NIHAAAL

..khalistan would a place where history sikhs wont be changed, where the sikh religion wont be interfered with, where sikhs wont be target of jokes, where sikhs wont have the fear of being slaughtered, where hair of sikh men wont be shaved, where sikhs wont be undermined,

khalistan will be a place where everyone will be treated equal, there wont be 1984,or 1991, or 2002 incidents in khalistan

...where sikhs can simply live in peace and help the world

u no what to both on this post jai ho and mann, jus lookn at us we are bad as each other and cant take another persons view we shouldnt be fighting each other man f it all truthfully iv got my views only after seeing the victims eg when i stayed at mehta jugraj singh toofans dad past away and all the singhs went to the antam sanskar and we met her mother and she goes to the singhs wen she was doing bachan that what has hapnd in the past has but we just want to live the rest of our life and about the movent all she said was nothing is left because of all what hapnd it has wrecked our lives but its all hukam, and listnin to her she jus won me over and my views started to change, so therefore i cant change no one elses views and u cant change n e one elses so respect each other cus we are the same, and if anything did kick off against the panth properly im 100% sure we will be there shoulder to shoulder WHY? because we have got the same parents and u can meet up anytime we need to start to get together and our main goal in the political movement should be at the moment is to sort people like kps gill etc out then the rest. Also talking on other terms try and go live in india with the singhs trust me it is the best thing ul ever do....

gurfateh

f this land that divides the panth and fills it with hatred lol well done u internet freedom fighter

..yh khalistan will divide the panth u do really know ur stuff,

..and one thing why do u type lol for no reason,

lol cuz im not gulam i can write what i feel n want lol lol lol happi gues not ur gulam hunna one thing the khalsa is NEVER gulaam, any way u telling me at this moment in time the panth is together on khalistan ofcourse not theres a few that want it and theres a few that dont and therse a few that are not bothered

lol what a joke i cant even be bothered to reply to that crap lol the argument for khalistan has no leg to stand on (the country)

all i no is majority of the panth isnt for khalistan but only like ten people are, even ask the gorey sikhs for their views for khalistan they will laugh and think na not for the khalsa panth.... what is the diffrence of u hardcore fanatic khalistanis to the jews and the palestinians fighting for land but i no 1 thing maharaj made the khalsa diffrnt to all or these puppets, instead if fighting for land we should focus on our familys and friends who are drifting from sikhi and our girls getn converted, but no ulot decide to fight for ur virtual state on the net and all talk, what will become of our gurdwarey in india? can we afford any more religious shrines lost huh and most of all ulot giv it 10 on the net and at hyde park but what are ulot actually doing? lol what a joke may vaheguru bless u narrow minded fanatics and make u realise vahegurus naam is most important, i mean i no u fantaics would rather listen to khalistani jagowale songs rather than do ur nitnem lol well done the truth hurts ulot so carry on dwelling on the past and go against guru jis hukam END OF :TH:

GURFATEH

...gulmai has its roots so strong in u my friend, that u carry on playing the same tune, u do wot u want to do.

i have nothing against u being a gulam of india,

You being so patriotic about being Hindustani, that you even go to the length of calling ur fellow Sikhs puppets,

..and khalistani jagowale songs, wot (they are not songs but kvisre), if u didn't know this then u r not sikh

..and dont keep repeating the same thing over and over again,and you dont worry about the sikh shrines or gurdwares or anything relating to sikhs, we will take care of that. :TH:

lol yeah if u puting hindustan zindabaad in my mouth then u carry on if it makes u hapi ulot like to point fingers dont u and like i said before mate i aint gulam im a sikh and try my best to hold the khalsa values and i walk free and azzaaad but yeah i call people puppets wen they choose like urself to be gulam and also i am british end of i onli respect india yes india because of my sikhi heritage came from there also it was onli nowaydays that it was called india or bharat but like i said i aint gulam my fellow sikhs are not gulam at this present day but ulot choose to be gulam lol lol lol lol lol and if my roots are gulam thats a direct attack on the khalsa values mate so watch wat u say n also like i said if u want anyday mate face to face cuz it ulot like jai ho that choose to not accept any other view apart from khalistani views, hmmm let me see ur at home talkin about khalistan doing nothing just talkin on the net let me see u mite be tryna find out some info then hey hmmm interesting

Nihaal there is nothing wrong in expressing your political views but when you start saying sikhs are yelling our water our water, are you part of the same Bharat breed which yells,

"SAADA KASHMIR SAADA KASHMIR!!!!"

don't insult the millions of Punjab farmers who work their tails off to feed the nation. last I checked farms need water. when they are starved of water, crops die. limit your fanatic anti-khalistani views to some logical arguments rather than falling into your own pit of anger and hatred against a group of people, who at the end of the day, are your fellow sikh brothers and sisters.

