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  1. any person who has been stupid enough to complain about how barbaric and how we should let the authorities deal with justice and punishment I have come back with the point that if you side with the GOI and police then you should be ashamed of yourself because by your words and thought process you would think Baba Deep Singh ji was wrong , Bhai Sukha Singh ji and Bhai Mehtab Singh ji were wrong , even Guru Gobind Singh ji were wrong for killing people who did beadbhi . Also waiting for justice from the people paying for the crimes to be committed is mentally deranged. Good, people are no
    6 points
  2. The BJP and indian media are spinning this to be a dalit hate crime....completely ridiculous. The fauja are by and large made up of Mazabi Singhs (Dalits). The fauja don't live in fear of the corrupt law, they answer to a higher authority. They own very little and don't have the same economic considerations when taking these kinds of actions. Another thing, that lakbir mentioned there were a total of 20 of them hired to instigate and cause beadbi, im sure the remaining 19 won't want to carry through now. This beadbi trend is out of control simply beacause we have a huge tolerance level. Why th
    6 points
  3. Our Belief creates our reality. Its true now and after we die( actually we never die since energy changes form, we are shape shifters). Due to the factor of time on earth physical manifestation takes time. Repeated thoughts and focus create reality faster. Since there is only one of us Unity consciousness. Separation is an illusion. After the process called death we first realize we are not the body, next we experience what we hold in our mind (beliefs). At some stage when mind is purged with all the acquired beliefs we proceed to mergence and experience oneness(our true nature)
    6 points
  4. He's a predator and an abuser. The case of him breaking the jaw of my friend as part of the "punj pyare " is well known. I also know the bhenji who's husband helped one of Sukhas sexual abuse victims. Benti to Sukhas defenders/fanboys: if you still wish to associate with Sukha, fine, go for it. But for the love of God I beg of you, keep your kids away from him. Your children should not need to suffer because of your blind ignorance .
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  5. As I've said for a while, if you've got kids or nephews and nieces of a certain age, foisting them onto others in a religious camp for a few days isn't going to turn them into little gianis. Keep them away from those places because you'll get religious predators making it their first port of call. There's probably a reason they're called a CAMP. If you're British you'll know. The clue is in the name.
    6 points
  6. Promotion of promiscuity, inter-religious marriage of a minority group’s women is an ideal way of obliterating their demographic growth and leading to eventual assimilation. Bollywood loves to show sikh women with turbaned fathers and brothers falling in love with hindu men through daily soaps and films. There was an outcry from the left-media in India when that Kashmiri sikh girl was rescued from her pedo muslim neighbour who had been eyeing/grooming he since she was 14 ! What this Simrin Kaur has sung is not exactly the smoothest way of confronting this social danger, but nonetheless, i
    6 points
  7. https://www.sikhhelpline.com/bullying-the-tragic-story-of-a-sikh-boy/ The Tragic Story Of A 13 Year Boy – Bullying Kills! superadmin 15th July 2014 bullying Monday: my money was taken. Tuesday: names called. Wednesday: my uniform torn. Thursday: my body pouring with blood. Friday: it’s ended. Saturday: freedom. These are the final diary pages of Vijay Singh. Read his true story…. One in ten students said that they had suffered severe bullying which included physical violence. Most of them felt they cannot share their problems and the consistent b
    5 points
  8. Beadbiyaan have been occurring for 5-6 years but never a beadbi took place in a gurdwara controlled by nihangs. Nihangs need some minor improvement. They shud control our gurdwaras. Dhan Dhan Sarbloh Guru Darbaar!
