the Anglo whites and Blacks have been in America the longest and both are quite similar in their outgoing nature and having 'American values'.

That film was brutal, I wonder if things are still that bad there. I actually went to Compton while I was in LA, it was OK along their main high street but I felt a bit uneasy in the more residential area. Again, a random friendly black person spoke to me about the nice weather and I got quite a rude response from some Mexicans when I asked for directions.

Even the ghettos in LA have palm trees everywhere lol.

Compton has taken a demographic change. It used to be majority black but now it is more Latino. 

[MisterrSingh]

1 hour ago, ChardikalaUK said:

I found Italians in Rome to be rude as well.

I've found Southern Italians and Spaniards in general to be bhainchods. It's probably that lingering Muslim blood from invasions and conversions centuries ago.

[dallysingh101]

On a somewhat related note. Let's notice the differing skin tones of our Sikh ancestors in this piece of puratan art:

 

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Yeah the vast majority of them were nice and struck up conversations with me. It's a cultural difference, the Anglo whites and Blacks have been in America the longest and both are quite similar in their outgoing nature and having 'American values'.

That film was brutal, I wonder if things are still that bad there. I actually went to Compton while I was in LA, it was OK along their main high street but I felt a bit uneasy in the more residential area. Again, a random friendly black person spoke to me about the nice weather and I got quite a rude response from some Mexicans when I asked for directions.

Even the ghettos in LA have palm trees everywhere lol.

I remember an amritdhari pal, who visited NY telling me how he had to re-tie his loose dastaar in a public toilet there and when he was doing it some African-American (who walked in) was like: "Wow man! That's awesome!" And then they struck up a conversation. That was pre 9/11 though. 

[dallysingh101]

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That film was brutal, I wonder if things are still that bad there. I actually went to Compton while I was in LA, it was OK along their main high street but I felt a bit uneasy in the more residential area. Again, a random friendly black person spoke to me about the nice weather and I got quite a rude response from some Mexicans when I asked for directions.

My brother did a short stint in NY. He said in general people are rude, even policemen when asked for directions. lol

 

Going to defo watch that film again. Some of those older films have no parallel with newer ones.  

[proudkaur21]

3 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:

My wife's from there. It's full of lunatic drivers and generally impatient people who have no regards to following laws.

There's no country with a South Asian majority that can be considered a first world country.

Well 2000 years of constant invasions can be partly blamed for that. The sikh kingdom was running just fine. Literacy rate was high. People were encouraged to learn various languages and subjects. Many sikhs were well versed in multiple languages. Maharaja ranjit singh developed good relations with foreign groups. You should read more about our kingdom and how things were done .There has been a systematic dumbing down of our people since our fall just like what is happening in the west now. Sikhi teaches you discipline. Most punjabis are undisciplined and love chaos. Now whose fault is this?

You should understand that west had the time to industrialize and correct their errors whereas we gained independence(not really us sikhs but south asia in general) and then had to rapidly industrialize without much considerations post 1947 which is why you see all this chaos. The Indians wanted Industry but didnt think further than that which is why you see all the major rivers polluted and no care for environment. You think europe was always clean and never had chaos? 

Alot of people on this forum seem to suffer from self hate. Add onto this the caste system and the oppression suffered by a large group of people in the subcontinent for centuries being devoid of education , proper nutrition and what not.

There are multiple factors as to why things are the way they are. The people in the subcontinent have a mentality of subjugation and slavery. They accept their bad conditions instead of revolting against the norm. This is also why they hate when Sikhs revolt against the state for our rights. For 1000 years they have been taught subjugation and think that is the right way. They accept the bad conditions instead of fighting against it.

[ChardikalaUK]

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Compton has taken a demographic change. It used to be majority black but now it is more Latino. 

Yes, most formerly black areas in Los Angeles are now full of Latinos due to mass immigration in the 90s and 2000s from Central America. A lot of the blacks have moved out to places like Atlanta which are black majority cities.

[dallysingh101]

14 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Yes, most formerly black areas in Los Angeles are now full of Latinos due to mass immigration in the 90s and 2000s from Central America. A lot of the blacks have moved out to places like Atlanta which are black majority cities.

I've heard from people who've been there that it is like a well to do, prosperous black area - not at all like the ghetto stereotype of popular imagination?