Sikh man facing beheading in Saudi Arabia

[Premi5]

58 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

What liberals don't realise is that suls by default are not liberal at all. They will take advantage of the Liberal nature of people from other faiths. You have to always keep your guard up with them.

And yes Minreet Kaur is a disgrace. 

Muslims generally get more religious as they get older (even if not religious when younger), compared with Hindus and Sikhs 

[MisterrSingh]

1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

I think she's just a 'liberal' . This has resulted from poor upbringing /failure to teach Sikh values by her parents. She should not identify herself as a Sikh.

There we go again with this completely wilful misreading and ignorance of what Sikh religious texts instruct us. There is nothing she has done that isn't endorsed by our faith. If anything she's following it in the correct manner.

[ChardikalaUK]

1 hour ago, abhinav said:

I know of a Hindu girl, a really nice liberal naïve trusting secular type, who married a pak sullah. Her kids don’t go to the Mandir, they go only to the Mosque. Also the guy’s mother told her that they were going to make proper Muslims out of the kids.

Logically he will have had to pretend that he respected all religions when he was wooing her, if only implicitly.

 

Standard fare. I feel sorry for her parents. I will explicitly tell my kids that if you get involved with suls then it's a straight up disowning from me. None of this we are all the same nonsense.

[Recurve]

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

There we go again with this completely wilful misreading and ignorance of what Sikh religious texts instruct us. There is nothing she has done that isn't endorsed by our faith. If anything she's following it in the correct manner.

Do the rehits of marrying a Sikh mean nothing? 

[MisterrSingh]

21 minutes ago, Recurve said:

Do the rehits of marrying a Sikh mean nothing? 

When you go to a Gurdwara, who do you bow to: Guru Granth Sahib Ji or a collection of rehats?

Ask Minreet Kaur (the archetypal Sikh normie) what she knows of the rehats that prohibit marriage between Sikhs and Muslims. You'll get the answer to your question.

[Premi5]

2 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

There is nothing she has done that isn't endorsed by our faith. If anything she's following it in the correct manner.

You’ve completely lost me

[MisterrSingh]

22 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

You’ve completely lost me

The masses that consist of a religion's membership aren't geniuses or original thinkers. The habits and conduct a religion wants its followers to form and exemplify must be drilled into the heads of its congregation constantly without any hint of vagueness.

By its very nature, a religion must be exclusionary of other competing belief systems else the people you have belonging to your religion can leave for greener pastures. Any hint of accommodating other competing religions is the death knell for a comparatively smaller and younger belief system.

If you want your religion to grow and not fall victim to other competing religions you must state in your scriptures WHY you cannot join hands and live in Lullaby-Land with other larger, predatory religions who want to remove the followers from your religion and join them to theirs. It cannot just be a fleeting reference amongst thousands of verses that espouse occasionally contradictory edicts. There needs to be a consistent and concerted through-line that runs throughout the entire text.

I ask you: does this sound like anything you've read in Guru Granth Sahib Ji?

 

[Jacfsing2]

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

When you go to a Gurdwara, who do you bow to: Guru Granth Sahib Ji or a collection of rehats?

Ask Minreet Kaur (the archetypal Sikh normie) what she knows of the rehats that prohibit marriage between Sikhs and Muslims. You'll get the answer to your question.

Why marry with Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji if you don't believe in what the Guru is saying? Imagine going to Jesus or Muhammad and asking their blessing for a marriage when they don't even nominally consider them important.

[MisterrSingh]

1 hour ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Why marry with Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji if you don't believe in what the Guru is saying? Imagine going to Jesus or Muhammad and asking their blessing for a marriage when they don't even nominally consider them important.

It's just rituals to these people. Their faction (ritualistic materialists) feel emboldened in dictating to those who want to preserve their religious ways and norms, because the wider culture has discarded all sense of sincere belief. On some level they realise they don't really believe in the metaphysics of the whole religion (because to do so would require them to overhaul their entire mindset and worldview) BUT the aesthetics (culturally, socially, physically) are just too much to discard in their entirety. Women are all about aesthetics and social acceptance; in these cases the overwhelming social creed of the broader culture overshadows the provincial, minority creed of their ethnicity, therefore they don't feel any guilt or fear because their religion has zero consequences for those who decide to act against its interests.

So they realise the wider culture is incessantly agitating against "borders" or separation between creeds, and these types like Minreet Kaur realise they can inflict damage or pressure on their own religion by casting it in a negative light as a system that stands in the way of the enlightened "One Creed World" system that the wider culture wants to embrace wholeheartedly. But they reveal their low-IQs when they agitate for "oneness" in favour of Islam; arguably the one religion that is the antithesis of plurality and co-existence. But by the time these traitors 5hit out a couple of half-Sikh, half-Muslim mutts, these women realise the Abdul they married doesn't give a tatti about plurality and co-existence. It's too late.

It's not too difficult to understand if you break it all down and have a decent grasp of the way different types of people think.

[Recurve]

4 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

When you go to a Gurdwara, who do you bow to: Guru Granth Sahib Ji or a collection of rehats?

Ask Minreet Kaur (the archetypal Sikh normie) what she knows of the rehats that prohibit marriage between Sikhs and Muslims. You'll get the answer to your question.

We bow to externalise what internally we should be doing simultaneously renouncing our mat to heed Gurmat- the giaan.

Question to you why do they bow to Guru Granth Sahib? Who told them to?