    5 points
  9. The last thing that needs to happen in India today is for a Dalit or anyone else of similar status to be killed at the hands of a Sikh. If a vulnerable, desperate person is being paid off by higher powers to instigate bother and strife in order to besmirch Sikhs, the victim is always going to be the poor sod roped into the scheme as a patsy. IF this is a devious plan to smear Sikhs, then the people who organised it have got exactly what they wanted. On the other hand - and I say this with some reservation - the Singhs did what they had to do, and in that junglee country what they did was
    5 points
  10. Come on guys lets not derail this important thread.There are many other threads dealing with that subject and you can carry on there if it's really necessary.Just because Niddar Singh is affiliated with the RSS it doesn't mean everything he does has an RSS agenda angle.Most probably he is familiar with this issue and is supporting as a person because he believes in the allegations as do so many others currently. Focus on the victims and what they are saying.It's not easy for them to come out like this in public especially for males.The least we can do is to not start wild conspiracy theor
    5 points
  11. Kareena suit,lehnga,mehndi,jewellery,bollywood wedding fantasy,maiyan,jago,dancing,singing,"family izzat",relatives acceptance. Another theory could be 'Ziddi'-who the hell are you people to stop me,I will do what I want and this is what I want,I'm going to do it whether you like it or not,try to stop me you backwards fundamentalist,sexist,misogynist,chauvinist! Something like that.
    5 points
  12. Just an attention seeker Best to ignore
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  13. Where were all the other Sikh organisations/Gurdwara committees? No where, worse than useless, they all knew. In fact, some were involved in the cover up. It took a bibi from Canada to bring this stuff to light. Gurdev Nihang Nidar Singh Ji was one of the only people who stood squarely behind the victim in full support. And bhenji, I hope you're not implying that we should doubt the credibility of the accusations simply because Nidar Singh Ji is supporting and helping the victim (a task which no other Sikh organisation did)? I'm not sure how much experience you've had with abuse of a
    5 points
  14. strongly whole-hearty disagree ... domestics sexual all kinds of abuse within families or other environments esp for kids , DO NOT report hence and when they do most cases are found without proof
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  15. After having read through various reports and things since yesterday, the biggest mark or doubt against this issue is the involvement of the Kaur Movement. I would never ignore or downplay allegations of this nature, but from what I've read since yesterday, that particular aforementioned organisation doesn't inspire confidence. Generally, it doesn't negate how many of these NRI Sikh personalities are jostling for some sort of prominence and status. It's strange how much of the Panthic scene away from the faux-spiritually serene act played out for the gullible sangat is full of calcu
    5 points
  16. You are such an incorrigible troll at times.
    5 points
  17. Absolutely even after so many terrorist attacks they manage to get more converts than us whereas our people keep spending sangats money on any random person other than Sikhs themselves and we still cant convince people. They think we are just free food religion. You are not going to get people to accept your religion by being too nice and dancing bhangra which is quite evident from people converting to islam. Our people need to write books, come up with ways to be relatable to non sikhs. I mean we still fight over the translations of sggs into english how are we going to convince others. There
    5 points
  18. I have noticed on this forum, I do not go on others, people more interested in the news rather than spiritual threads. I thought the whole point of a Sangat was deal and help our spirituality, but more interested in news thread, there was even a thread about Guru Nanak Ji fist Shabad and you allowed someone to say dogs b....... , VID-20210919-WA0000.mp4
    5 points
  19. India is going to keep chugging along with its large middle class and small upper class enjoying the fruits of cheap labour supplied by the massive lower class. Only thing that will disrupt this is war with china and pakistan or a catastrophic disease. We need to focus on Punjab’s economy, which directly influences 70% of the total Sikh population. Got to transition out of agriculture/ pind life and urbanize. Stop looking towards government jobs and concentrate on business and higher education with economic focus, not just useless degrees. Ludhiana and Jallundar are ideal for creating a m
    4 points
  20. I cannot see the original thread ! I agree it seems cruel, but as @dalsingh101or @MisterrSinghmentioned, it sent a clear message to anyone thinking doing beadbi which would have happened if this Lakhbir was treated leniently. What punishment do you think would have been better? Do you think the Nihungs should be doing langar seva instead for these types ?
