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    Touching someone´s feet out of respect, is a mark of humility, trying to say that I am as low as your feet ..... Secondly, no real Saint will ever allow anyone to touch his feet. For he is the embodiment of Truth, so naturally that Truth or blessings which we may seek are not gathered at his feet only. He is so powerful that if he would want to give us anything, he can do it so with his drishtee also, or even 7 seas far away, yet he can give us whatever he may want to, for he being a saint is above all parameteres of time and space. It is we ordinary and limited people, thatwe think by getting nearer and falling at that the feet of a true saint, we can get his blessings. Things do not work like that in spirituality. He who is a true saint, a bhagat, are rare, but that does not they do no exist. Just take the examples of our Guru Sahiban, outwardly they looked like any other human being, but inwardly, they are one with Waheguru Akal Purukh. It is by their grace, we may recognize them, otherwise even by staying under the same roof with them, we may fail to see their true nature. Examples of the sons of First Patshahee, and the 2 elder sons of Fourth Patshahee, though they were Their sons, but did not recognize their Fathers as Akal Purukh Himself. So bowing to someone and touching their feet is nothing more, than actually an act of humility from that person. Regarding the supreme importance of a True Saint in the person of His Father Sree Guru Ram Das, Fifth Patshahee first says: tarikhaa na utrai saant na aavai bin darsan Sant pi-aaray jee-o. My thirst is not quenched, and I can find no peace, without the Blessed Vision of the Beloved Saint. Then He continues saying : bhaag hua Guru Sant milayaa : By good fortune, I have met the Saint Guru. Prabh abhnasee ghar meh paaya : I have found the Immortal Lord within the home of my own self. And these words are not of any ordinary people, but, of our beloved Guru Sahiban, the very embodiment of Waheguru Akal Purukh here on earth as normal and respectful human beings, without displaying any weapons, nor supernatural powers, nor doing any such things which go against the flow of Nature. Nor having shakti as spouse, nor sleeping or laying on Seshnaag, etc etc etc , nothing of that nonsense, but at each and every step and word, stressing upon on Nam/ Satnam, the only Supreme everlasting Truth, to which we should give our love and devotion. Ik Oankar Satnam Satgur parsad jap. This is the essence of sikhee, rest is all Maya and manmat. Stay blessed. Sat Sree Akal.
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    I think it's a lot worse in doaba than other places. Iv been bhatinda and the people there were humble and simple. There houses were simple structures. Everyone you ask where you from in punjab says jalandhar lol so i think those doaba lot have become lazy, spoilt and ungrateful. Maybe it's just in my head lol
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    Harmandir Darbar Shaib will always top the list for me. I have been there once and I felt blessed.I dream about Harmandir Darbar Shaib so definitely want to go again. I would also like to visit Patna Shaib, Hemkund Shaib and Hazur Shaib.