It is amazing that amritdharis such as yourself, as you claim, have managed to reach such a high avastha and moral ground that you've trained your mind to living amongst the people who murdered your people and raped your sisters, only to be awarded medals of patriotism; but to live amongst khalistanis is unimaginable. khalistanis make you so angry and upset, yet the likes of KPS Gill who would be tried of war crimes in any civilized country other than India doesn't even make you blink. A bunch of internet kharkoos has made you post wildly, yet real deaths , real murders, real genocide has not made your sikh spirit awake? after all the nitnem and gurbaani, you haven't managed to spend your energy towards the likes of Tytler, Brar, Gill, Badal, etc etc? After all the gurbaani you have found that your biggest obstacle in your spiritual journey are the "ten" khalistanis that you cliam exist in the world? Just ten people making an amritdhari singh such as yourslef so angry makes me wonder what level of spirituality you are talking from. what i see is a sipritual and moral hypocrisy from people like you.

the demand of khalistan is not the result of some new breed of crazy fanatical sikhs. the last i checked, sikh from the beginning of time have always fought against injustice and tyranny. the khalistan movement would have died a natural death if simple demands like punishing murderers and rapists and repealing anti-sikh laws etc. But instead the gov't chose to silence the movement by brutal and inhumane ways.

you want the source of khalistan. go yell at the forces which govern India. They are the head of the problem. Just as the body dies when the head is cut off, the khalistan movement will die a quick and complete death if the head of the source is cut off. the source is the corrupt brahamnical forces, but the Indian gov't has barinwashed the common Indian into thinking the khalistan movement is some spontaneous foreign hatched conspiracy to undermine the unity of india. For god sakes Sikhs made India, why did they wish to destroy it? They didn't, the sikhs were betrayed.

Relax, take a deep breath, and take your Sikhi inspired spirit to fight the real source of the menace you call khalistan.

Take your own advice brother. You say don't fight for a little piece of and, fight for the whole world. OK, take your own advice and fight the promoters of genocide and mass cremations rather than a bunch of internet kharkoos and khalistanis who number merely ten according to you. you ask us to fight for the world yet you choose to waste your time arguing with a bunch of internet kharkoos. hun saanu das assi teriyaan galaan te ki jakeen kariyeh?

peace.

get ur facts rite mate u think u no it all huh ur on about me liking kps gill ova the khalistanis did i say that u joka no way he a dusht and dusht should me killed thats it end of, im just onabout people nowadays who focus to much on khalistan like ur self ur clearly forgeting what im saying in ma post and instead u oik and choose to suit u, so therefore are u in panjab what are u doing for panjab, cuz its always the case here the media hypes it up more and more, so just face it ur own brothers and sisters aswell dont want khalistan, like i said before i used to be so hardcore about khalistan but if i die tmo and all my life i was just dwelling on khalistan i will never attain mukhtee, even though amritdhari it dont mean we all ok now, no it dont work like that takin amrit is jus a step in the school and we have to pass, and khalistan is surely not in any subject for me and my fellow sikhs to attain mukhtee...

peace

....good points but i don't think many of the fools will want to understands

lol what a joke i cant even be bothered to reply to that crap lol the argument for khalistan has no leg to stand on (the country)

all i no is majority of the panth isnt for khalistan but only like ten people are, even ask the gorey sikhs for their views for khalistan they will laugh and think na not for the khalsa panth.... what is the diffrence of u hardcore fanatic khalistanis to the jews and the palestinians fighting for land but i no 1 thing maharaj made the khalsa diffrnt to all or these puppets, instead if fighting for land we should focus on our familys and friends who are drifting from sikhi and our girls getn converted, but no ulot decide to fight for ur virtual state on the net and all talk, what will become of our gurdwarey in india? can we afford any more religious shrines lost huh and most of all ulot giv it 10 on the net and at hyde park but what are ulot actually doing? lol what a joke may vaheguru bless u narrow minded fanatics and make u realise vahegurus naam is most important, i mean i no u fantaics would rather listen to khalistani jagowale songs rather than do ur nitnem lol well done the truth hurts ulot so carry on dwelling on the past and go against guru jis hukam END OF :TH:

GURFATEH

Hmmm, these kind of weirdos come on this forum every now to get emotional reactions and the latest news on the movement.

