Why is Music against rules of Sikhi

[Premi5]

First question. Is non-Gurbani music against Rehit of being Sikh?

Second. What is the ‘proof’ from a Sikhi perspective of this?

I personally think listening to most music outside of Gurbani or Dharmic non-Gurbani does more harm than good.

Obviously some music is ‘worse’ than others with damage/influence to the Psyche and influence on our thoughts and behaviour

But, if I was to explain this from Sikhi perspective to someone challenging me (Sikh or non-Sikh) how would I summarise it? 

[Ranjeet01]

I wonder if it relates to music with lyrics. 

What if it is music with no lyrics with only instruments. 

Music does have a way of impacting mood and energy. I wonder if it has to do with the frequencies that the vibrations give off?

[ipledgeblue]

but who is going to tell the keertanis playing harmonium in the gurdwara?

If harmonium is allowed, then how can we put down anything else? Harmonium players even damage keertan by using tunes from bhangra music instead of playing raags!

[MisterrSingh]

23 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

I wonder if it relates to music with lyrics. 

What if it is music with no lyrics with only instruments. 

Music does have a way of impacting mood and energy. I wonder if it has to do with the frequencies that the vibrations give off?

Yes, it stems from ancient Vedic aatmic energy / vibrational frequencies philosophies, etc. Same with food / diet regulations, i.e. satvic, rajas, tamas, etc. Apne religious instructors don't explain it because they don't have the knowledge to go into the subject on a deep level AND because they didn't study the subject itself, so they rely on Islamic-Sharia style decrees to prohibit it, making Sikhi seem like a one-dimensional Islamic sect.

[Ranjeet01]

46 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Yes, it stems from ancient Vedic aatmic energy / vibrational frequencies philosophies, etc. Same with food / diet regulations, i.e. satvic, rajas, tamas, etc. Apne religious instructors don't explain it because they don't have the knowledge to go into the subject on a deep level AND because they didn't study the subject itself, so they rely on Islamic-Sharia style decrees to prohibit it, making Sikhi seem like a one-dimensional Islamic sect.

Yes, it is something that I have come to realise. More through self discovery and putting 2 and 2 together. 

If you hear something like hard rock/heavy thrash metal like Metallica or something of that nature, it has a particular intensity and it make bang your head up and down which is what you see those goreh banging their heads, crowd jumping and chunking themselves in mosh pits. Those electric guitars, lol

I had some spoilt kids in the back of my car once and I threatened them with classical music if they did not behave, lol. I switched on Classic FM (which I never listened to before) but it calmed them down. Very strange, lol and they liked it.

[Suchi]

21 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Yes, it is something that I have come to realise. More through self discovery and putting 2 and 2 together. 

If you hear something like hard rock/heavy thrash metal like Metallica or something of that nature, it has a particular intensity and it make bang your head up and down which is what you see those goreh banging their heads, crowd jumping and chunking themselves in mosh pits. Those electric guitars, lol

I had some spoilt kids in the back of my car once and I threatened them with classical music if they did not behave, lol. I switched on Classic FM (which I never listened to before) but it calmed them down. Very strange, lol and they liked it.

Yes, children often respond well to music. Many Indians use mantras to stop babies crying and to calm unborn babies down too, along with the mother. 

Others use mantras to aid healing of their loved ones in hospital. 

Very powerful tool which should not be forsaken as I'm sure Muslims could do with it. Quite badly. 

 

[MisterrSingh]

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Yes, it is something that I have come to realise. More through self discovery and putting 2 and 2 together. 

If you hear something like hard rock/heavy thrash metal like Metallica or something of that nature, it has a particular intensity and it make bang your head up and down which is what you see those goreh banging their heads, crowd jumping and chunking themselves in mosh pits. Those electric guitars, lol

I had some spoilt kids in the back of my car once and I threatened them with classical music if they did not behave, lol. I switched on Classic FM (which I never listened to before) but it calmed them down. Very strange, lol and they liked it.

I vaguely remember something about studies conducted where plants responded to classical music through better growth compared to other types of music.

[proudkaur21]

I do believe the kind fo stuff you listen to and watch has a deep impact on your mind.

[Ranjeet01]

6 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

I vaguely remember something about studies conducted where plants responded to classical music through better growth compared to other types of music.

I think that plants also have some kind of collective intelligence and respond to certain stimuli. 

[ipledgeblue]

4 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

I do believe the kind fo stuff you listen to and watch has a deep impact on your mind.

so I wonder what impact playing and listening to harmonium has had on the sikh panth since last century?