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On 5/25/2023 at 9:59 PM, Jai Tegang! said:

Caste discrimination can't be solely blamed because Punjab tends to be better than most parts of India (even the gov. figures agree). Also, Punjab has the largest proportion of "lower castes" at 32%. 

Stats mean nothing, it's what happens and is experienced at ground level that counts (which is usually covered up). Like racism in the west (with routine and systemic micro and macro aggressions), people create structures that perpetuate the discrimination and abuse, and the structures operate in the shadows, denying their own existence.

Given your really insightful posts in the past, I'm genuinely shocked you don't see this?   


Also, we know a lot of people have converted to our thing in the colonial period for employment purposes, and we already have our own precolonial accounts of the 5 types of Sikhs which acknowledges opportunists with no real faith. It's these people who are effecting us like this. And I don't think they are some small minority.



The thing is, it's not just that. If you visit Punjab, you'll see posters for Christian preachers with Punjabi Jatt last names.

It's probably these opportunists (spoken of previously) now jumping on the newest materially beneficial bandwagon.  



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13 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

I'm sure the number is much lower of actual Christians, because many of them are only nominally Christian for the community aspect. Very few people genuinely believe the earth is only 10000 years old and the Bible.

That may very well be, but the point is the trend is down (whatever meaning that people take for "identifying" as Christian, that number is down).

So if the true number of "real" Christians is even smaller, that contributes to their feeling that if their fellow goras won't believe, then why don't we fund efforts to fool blacks and Indians/Punjabis into believing that stuff?

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Goras have started to give up processed foods, refined oils, refined grains, fast food, preservatives, seed oils like palm and canola, and so on. Punjabis are stupid, so first they have to go through that stage, and only later will they notice that goras have given that stuff up.

So now, Punjabis are going through the Yisu Masih phase. All the missionaries have to do is write a single line such as "ਰੱਬ ਨੇ ਆਪਣਾ ਇਕਲੌਤਾ ਪੁੱਤਰ ਕੁਰਬਾਨ ਕੀਤਾ ਤਾਂ ਜੋ ਹਰ ਕੋਈ ਜੋ ਉਹਦੇ ਤੇ ਯਕੀਨ ਕਰੇ, ਸਦੀਵੀ ਜੀਵਨ ਜੀ ਸਕੇ" (For God gave his only begotten Son so that anyone who believes in him could live an everlasting life.)

And Punjabis are so dumb, they'll just believe that and not bother to read the rest of the missionary's Bible, even though it's printed in Punjabi!

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