He joined May 20th and has a little over 20 posts, yet all he seems to bring up are the same old baseless and unrealistic reasons as to why khalistan is wrong. And as i said earlier, dont waste your time having discussions with fools about the importance of Sikh raj, they're not trying to be objective in their approach, nor do they care to listen to any practical reasoning supporting khalistan. In fact, they become more upset when those reasons are brought to the table, after this happens, we will know what comes next; its the "fanatic, terrorist, extremist" card! Thats their way of detering from the real argument at hand. Looks as though you bhartiye/traitors have been kind of slow in forming new tactics to malign Sikhs and create disharmony amongsts our Sikh brothers and sisters, news flash you spineless monkeys, youve failed!

Anyways, awesome post Bilja Singh veereh, as for NIHAAAL...ummm, you've been exposed!

Fateh.

yo geez if u wana meet up face to face brv any time and ul see the truth whether im an agent or wateva lol i onli come on because all i ever hear about on this forum from dumasses is we need khalistan well narinder what are you doing mate all am sayin is ant time anywhere and u will see my history of how hardcore khalistani i was but then staying with singhs at tha dal and taksal and mahapurakhs how ma views have changed from being so narrow minded and useless sikhi over land so let me say it again khalistan has nothing to do with sikhi and brv as a amritdhari and SOOOOO many amritdharis i no they have jus woken up to practice REAL SIKHI and have forgoten their khalistan needs tell u straight, so narinder seng face other peoples opinions ok ulot think ur soooo right lol well im telling u one thing read the karni namma guru nanak dev ji says "there will come a day where the khalsa WILL FORGET its true living and meanings, thats when i will return to ressurect the khalsa" well my sikh brother the khalsa ways of today are a long long away from what maharaj wanted us to be and we have forgoten the true meaning of khalsa and the living eg "WE NEED LAND" O LAANNDD ZINDABAAD" "WE NEED OUR WATER BACK" erm hello mate OUR water since when was it ours, remember my brv one word like certain mahapurakhs told the singh while i was there HARMONY is what we need in the world at the moment, the world is in taters and the khalsa should be there but the true khalsa has forgoten what it really is, the time is coming the signs maharaj had given us are hapnin now so we should jaap naam like never before and when time comes harmony will be restored, and when we say panth it doesnt mean just us sikhs, maharaj revers to the panth as the WHOLE creation... belive the truth if u want, if u dont then up to all of you all us brothers can do is tell fellow brothers and sisters now the choice is urs....

wjkk wjkf

NOTE:

Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Jee Khalsa Dhadrianwale (Gurdwara Parmeshar Dwar Saahib Patiala) of Sree Nirvair Khalsa Dal (Jatha Dhadrian) has never compared himself to Brehamgianee Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Jee Khalsa Bhindranwale or claimed, as the Indian Media have propagated in newspapers such as the Tribune, "an incarnation of Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale". This is all rumour. Sant Dhadrianwale openly does the Jeevan Vichaar of Sant Jarnail Singh Ji in India and abroad (as can be seen in the hundreds of live Diwaan recordings) and recognises Sant Jarnail Singh Jee as one of the greatest Sant Mahapurkhs to ever walk on this planet.

Dhaas hopes this will clear any misunderstandings and rumour.