    4 points
  21. A guy named Kamalpreet who is known on social media for making videos. He is also the one who spoke so much against the vaccine that many actually believed him. Sadly, there are many Gurmukhs who attended his marriage are now in ICU and fighting for their life. One of them is known Gurmukh and dynamic force behind Gurmat Bibek is now on ventilator. Few dozen including kids got Covid from that event. please do ardas for bhai kulbir singh ji of Gurmat Bibek.
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  22. I've followed this Ratcliffe case for a while, and it's funny how the English media refuse to entertain the possibility that she may actually be MI6 as the Iranians claim. It's a common intelligence tactic to send their people into hostile countries as NGO or charity personnel specialising in languages, which is what she was doing when she was arrested. People expecting MI6 agents to be 6ft well-built, loner white guys have bought into the Hollywood fantasy.
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  23. They took advantadge of an elderly frail man who was unable to speak and also after the stroke would have found everything overwhelming and distressing due to isolation from friendly family faces and care. Frankly this is elder abuse and should be treated as a case of assault .
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  24. 100 percent. I was reading about the guy and he was a drug addict whose wife and kids left him years ago. We all know addicts do the dumbest stuff to get their next fix. However, what's interesting is that his sister stated that he used to talk on the phone with "higher ups." There is an outfit funding these events.
    4 points
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  26. Amen to all that bro. Amen to that too. Amen to that too. And, those Gurudwara are also run by money and democracy. Reiterate @dallysingh101 we have to start parallel ground level movements. I would add to that, do away with voting and institute representative selections and Panj Pyare, and demonitize as much of the Panth as we can, and instead deal in Seva. We only need so many buildings, and we could substitute rural land holdings for half the ones we do have already. The buildings only have to be so nice. And Langar only costs so much. It should not take much mo
    4 points
  27. Bhai jagraj singh was western too and i think he had much more impact within the past few years than any of the sgpc people. We have bad apples too but then we have enough good apples who can help our community in numerous ways. SGPC and people back home are just sleeping. One problem with us is we do not know how to relate to non sikhs and i dont know why this is.
    4 points
  28. @Kau89r8 This is an interesting and contemporary Persian account of SIkhs written by someone on the Afghan side (From Habib and Grewal's Persian Sources):
    4 points
  29. Plus, white dress makes them look darker, so they like the colors.
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  30. Family pressure also I think in some cases where they marry a Hindu, the family might think it's less likely to be obvious the spouse is not Sikh, and that the Anand Karaj will make up for not marrying an actual Sikh. Gurdwara committees are complicit in this as it's a big source of income. Marrying out is still considered disreputable by many families I know, however
    4 points
  31. Can someone explain to me why the Sikh Anand Karaj is so popular on a purely aesthetic level compared to the Hindu and Muslim marriage rite ceremonies? Why are some Sikh females determined to reject the religious beliefs and norms of their heritage BUT refuse to let go of the actual marriage ceremony regardless of the background of the person they're marrying?
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  32. This topic made me reflect over many decades, and thinking about it, the abuse of males hasn't been uncommon to varying degrees. Growing up like I did, I was always a bit on the wary side for some reason (call it being streetwise and not trusting - probably am even more so now), but on thinking about it, there's been a lot of attempts at grooming males that I'm aware of. For feral kids like I was, it was just another one of those dangers you had to duck and dive around. With Guru ji's kirpaa I was spared the kind of stuff we are reading about or maneuvered around it. But yes, I think it's infi
    4 points
  33. Most people don't report sexual abuse. Look at how much historic grooming cases turned up when the lid was lifted slightly. This reluctance is even more pronounced in conservative cultures when they can affect how victims are perceived and jeopardise marriage proposals. For male accusers it's even more complicated, as plenty of males wouldn't show any empathy for them, seeing them as having put themselves in that position; even laughing at them. Blokes can be like that.
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  34. The sangat of West London have known this for years, which is why he never showed his face around here. And anyone who helped cover it up (or was an accomplice to Sukha's abuse) will also be uncovered in due course... I remember the backlash I (and a couple of others) received every time I mentioned it on this forum. It's going to be interesting to see how his diehard-fanboys try and defend this... And Sangat Ji, I understand things like this may be difficult to accept, especially when you are not close to the situation. But we need to start taking things like this more seriously...