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    First of all Guest Jee, with your answers, you have drifted away from the title of this present thread of the OP, which is about : CAN GURU MAKE US DO SOMETHING THAT WE DIDNT INTENDED TO ? While you have taken it into different direction as per what the Lord can do for us ? Like giving protection to a bhagat, or wash our sins, etc.... So you see, as far as possible we should stick to the topic to avoid any misunderstandings or end mixing up things which have little or nothing to do with the topic of the thread. Secondly, I am not disputing SGGS, I am just clearing the misinterpretations by some, while quoting the Bani. For example, from the post above of brother Akali Fauj in the following 4 verses, let us try to see what it says, especially the one in black: ਗਿਰਿ ਤਰ ਜਲੁ ਜੁਆਲਾ ਭੈ ਰਾਖਿਓ ਰਾਜਾ ਰਾਮਿ ਮਾਇਆ ਫੇਰੀ ॥੩॥ (ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਨੇ ਪ੍ਰਹਿਲਾਦ ਨੂੰ) ਪਹਾੜ, ਰੁੱਖ, ਪਾਣੀ, ਅੱਗ (ਇਹਨਾਂ ਸਭਨਾਂ ਦੇ) ਡਰ ਤੋਂ ਬਚਾ ਲਿਆ ।੩। Prahlaad was thrown off a mountain, into the water, and into a fire, but the Sovereign Lord God saved him, by changing the laws of nature. ||3|| ਕਾਢਿ ਖੜਗੁ ਕਾਲੁ ਭੈ ਕੋਪਿਓ ਮੋਹਿ ਬਤਾਉ ਜੁ ਤੁਹਿ ਰਾਖੈ ॥ (ਹੁਣ ਅੰਦਰੋਂ) ਡਰਿਆ ਹੋਇਆ (ਪਰ ਬਾਹਰੋਂ) ਕੋ੍ਰਧਵਾਨ ਹੋ ਕੇ, ਮੌਤ-ਰੂਪ ਤਲਵਾਰ ਕੱਢ ਕੇ (ਬੋਲਿਆ—) Harnaakhash thundered with rage and threatened to kill Prahlaad. ""Tell me, who can save you?"" *ਪੀਤ ਪੀਤਾਂਬਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਧਣੀ ਥੰਭ ਮਾਹਿ ਹਰਿ ਭਾਖੈ ॥੪॥ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਦੱਸ ਜਿਹੜਾ ਤੈਨੂੰ (ਇਸ ਤਲਵਾਰ ਤੋਂ) ਬਚਾ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈ; (ਅੱਗੋਂ) ਜਗਤ ਦਾ ਮਾਲਕ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ ਵਿਚ ਬੋਲਦਾ ਹੈ ।੪। Prahlaad answered, ""The Lord, the Master of the three worlds, is contained even in this pillar to which I am tied.""||4|| ਹਰਨਾਖਸੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਨਖਹ ਬਿਦਾਰਿਓ ਸੁਰਿ ਨਰ ਕੀਏ ਸਨਾਥਾ ॥ ਜਿਸ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਨੇ ਹਰਨਾਖ਼ਸ਼ ਨੂੰ ਨਹੁੰਆਂ ਨਾਲ ਚੀਰ ਦਿੱਤਾ, ਦੇਵਤਿਆਂ ਤੇ ਮਨੁੱਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਢਾਰਸ ਦਿੱਤੀ, The Lord who tore Harnaakhash apart with His nails proclaimed Himself the Lord of gods and men. *There where Prahlad says : the Lord, the master of the 3 worlds is going to save him .... Have we ever asked to ourselves about what are those 3 worlds which he refers to? Well, these 3 worlds are 3 regions, planes, or levels of consciousness within the realms of Maya and Brahm. These 3 planes are: the physical or material plane, the astral plane, and the causal plane. Beyond these are the planes of pure spirituality, out of the reach of Maya, Brahm and Kal, which is why Waheguru is also known as Paree Puran Parbrabhm Parmatma., for He is beyiond the reach of maya..... And to this one eternal Truth, Lord, God, Creator, I always mention, to whom we must give our love and devotion, for He, as the Bani says: Ekas bin sabh dandh hae. Apart from this one Waheguru, every other thing, entities...are nothing but: maya, brahm, temporary, false ... So brother Guest Jee, do you still think I am disputing SGGS Jee? The example of Prahlad, is just a katha, an inspiration for us by Guru Jee to start understanding the higher truths of Akal Purukh. Just as children play with battery operated police cars, aeroplanes or helicopters, etc, which are not real as such, but they play a role in preparing us for the real life once grown as adults. Going back to your example of Prahlad, let us see some more facts about it: In the Hindu dharma, there is story whree the father(Harnakash) is set up to destroy his own son (Prahlad) for being a devotee of Lord Vishnu. But such was his belief and faith in Vishnu, that in spite of the outrageous boons and powers granted to Harnakash, that Sree Vishnu Jee took the avatar of Narashima to save him abnd destry his father. And as we all know, Sree Vishnu Jee is one of the trinity gods, which if we ponder a little bit, has nothing to do with the real True Lord God : Ik Oankar Satnam as mentioned by Guru Sahiban, and it is to this very Truth Guru Jee in each ang, tells us to give our faith and love only, none else. We as sikhs, should never ever get impresssed by the forms and powers of any entities or trinities, gods, devtays, and take them as equal to the one Waheguru Akal Purukh. He alone, He is. Stay blessed. Sat Sree Akal.