Vaheguroo Jee Kaa Khalsa, Vaheguroo Jee Kee Phateh!!!

u seem like ur his personal bodyguard or somthing brv chill out

fateh

well yeah think wat u gotta cuz ur a wimp

..showing your true colours my dear indian gulam ji

..personally i don't give hoots about what you think

..i'm not going to waste my time by aruging with a you, you have accepted gulami and now you are a chaker of india

i aint gulam for crap lol n im affraid u didnt read all of my quote huh pick and choose huh o yeah all u fanatics do that chalo teek ya but

all im sayin is u choose to be gulam for no reasn lol whats hapnin now in panjab lol u joka ur sitting at home and u say ur gulam u got ur computer and say what u want are u gulam etc etc lol i no for a fact im not and o yeah my tru colours are the ones of the khalsa guru gobind singh ji created but urs is of this land that divides the panth and fills it with hatred lol well done u internet freedom fighter

....good points but i don't think many of the fools will want to understands

lol what a joke i cant even be bothered to reply to that crap lol the argument for khalistan has no leg to stand on (the country)

all i no is majority of the panth isnt for khalistan but only like ten people are, even ask the gorey sikhs for their views for khalistan they will laugh and think na not for the khalsa panth.... what is the diffrence of u hardcore fanatic khalistanis to the jews and the palestinians fighting for land but i no 1 thing maharaj made the khalsa diffrnt to all or these puppets, instead if fighting for land we should focus on our familys and friends who are drifting from sikhi and our girls getn converted, but no ulot decide to fight for ur virtual state on the net and all talk, what will become of our gurdwarey in india? can we afford any more religious shrines lost huh and most of all ulot giv it 10 on the net and at hyde park but what are ulot actually doing? lol what a joke may vaheguru bless u narrow minded fanatics and make u realise vahegurus naam is most important, i mean i no u fantaics would rather listen to khalistani jagowale songs rather than do ur nitnem lol well done the truth hurts ulot so carry on dwelling on the past and go against guru jis hukam END OF :TH:

GURFATEH

that is truly amazin the best ones

lol lets make khalistan in photoshop .......

lol true say its the onli way we can make it

lol thats just sad

are you dumb raaj karega khalsa WILL hapen listen WILL WILL WILL lol and orcourse all the shaheedian havnt gone to waste all we are tryin to say is jokers like u sayin we need a country but we dont heloooooooo whos onabout lives going to waste and the gurus never created sikhi for some land in the northof panjab y dont u get it thru ur head it is not sikhi, fighting for land is not sikhi and the khalsa ways because we are attaching ourselves to worldy things, people like sant jarnail singh ji, avtar singh ji brahma they were fighting dusht and against evil AND at the same time if we got our country THEN it would of been ok but maharaj knew wat was good for the panth and we didnt so face the facts the khalsa is used to living threw bad times but they dont dwell on the past, we should never forget any atrocity but we should never dwell on the past. Also what i ask u the khalsa of today we are supposed to be khalsa akal purakh di fauj and look after every human being the way waheguru wants us to, we should see or atleast try and see everyone they way waheguru wants us to so therefore were is the khalsa helping others that cant help themselves eg in utter pardesh wer hindus are killied by musims over religious hatred HUH thats wer YOU khalistani wanabees wil say f**** them hindus, is this the khalsa, or even wen in hderbaad wen the mecca mosque was blown up and injustice happend to vahegurus people where is you khalistani there???? You lot are fanatics just sit down for one second and think would vaheguru want his fauj to have a lil country, when everything is the khalsa anyway.... so just wake up and adapt the tru way of the khalsa, indira kuthi was killed and that tyrant government has gone so just live and practice being a tru khalsa.......

..yh sikhs really need to save the world, just not there selfs (good thoughts) :e:

..and i can see most of your info has come from the most intelligent source (indian media) :TH:

well yeah think wat u gotta cuz ur a wimp who cant even hold a gun lol who said we dont think about our own all u can do is take cheap shots and every person that says india is an agent well done mate lol its great having these narrow minded freaks like urself who CANT face the truth, people like you would say guru arjan dev ji was shaheed for khalistan lol the country the little land up north which will never go as a country... also u give it ten go india and live at taksal for 7 months and live at the dal panth i can proudly say i have at my young age and lived without my luxurys and lived hard although it was onli 7 months but i still wanted to do it instead of sitin on my computer talkin and doing nothing or goin hyde park and coming home lol lol lol u jokers... end of story the truth is the truth u cant take it well done

yeah the khalsa dont need no country and what the hell u onabout you hurt urself by banging ur head against a wall... well duh u would lol end of the day truth hurts ulot cant take the truth lol lol

