Turning into a passport bro

[redoptics2013]

18 minutes ago, Kaurr said:

Obviously every sikh has to learn gurmukhi, the phonetics in gurmukhi cannot be accurately translated to other language, however reading baani in english or hindi or spanish or whatever is better than reading no baani at all for people who cannot read gurmukhi yet. 

I think everyone should read Guru Granth Sahib ji as many times as possible, with meanings, you learn so much. It's also good to read dasam granth and sarabloh granth. We should read as much as possible imo, we're lacking a lot of knowledge in sikhi. 

Kirtan is essential imo, if anyone has the opportunity to learn raag kirtan, they should, and make sure kids know kirtan as well, it's the one thing that connects you. 

That's all part of religion though, learning gurmukhi, reading baani, learning about sikhi, and learning sikhi is for sikhs, not punjabis, we have to remember that the two are not synonymous. 

 

 

It's not obvious because they don't,  reading in other languages is also not good, IK OnKar is known through out the world as meaning there is one God when it doesn't and people think our panth is monotheistic when it's actually panenthistic not to be mixed with panthestic.

[dallysingh101]

8 minutes ago, redoptics2013 said:

It's not obvious because they don't,  reading in other languages is also not good, IK OnKar is known through out the world as meaning there is one God when it doesn't and people think our panth is monotheistic when it's actually panenthistic not to be mixed with panthestic.

See, you've hit on a major issue here. Even for Sikhs or people from other backgrounds wanting to enter/explore Sikhi, what currently exists (especially that which has direct or indirect roots to the colonial era) is just way off, and just further serves to confuse or make us look like idi1ots who don't know their own thing.

It might sound clichéd, but I think we're actually on the cusp of a renaissance  where we actually start to really discover what our heritage is beyond the simplified pendu interpretation which has been doing the rounds for a long while.  

[dallysingh101]

35 minutes ago, redoptics2013 said:

I personally think every Sikh has to learn Gurmukhi,  and we need to try and get out of do your nitnem and everything is fine mentality.  Guru Granth Sahib Ji has 1430 angs there is so much to learn . For instance you want to know indepth what a real Gurmukh is read Sidth Gosht. Also Guru Nanak Sahib Ji explains Shabad is Guru and singing bani is a must because of sound vibrations the words produce when pronounced.

I think missing Dasam Granth can also make a person imbalanced. There is a lot of worldly stuff there we need to ponder/know. 

[californiasardar1]

17 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Steady on mate. I think he lives in deepest, darkest northern monkey territory. That backwards, shytehole would be off putting for even third world people.......phew  

Where does he live?

[Ranjeet01]

There is a sizeable South American community in the UK. Particularly in London. Parts of South London have Colombians now as well as Brazilians which is quite surprising. 

The local gym I go to has a Colombian personal trainer and I think the most well known Colombian in the UK is one of those YouTube stars called Yung Filly though he was raised in the UK.

 

[Kau89r8]

4 hours ago, Kaurr said:

I don't think that has to go with them being mixed race, seen countless punjabis cutting their hair, especially around my age right now. It's because they were only sikhs because their of their parent(s), just like a lot of the goreh in the west who's parents go church but they don't take their kids. Make sure to raise the kids in a way that they have their own love for waheguru, and they want to go to the gurdwara on their own accord, not because they're being forced to and it's a chore. 

Sikhi is well above race, imo race shouldn't be a barrier. Somethink that we're currently lacking is expanding into non-punjabis because we prioritise keeping our 'punjabi roots' over sikhi. Culture changes over time, sikhi doesn't, it's eternal, above all race and culture. 

 

My mums side live in majority Canada and i can say being modest but from 30 members family Greatgrand father - kids not 1 is keeping their kes. Even some were born brought up in Panjab kept kes younger then cut it later. Not the parents not grandparents. Some cousin came last yr i asked him about how often they visit Gurudwara he said 'nah God is everywhere' lol like atheists . 0 interests in Panthic issues. They all live in there huge mansions (thanks parents hard work) drive nice cars acres acres of land .....

Its so weird in Canada like they are those white christians in usa never go church but call themselves christian ... Either they are Amritdhari in Canada or simple atheists 'Sikhs'  like no inbetween lol 

Agree with race which is what i was saying regarding islam how they grow fastest religion that Sikhi needs to spread to non-Panjabis ... but we dont have great Parachar orgs... 

[dallysingh101]

14 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

but we dont have great Parachar orgs... 

Why would we even need those when we've got guys like this.

 

 

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, californiasardar1 said:

Where does he live?

He's hiding it, but I gather it's some northern backward cesspit. Gora are shyte generally in england, but those ones up north are even shyter than the already very low standard of these people. 

Occasionally you encounter some of these when working on sites in the south, they are backwards and don't even try and hide their racism. It's like they've not made some evolutionary jump others have. And their accents sound horrific. I guess when I think about it, they are like the UK's equivalent of Jullunderys? 

[dallysingh101]

@redoptics2013

 

If you get short of cash tell her to bring over some of that white, powdery stuff her native place is famous for. There's a big demand for it apparently. lol

[californiasardar1]

9 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

He's hiding it, but I gather it's some northern backward cesspit. Gora are shyte generally in england, but those ones up north are even shyter than the already very low standard of these people. 

Occasionally you encounter some of these when working on sites in the south, they are backwards and don't even try and hide their racism. It's like they've not made some evolutionary jump others have. And their accents sound horrific. I guess when I think about it, they are like the UK's equivalent of Jullunderys? 

 

I was in Manchester a few times, and it was depressing as hell. It also had perhaps the ugliest people I have ever seen in my life. I really don't understand why English people look so much worse than other Europeans. Maybe they have a high inbreeding coefficient or something.

The nice thing about going north in the UK is that you eventually end up in Scotland.

Funny that you are taking a swipe at people from Jalandhar. You must be the only Punjabi in the UK not from the doaba area.