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    The only profoundly ignorant, are indeed those, who mistakenly or ignorantly take the avtars/incarnations of Vishnu Jee as those of Waheguru Akal Purukh. Our Guru Sahiban, are the real manifestations of Waheguru Akal Purukh. Waheguru has nothing to do with the mayavee Lord/Master of the 3 worlds, as seen in the verses above. He is the highest, and if you or anybody can not see the differences of the mayavee incarnations and the ones of our beloved Guru Sahiban, just look at their lives and their teachings. What to say of that of one Man Lion incarntion of Vishnu, there can be millions, or billions, of all the different incarnations of trinties and gods, and even all united on one side, but none are match to anyone of Guru Sahiban or Waheguru. People induced by manmat and maya, fail to recognize Waheguru as the Highest, who has nothing to do with any Krishna, Sree Ram, Buddha, Shiva, Brahma, Vishnu, Hanuman, etc, devis, devtays. Many as said, mistakenly take these incarnations as ultimate God, but thanks to First Patshahee in the very begining of Sree Guru Granth Sahib, and with His Kirpa, if anybody reads what the Mool mantar says, one can only then see the differences between Waheguru and the mayavee incarnations displaying powers, not otherwise. Sat Sree Akal.
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    GuestSikh06 Jee, better do not ask any wishes to Him, for does not the Bani say: Bin boliya, sabh kich jaanda. Let us ask ourselves: If He, whom we ask for things, has the power to give, has He not the power to know what we want? It is something to think about seriously. So, if we ever even wanto ask Him for something, let us ask for Him, from Him. For only by having Him, we shall need nothing. While by not having Him, our greedy mind will keep on asking again and again, and our desires shall never diminish, thus these very desires will keep us entraped in the wheel of births and deaths. And to avoid all that suffering and pain, let us see what Guru Jee tells us in the following 2 verses. ਤੁਮ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਕਰਹੁ ਦਇਆ ਮੇਰੇ ਸਾਈ ॥ Thumh Karahu Dhaeiaa Maerae Saaee || ਐਸੀ ਮਤਿ ਦੀਜੈ ਮੇਰੇ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਤੁਧੁ ਧਿਆਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Aisee Math Dheejai Maerae Thaakur Sadhaa Sadhaa Thudhh Dhhiaaee Here Guru tells us to ask Him for His blessings,in order to be able to meditate on Him, for He is only realized by meditating upon Him, no other karam kaand will ever bring us closer to Him, or in the end to merge and become one with Him. Guru Jee´s wisdom has to be faithfully applied as ointmnent on our mental eyes, only then can our spiritual sight can be restored to have His Darshan. Stay blessed. Sat Sree Akal.
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    "Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." - Unknown "Peace begins with a smile." - Mother Teresa "Life is a process. We are a process. The universe is a process." - Anne Schaef "You may only be someone in the world, but to someone else, you may be the world." - Unknown "The smallest act of kindness is worth more than the grandest intention." - Oscar Wilde "There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self." - Aldous Huxley "Practice yourself, for heavens sake in little things, and then proceed to greater." - Epictetus "Joy is the best makeup." - Anne Lamott "Don't wait for your feelings to change to take the action. Take the action and your feelings will change." - Barbara Baron
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    Yeah there is a part where you can speak to Vaheguru Ji, Its when you say Sache Pita Vaheguru Ji Aap de Hazur...(whatever you want to say) At that time you can say what prayer you just did too. Although you don't really need to because Vaheguru Ji knows everyone's inner thoughts anyway. This is probably the worst explanation ever but hoped it helped
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfF8jMN-2CM
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    just saw this on youtube lol hes actually really good nice song as well. it looks like southall ...
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    theres this gori at my work place and she basically can see things which normal people can't see! and she said that there are several dimensions in this world, so there are many other things living here but we just can't see them because our senses are limited, we can only see what our senses allow us to see/sense we can't see beyond our senses. but she can see demons and angels and all sorts of other things! she said she's been seeing them since she was a little girl as far back as she can remember. she said/believes that we all have been here before/ reincarnation, but before we are born again they destroy our memory so we can't remember our previous life! she said she's been there and seen it all haha! no joke ! she said our creator is inside us and everywhere, she also told me how everything that exists and that has existed is inside us too.