...yh khalsa dont need no country, all the kurbani done by sikhs was waste of time, if khalsa dont need a country why we need a flag, we should stop waving nishan shaib and have teranga instead

..we always say raaj krage khalsa, this should also be taken out of ardass

...you are right that i cant take the truth, that we have sikhs who challenge the authority of akal thakt

are you dumb raaj karega khalsa WILL hapen listen WILL WILL WILL lol and orcourse all the shaheedian havnt gone to waste all we are tryin to say is jokers like u sayin we need a country but we dont heloooooooo whos onabout lives going to waste and the gurus never created sikhi for some land in the northof panjab y dont u get it thru ur head it is not sikhi, fighting for land is not sikhi and the khalsa ways because we are attaching ourselves to worldy things, people like sant jarnail singh ji, avtar singh ji brahma they were fighting dusht and against evil AND at the same time if we got our country THEN it would of been ok but maharaj knew wat was good for the panth and we didnt so face the facts the khalsa is used to living threw bad times but they dont dwell on the past, we should never forget any atrocity but we should never dwell on the past. Also what i ask u the khalsa of today we are supposed to be khalsa akal purakh di fauj and look after every human being the way waheguru wants us to, we should see or atleast try and see everyone they way waheguru wants us to so therefore were is the khalsa helping others that cant help themselves eg in utter pardesh wer hindus are killied by musims over religious hatred HUH thats wer YOU khalistani wanabees wil say f**** them hindus, is this the khalsa, or even wen in hderbaad wen the mecca mosque was blown up and injustice happend to vahegurus people where is you khalistani there???? You lot are fanatics just sit down for one second and think would vaheguru want his fauj to have a lil country, when everything is the khalsa anyway.... so just wake up and adapt the tru way of the khalsa, indira kuthi was killed and that tyrant government has gone so just live and practice being a tru khalsa.......

you no what these people dont have a clue about anything how can u bone iddles say that people that dont want a country khalistan are not sikhs u fools the majority of sikhs DONT want khalistan as a country eg the people that tend to follow sikhi propa in a orthodox way such as the gorey sikhs they dont want khalistan as a country and that isnt important for them but what is important is getting one with akaal not saying o if u dont want khalistan ur not sikh, i say who tha hell are YOU to judge mate... like i said u give it 10 on ur computers go and do somthing urself if ur so jugdemental and for it lol....

..i dont think some people will ever understand the need of khalistan

one think come to mind is that ,

you only hurt urself by banging ur head against a wall

yeah the khalsa dont need no country and what the hell u onabout you hurt urself by banging ur head against a wall... well duh u would lol end of the day truth hurts ulot cant take the truth lol lol

there will always be people who would put forward all sorts of arguments on why we don't need khalistan.

but i would say that its sad that most of those people call them self sikhs

khalistan is a must, and i hope it will be created in the near future.

you no what these people dont have a clue about anything how can u bone iddles say that people that dont want a country khalistan are not sikhs u fools the majority of sikhs DONT want khalistan as a country eg the people that tend to follow sikhi propa in a orthodox way such as the gorey sikhs they dont want khalistan as a country and that isnt important for them but what is important is getting one with akaal not saying o if u dont want khalistan ur not sikh, i say who tha hell are YOU to judge mate... like i said u give it 10 on ur computers go and do somthing urself if ur so jugdemental and for it lol....

i believe that people in india or in the UK or anywhere are not being educated, but brainwashed and views and opinions are being imposed especially on the Sikh youth, what the panth needs to do now is to look into the future, not to dwell in the past. If Sahib Shri Akali Nihung Guru Gobind Singh Ji had dwelt in the past e.g. the shaheedi or Guru Arjun Dev Ji and the Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib ji, Maharaj would have annihilated the all muslims, but no, maharaj fought against adharam (tyranny and oppression) Indira was killed, Rajiv died a dogs death, now what we need to do is yes fight for an apology from the indian government, but most importantly we need to focus our energies more into how we can help the community, our sikh girls are being converted into other faiths and why? because Gurudwaras and the panth isnt educating the youth on their religions morrals, but in fact todays youth is being tought to fight for khalistan. Maharaj Guru Gobind Singh Ji knew when to back out of a battle which was nearly undefeatable, e.g. the battle at Anandpur. We as sikhs need to adopt that ideology of maharaj and learn that fair enough what has happened in the past has hapened, lets not dwindle in it forever, but lets learn from our flaws and be more alert for the future.