    4 points
  35. French clergy sexually abused over 200,000 children since 1950, probe finds https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/france-clergy-abuse-1.6199877 Sexual abuse of children by the "religious" is more common than many would naively believe. Well intentioned people feel their own group is immune to this kind of stuff and end up putting themselves or their children in harms way. They end up worse than non-religious or semi-religious people and really struggle to make sense of faith, divinity, culture. I've seen the havoc it unleashes on decent people. I'm very sure there are plenty of sukha
    4 points
  36. If the allegations are true, I think such things negate any perceived good done by such people. The amount of people that will have their faith shook to the core because of things like this is not negligible in my opinion. It's worth reading that brother from Sikh Unit's account of such stuff. I've always (as you all know) highlighted targeted abuse of apneean. I think we need to keep it real about abuse within the community too. Including towards males. We have to break down the taboo around it. It's a real issue and our conservatism towards confronting it only gives the nonces mor
    4 points
  37. Guru Nanak is aupposed to have said > “I have seen the light of Muhammad (with my mind's eye). I have seen > the prophet and the messenger of God, in other words, I have > understood his message or imbibed his spirit. After contemplating the > glory of God, my ego was completely eliminated.” But there are two things that Muslims believe in 1. Prophet Muhammad being the last prophet. 2. No reincarnation. Sikhs believe that Guru Nanak was a prophet and they also believe in reincarnation. But Sikhs also believe that Prophe
    4 points
  38. This might sound comical, but I seriously mean it: Any guys who don't have experience with women, get a female cat (a feisty one), let her be free to go outside: learn to understand and have a good relationship with her, it'll help with understanding your missus in future.
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  39. I would dismiss as conspiracy theories when it was said that the CIA (and Pentagon) were the chief drug and child traffickers on the planet. This is how they make their money. Never in a hundred thousand years will this corrupt system ever admit this to be the case. They still want the people to believe there's a multitude of James Bond-type figures running around, saving the world so we can sleep safe in our beds. The reality is that James, if such a figure existed, was most likely sharing the spoils with Blofeld!
    4 points
  40. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/india-extradition-case-against-three-british-sikh-men-collapses/articleshow/86437798.cms India extradition case against thre .. Read more at:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/86437798.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst The men, all born and raised in the UK, all married with children, had been arrested at their homes in December 2020 based on extradition warrants following an extradition request from India accusing them of conspiracy to murder Rashtriya Sikh Sang
    4 points
  41. @proudkaur21Totally agree with you! Another thing i like is how they keep it Alpha which is why they attract many Muslims converts. many boxer convert to Islam too. They have beliefs like Mohammed flew from Mecca to Jerusalem on a half winged donkey, split the moon into 2 all these fairytailes yet they keep it very 'masculine.' Despite all the wars they still fastest growing religion. Also non-apologists against their jihad yet we keep washing is down with all is equal and humanity is the same..context matters. We used to have that. Khrakus were the peak. Since then we only known for 'Pan
    4 points
  42. I think instead of down voting or getting angry because you disagree it would be better if you put forth your arguments.
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  43. The pragmatic and balanced lifestyle that encompassed a spiritual grounding coupled with razor sharp wits to engage with your actual social environment is what I’ve come to see as the ideal Sikh from studying the lives of Guru Sahibaan and early Sikh lives. Guru Sahibaan never left spirituality in the abstract domain. It was practiced in a practical manner through all of life's tribulations (more so than many of us will ever encounter). We seem to have skewed our focus by failing to contextualize outlier historical occurrences and this has led to all sorts of dead-end efforts where we feel lik
    4 points
  44. A preacher bench like this is real good too:
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  45. @Premi5 A pull up bar like this for door frames is a whole gym in itself and cheap as chips! Something like this too:
    4 points


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