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    Yeah I read how people do japji sahib on each step. Yeah in khadur sahib they have the actual baradari from where guru angad dev ji used to do parchhar they also have the well from where mata kiwi used water to prepare langar. Iv never been but id love to go and see those things. Have you been down a baoli before and then back up lol? I been up and down the one at the qila at anandpur sahib and I couldn't feel my legs by the end of it lol my legs were actually shaking lol when I reached the top I just collapsed and sat there for about 5 mins lol
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    Omg haha I remember that this song was huge. Babbu Mann ended up becoming a bit of a weirdo too. I remember when he started dissing Ranjit Singh dhandrianwala haha! He said something like how guru Nanak waked during his travels while today's babeh travel around in cars with red flashing beacons lol he even made a diss song lol
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    Yeah I think if you've been around freshys then you are familiar with their ways, but if you ain't been around many then you see them as innocent, simple and all the other bs. Even here a lot of the students from Punjab get up to all sorts of things. Yeah your right that freshys think British punjabis are thick, my cousin sister in punjab even told me that, she said NRIs are dumb while girls from Punjab are clever, and she took a lot of pride in that lol Thing with freshys is that the way of life in India is "hira pheri" everything they want, plan, arrange, it's all done through hira pheri, hera pheri is seen as the only way things can get done. Their minds are corrupt to the peak, there is absolutely no piety or sikhi in those people. They are as self centred as one can get. But people abroad are now getting smarter and clocking freshys. Our parents are also now clocking freshys too. Tragically there are a few naive British men who still see Punjabi girls as the shy, coy 1950s Punjabi housewife, who covers her head with a chunni and has food prepared for him when he comes back from work.
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    Gurbani is perfectly logical.. It may appear to some that it is like some existential poetry expression. Except gurbani is unique because it is not reductive.. It expresses existential, philosophical truths whilst at the same time being absolutely clear in its expression. Any phrase someone could take from bani is true and I have yet to see a example that is not logical
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    Head trauma is such a broad term. It' means nothing. If I smacked you in the head you too would technically have head trauma. We don't know the severity of this boys injuries but that's irrelevant since all he did with his pag is cushioned the boys head. As I said before he would have accomplished that far better with his bare hands. I might have understood if, for example, the boy had a major bleed which needed stopping. Not only was removing his pag unecessary, it was plane daft.
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    I will have to agree with veer Chatanga as these puratan saroops themselves are not consistent in the manner Gurbani was scribed. It seems that the overzealous writers of this "news" article did not have all the facts on hand when they put this article together. The truth is that pretty much 100% Saroops printed or scribed today do not have the same text and lagga-matra as the original Damdami Birr. Contrary to all the claims by various Sikh institutions, it is an accepted fact that the Panth no longer has in it's possession the original Damdami Birr or a direct copy of it. Despite the fact that Sikhs are the only people that considers their scriptures as "Guru", as a Panth, we have no system or procedures to check for the accuracy of the text that is either written or published as a saroop of Guru Granth Sahib Ji. In the past much of the blame of this carelessness had been thrown on Nirmala and Udasee scribes of the 18th and 19th century - some of it unfairly since it was the Panth's duty to independently verify the accuracy of this seva. Consider the manner how the Jewish Torah, which Jews do not even consider as their Guru, is precisely handwritten and exhaustibly reviewed for accuracy and can be invalidated even if a single error is made in the text. Does this mean Jews have more respect for the Torah than we have for Guru Granth Sahib Ji? At least it seems like it in all practicality. Sadly, most handwritten saroops and published saroops contain hundreds of variations and differences in the Gurbani text and lagga-matra. Nothing is ever done about it, in fact, in due time, those saroops themselves become the source for text when new Saroops are written or published. At a Panthic level, no effort has being made to identify and preserve the original Gurbani text and lagga-matra, except by the late Bhai Joginder Singh Talwara, along with Vedanti Ji who spent more than 20 years researching puratan Saroops - many of them have since perished due to the 1984 attack and general neglect. Additionally, no effort has been made to implement fruits of their invaluable research. More than 50 years ago, Udasai Harnam Daas (formerly known as the Budha Dal Nihang Naurang Singh, who compiled and standardized Sarabloh Granth after years of researching Sri Dasam Bani and Guru Granth Sahib Ji's Bani), finally concluded that the the not only was the Kartarpuri Birr (currently with the Sodhi family) not the original Birr but that he had not come across an accurately scribed Saroop of Guru Granth Sahib in all the years of his research. The ardously compiled "Paatth Bhedan Dee Soochee" by Bhai Randhir Singh (SGPC Research Scholar), Giani Kundan Singh, and and Bhai Gian Singh Nihang illustrates the wide differences of text across the widely known puratan Saroops housed by the Panth. The sad truth is nothing is being done to solve this most serious dilemma. In the digital media, these inaccuracies are now being imported into Gurbani search engines, and mobile apps and thus the errors continue to proliferate exponentially.. Instead of blaming each other, fighting over petty issues, perhaps the priority of the Panth should be to revive the research to standardize on the most "sudh" printing of the Damdami Saroop - shabd by shabd, akhar by akhar, lagga-matra by lagga matra. Guru bakshish karay!


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