Look the mughals oppressed the Sikhs in the times of the Gurus but you dont see the community spreading hatred towards Muslims.

Khalistan isnt something that will be built overnight it will take decades to establish, if you try to take khalistan by force from India, with whome will khalistan have economical ties with, look at the war between India and Pakistan, khalistan will be made a battlefield if god forbid something like that happens. Khalistan will need its own government, economy, currency, ports etc. Look gurudwaras have fights every year when deciding which comity should govern the gurudwara, and this is just within small establishments, imagine what will happen if we had jokers like them fighting for who will run khalistan. It aint easy. my only concern is that instead of dwelling in the past the panth should invest in the future (ie youth) and thats not by brainwashing them to hate the Indian government. If this is what it has come to then khalistani's are no better than extremist Muslim clerics who preach about jihad and hating the Americans. in a way this is what is happening in our faith. we need to stop living in the past but concentrate on the future, e.g. teaching our people more about the important issues such as eliminating the caste system within the punjabi community and the importance of amrit and kes, these are the important issues, which need to be addressed. im not saying that what happened in 84 should be forgotten, but we need to now put it at the back of our minds and concentrate on the future of sikhi.

btw khalistan will be established, but if you think of it it doesnt have to be a country called khalistan. Khalistan means a place where everyone is equal. When india becomes a country which denounces the hindu caste system and treats all as equals khalistan will be established. plus Sahib Shri Akali Nihung Guru Gibind Singh Ji said that when 1600 singhs are on the world khalistan will be established. now yyou must all be thinking there are thousands of singhs, but out of those thousands how many are amritdhari and follow reit properly???????

akkkaaalllll sat sri akalll gur bar akalll dheg tegh fateh to all the fanatics read this post above exactly OUR point not MY point but the truth :TH:

LOL LOL LOL

..first of all i did not write anything funny so i dont know why u seem to laugh

am i on about the 80's NO im on about here and now this day in panjab where people just want to live, work, and come over to better countrys. As for your so called 80's trend people had started to come over decades before the 80's.

..read what i have written carefully

Also yeah your right u dnt need to gve an explanation for what your doing for khalistan thats a question you should ask your self cuz it dnt seem to be working...

..u know this because

or shal i say handing out leaflets or goin to hyde park for 20 or 21 years will definatly never work,

...what would you suggest

ur never gona go there t live.

..you must be a jotish to know the future

:devil: :umm: :umm: :umm: all this stuff bout khalistan number 1 i no because nothing is being done number 2 forget what i suggest cuz i dont care about a lil land and number 3 it is funny cuz ulot give it so much on the computers ready to pounce on who ever isnt for khalistan so go on answer me a question what will hapen to our takhts and other parts of india? Also ur givin it the large about singhs in there past with our raaj BUT they actually done somthing went out and faught not sit at home and say khalistan zindabaad, face it what guru nanak dev ji maharaj and guru gobind singh ji maharaj said that is whats gonna happen not this sikh federation fanatic khalistan, the khalistan movent was dead the day the kharkoo jathebandia in 1991 decided NOT to take part in the panjab elections so face it live ur sikhi not some khalistan motivated sikhi....... lol

u wanna do something? take over the world economically...goto schoool, get an education...become as rich as you can...and then my friend money will talk

:devil: :umm: :umm: What are you onabout? lol u goin on a virtual one again lol

so what are YOU doing for the beloved khalistan... yeah ok we need it here but there is the place to be , and the people are not in fear they just want to live and work for their familys and 99% of the sikhs in panjab want to come over to the west LIKE ALL of our familys.. so heres a question for people who are eager for khalistan WOULD YOU GO AND LIVE THERE IF IT WAS EVER ESTABLISHED? ermmmmmmm i dont think so cuz we are use to living tha high life over here and sitin on our computers

..dude listen the comment about 99% youth want to come to west,do u know why

..this trend started in more or less in 80's and we all know why was that, sikhs did come to west before then that and that was to look for jobs.

