harmonium out of Darbar shaib

[Guest gurdev]

jathdar says harmonium will be  out with 3 year 

[S1ngh]

Harmonium is not what our guru sahib jee used. However, i have no quarrel whether to use it to not as long as focus is 100% being devoted to Gurbani. 

In Sikh culture, salwar kameez and kurta pajama is also not our culture either. Not many ppl are aware of this.

[5aaban]

9 hours ago, S1ngh said:

Harmonium is not what our guru sahib jee used. However, i have no quarrel whether to use it to not as long as focus is 100% being devoted to Gurbani. 

In Sikh culture, salwar kameez and kurta pajama is also not our culture either. Not many ppl are aware of this.

Back in the days, women of Panjab wore either a Suthan style trouser (which could be loose or tight), a Ghagra or a Tehmat/Dhoti (mainly west Panjab). They wore a Kurti, which was shorter than the modern Kameez and if you go a bit back, some could be seen wearing a Choli too. Suthan style trousers eventually evolved into the modern salwar during the 1900s. 

Typical dress of a Panjabi women from Amritsar 1875.

 

The Suthan looked like this. These photos range from the the 1870s to early 1900s.  

 

The Ghagra was worn over trousers when heading outside, mainly by Sikh and Hindu women. 

The Dhoti or Tehmat was mainly worn by Muslim Panjabi women from a certain area of west Panjab as Sikh women preferred a Ghagra. 

[Premi5]

On 5/27/2022 at 12:32 PM, Guest gurdev said:

jathdar says harmonium will be  out with 3 year 

Is that enough time for someone who has been using other recognised instruments for their whole working life, to learn another instrument ?

 

[Kaurr]

1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

Is that enough time for someone who has been using other recognised instruments for their whole working life, to learn another instrument ?

 

Yes, been using harmonium since I was 5-6, started using dilruba when I was around 12-13, and it took me less than 3 years to be able to do kirtan on the dilruba.

[Dsinghd]

20 hours ago, S1ngh said:

Harmonium is not what our guru sahib jee used. However, i have no quarrel whether to use it to not as long as focus is 100% being devoted to Gurbani. 

In Sikh culture, salwar kameez and kurta pajama is also not our culture either. Not many ppl are aware of this.

Interesting. Why isn’t Kurta cultural? 

[dharamyudh]

Isn't the Kurta Pajama, specially the Pajama a recent thing introduced to Panjab? Like around the 70s possibly? I know for sure men were wearing chadras

[dharamyudh]

Styles were basically either rocking a chadra or just a Kurta with a kachera or shorts underneath. Resembles the bana. 

[5aaban]

3 hours ago, dharamyudh said:

Isn't the Kurta Pajama, specially the Pajama a recent thing introduced to Panjab? Like around the 70s possibly? I know for sure men were wearing chadras

Most men wore a Chadara especially in rural areas but there was a churidaar style Pajama around (though not popular). Sometimes in summers, men in rural areas just wrapped a large white sheet around the top half instead of wearing a Kurta (which was worn in winter).  Some men also viewed it as "foolish" to wear a Pajama and the term was used as an insult. 

What one wore also depended on their community and region in Panjab.

I think Pajama was introduced way before the 70s, more likely in the 30s or 40s. 

Sialkot city in the early 20th century. Some men can be seen wearing a pajama-like garment. 

Maharaja Hira Singh of Nabha in 1890s wearing a Churidaar style Pajama. I saw a few photos of men around Amritsar wearing this style too in the early 1900s. 

[dharamyudh]

3 hours ago, 5aaban said:

Most men wore a Chadara especially in rural areas but there was a churidaar style Pajama around (though not popular). Sometimes in summers, men in rural areas just wrapped a large white sheet around the top half instead of wearing a Kurta (which was worn in winter).  Some men also viewed it as "foolish" to wear a Pajama and the term was used as an insult. 

What one wore also depended on their community and region in Panjab.

I think Pajama was introduced way before the 70s, more likely in the 30s or 40s. 

Sialkot city in the early 20th century. Some men can be seen wearing a pajama-like garment. 

Maharaja Hira Singh of Nabha in 1890s wearing a Churidaar style Pajama. I saw a few photos of men around Amritsar wearing this style too in the early 1900s. 

Interesting. The reason why I'm saying around the 70s, is because my Mom was telling me all about when the modern Kurta Pajama first dropped into Panjab. Prior, everyone just wore chadras and those kurtas with shorts.