..the indian government tried to destroy sikh economically first, there were many acts introduced which targeted the sikh community(one of them being that punjab cant have any major industry)

..and i don't need to give you any explanation of what I'm doing to achieve the goal of khalistan

...and to say the least i'm not being a obstacle in creation of khalistan

LOL LOL LOL am i on about the 80's NO im on about here and now this day in panjab where people just want to live, work, and come over to better countrys. As for your so called 80's trend people had started to come over decades before the 80's. Also yeah your right u dnt need to gve an explanation for what your doing for khalistan thats a question you should ask your self cuz it dnt seem to be working... or shal i say handing out leaflets or goin to hyde park for 20 or 21 years will definatly never work, plus no ones an obstacle for khalistan to be made its just the facts are harsher than they seem. The main thing is we cant do with anymore sikh bloodshed we cant do with f ed up partitions cuz our familys here will not suffer in panjab they will, why cant ya people just live ur sikhi n meet the true goal in life, instead u choose u want land, which if made ur never gona go there t live. A question WILL KHALISTAN GIVE US MUKHTEE? and IF MADE WHAT WILL HAPEN TO OUR GURDWAREY IN OTHER PARTS OF INDIA EG HAZOOR SAHIB OUR TAKHTS? since when did the khalsa fight for his own rights...

so what are YOU doing for the beloved khalistan... yeah ok we need it here but there is the place to be , and the people are not in fear they just want to live and work for their familys and 99% of the sikhs in panjab want to come over to the west LIKE ALL of our familys.. so heres a question for people who are eager for khalistan WOULD YOU GO AND LIVE THERE IF IT WAS EVER ESTABLISHED? ermmmmmmm i dont think so cuz we are use to living tha high life over here and sitin on our computers

..dude listen the comment about 99% youth want to come to west,do u know why

..this trend started in more or less in 80's and we all know why was that, sikhs did come to west before then that and that was to look for jobs.

..the indian government tried to destroy sikh economically first, there were many acts introduced which targeted the sikh community(one of them being that punjab cant have any major industry)

..and i don't need to give you any explanation of what I'm doing to achieve the goal of khalistan

...and to say the least i'm not being a obstacle in creation of khalistan

LOL LOL LOL am i on about the 80's NO im on about here and now this day in panjab where people just want to live, work, and come over to better countrys. As for your so called 80's trend people had started to come over decades before the 80's. Also yeah your right u dnt need to gve an explanation for what your doing for khalistan thats a question you should ask your self cuz it dnt seem to be working... or shal i say handing out leaflets or goin to hyde park for 20 or 21 years will definatly never work, plus no ones an obstacle for khalistan to be made its just the facts are harsher than they seem. The main thing is we cant do with anymore sikh bloodshed we cant do with f ed up partitions cuz our familys here will not suffer in panjab they will, why cant ya people just live ur sikhi n meet the true goal in life, instead u choose u want land, which if made ur never gona go there t live. A question WILL KHALISTAN GIVE US MUKHTEE? and

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

We have been discussing about khalistan for many years now... But, Indian government is not at all concered about giving sikhs their separate nation... The purpose of this thread is to fasten our efforts for getting khalistan... indian government is just forgetting it... we people are doing parchar about khalistan on net through various websites... but, no one of us is speaking about khalistan freely in india... and in this way, we are losing our rights... i think now is time to do something , otherwise , it will be too late for sikhs to act... i ask all of you to give your opinions on what next step we should take in this direction... i think now we should stop saving ourself from indian government and we should speak freely for khalistan... or adopt bhagat singh policy... i mean, throw a fuki bomb and start shouting " khalistan zindabad" so that we can re-activate this struggle. i may be wrong in this method....but something has to be done ifffff we really want khalistan or is it going to be a virtual state....?

Please reply

gurfateh ji

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everyones all talk about khalistan but no action your right its ALWAYS gna be a virtual state nothing else

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The idea of khalistan in not new when akal Thakt was established for Sikhs, a flag was created for Sikhs it declared a separate nation

..when siri guru gobind singh lived in andapur ,the law of the time (muguls) didn't apply. which clearly means that there was some kind of sovereignty

so please stop saying why we need khalistan....

...and people who say that nobody in punjab care about khalistan.

..all i can say is fear

so what are YOU doing for the beloved khalistan... yeah ok we need it here but there is the place to be , and the people are not in fear they just want to live and work for their familys and 99% of the sikhs in panjab want to come over to the west LIKE ALL of our familys.. so heres a question for people who are eager for khalistan WOULD YOU GO AND LIVE THERE IF IT WAS EVER ESTABLISHED? ermmmmmmm i dont think so cuz we are use to living tha high life over here and sitin on our computers

I hate to say this, but its just a waste of time and energy talking to fools.

This has been discussed many times before, so if anyone wants to know more about the arguments for or against Khalsa raj, i suggest they look it up.

Close this topic please.

Fateh.

lol :devil: :umm: o ok we are fools apart from you.. what cant u take other peoples views and the truth lol chalo fateh ji close this post som people are getting offended... so is this the khalsa guru ji created hmmmmmmm

Pwala

remember that to stand you need land. You seem to think that we can float around in the air or something that we dont need land. Of course we need land. Remember that the hill chiefs wanted Guru Ji to vacate Anandpur, but Guru Ji refused. Why? it was only land and Guru Ji wasnt going to take it to sachkand with him was he? Why didnt he just give up?

didnt this narrow the potential of the Sikhs? Why didnt Guru Ji just say dont worry one day we'll take the world? History tells us time and time again that land is necessary and control of it is vital. Why did the Sikh misals create Sikh rule? Why did Baba Deep Singh take control of an area in Panjab? Is your reasoning greater than Baba Ji's? or your avastha ? maybe you're right and the blessed Gursikhs are wrong?

chatanga

ps i dont hate the word hindustan, i just love the word khalistan. and also listen to the sermons of Sant Jarnail Singh to realise how the Sikhs have never received the most basic human birthright under ravan raaj hindustan, namely the right of freedom.

again brv we ask u are giving examples of such great gursikhs yeah BUT theres a but, What are YOU doing for this khalistan you love and fight for over the computer, sant ji was there on the front line and u can say what u want to me but i dont go round givin it the large about somthing i cant achieve because i no i havnt got asmuch kamayee and jeevans like them so until then i have told my self to keep quite until the day comes where i no i can open my mouth IF guru ji does kirpa

Waheguroo ji ka khalsa, waheguroo ji ki fateh

I hate this word, KHALISTAN!

Ok Shasheed Singhs have fought for it, but thing is mahraj has blessed us so much but yet we are so narrow minded.

The word Khalisatan for me narrows the potential which the KHALSA actually have.

'Man Jite Jag Jit' Now this is what we have been offered the world, so until we don’t control our minds then we need to carry on doing the things we are doing like Amrit wela, Naam abhiyaas and Gurbani Abhiyaas keep strict Rehit, and make the place you live Khalistan, the land of the pure.

Don’t forget the KHALSA will have raaj over the world, so don’t worry about raaj lets just concentrate on our jeevan.

We are not AZAAD (free) even when we have this land we will still not be AZAAD as we are controlled by the 5 evils.

Waheguroo ji ka khalsa, waheguroo ji ki fateh

Dude, its not that hard to see through your fairytales and this view that everyone should be able to control their minds first (which will never really happen, who actually believes and says "ive controlled my panj chors?"), its actually the most foolish thing to believe. All you need is a few chardi kala Gursikhs to complete the mission. And how can you be content with japping naam all day when your brothers are rotting in the jails of Hindustan? Japping naam and not turning that naam into action is hypocrisy, its being selfish, and its definately not the Sikh way.

Raj all over the world? Haha, Sikhs dont even control Sri Akal Takht anymore, and youre talking about raj all over the world. Be realistic and start by setting small goals (ie; khalistan). Without political autonomy, nothing can ever be achieved, Guru Sahib told us exactly that.

Anyways, no one has seemed to explain why Guru Sahib sent Banda Singh Ji Bahadur to Punjab to establish the Sikh raj.

Fateh.

LOL LOL so what have u done then for ur brothers in the jails... brv its easy to say than do and about raaj over the world read the karni namma by guru nanak dev maharaj and the signs leading up to kalki avtar and khalsa raaj over the duniya, and also and about being content try a little harder jus like our mothers did when there babys wer getting choped up infront of them thats how u be content not like the so called khalsa of today who would leave naam jus to dwell on hindustan jails, so either get up and do somthing or sit at home and focus on your inner strength and soul so it reaches vaheguru dnt forget every thing is hukam.... lol

fateh