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Muafi ji " kalya" ji "pat" han muafi haridas ji dasam pita ji de darbar ch likyari san. Ik hor gal ehna kalya to tal banan vali foto vi diti hai.. Note -- mai ethe kisi nu confuse nhi karna chahunda parentu tuhade to hor jaankari te salaah lena chahunda han.. Tusi sare knowledgeable ho te mai inquiry karna chahunda si man vi layea ki eh sab chooth hai par asi mr. Padam nu undekha nhi kar sakde. eh sirf saadi plai layi hai mai hune ehna vada nhi parentu eh gal nische naal kaha ga ki sade kol bahut guru sahibana da khajana hai jis nu asi bachana hai..te mai pichhe nhi hatna ....hune te kuj khaas kar nhi sakda par mai vade ho ke sikhi de khajane nu forever preserve karna chahunda han,pawe eh sokha nhi par asan himat vi nhi harni, Bhul chuk.muaf! Is nalaaik nu muaf kardeyo.houme aayi hove ta muafi ji. Sri akaal sahai!( it is copied style of maharaja ranjit singh's stamp with which he marked the docs in the end..creating confusion? I have seen its pic.(still correct me if i'm wrong plz.i know i'm kind of sanki.sorry.) Singha tera panth nirala.

Veer ji, mai hath jod muafi mangda han..menu pyaar sikhi naal hai ji. mai pehle vi keh chukya han ki mai piara singh padam di kitaab ch padya si. Hun tusi kahoge ki asi mr. Padam te yakeen kive kariye.eh khyal menu vi aaya si parentu je tusi kitaab(sri guru granth prakash) padoge tan us ch usne aap likhya hai ki usne kayi bira vekhiyan han. Te kamaal di gal eh ki ohna haridas ji di likhat bir di foto vi payi hai. Haridas ji guru gobind singh sahib ji de darbaar vicho san(plz correct me if i am wrong) te naal hi goindwal pothiya adik anekan bira diyan fotoan payian han.te naal hi oh kayi vaar koi special feature dasde han bira de jo ohna dekhe.naale ik hor gal eh.vi hai ohna dasam pita de dohre di puratan bir di foto payi hai jo hun chhape vali bira ch us puratan tang naal nhi dita... sab ton vadi gal ohna eh dasi ki jo old birs ch kavi da naaa "kalya" hai uthe karde krande oh "kal" te hun "tal" ban gya.( he puts emphasis on this by writing 2 times).. next thing i said earlier i may still be wrong,so i want more knowledge.i know u people have that . CONFUSION? je veer ji me confusion pani hundi te sri dasam granth sahib te karda jo ki sab ton vadiya tarika hai..par mai sirf truth labna chahunda han..ki mara hai is ch. Mai tuhade ton hath jod muafi mangda han, is katiya insaan nu muaf karna Parentu eh iljaam na lao,mai ron haka ho reha han,mai muafi mangda han. Bhul chuk muaf! Sri akaal sahai!

Yeah!yeah! I knew that would be the answer ... but can we do bro? We need to do something..

Yes. To be honest i cant believe that such thing happened to me.but at that moment i was absorbed & was thinking about bani..only. Thank u veer ji..hsingh8963 Also yeah we shud make 1 thread. also i am new here.i am from asr pb ks Sri akal sahai!

I totally agree but the one tuk i had given , shows how the meaning can be changed drastically.i read somewhere that baba gyan singh travelled whole india & found many old birs then he researched & created data ..after that he gave to sgpc .. but due to their laziness.they let directly compile the bir without proper strong research. Is that true? These minor errors are most important ..read bhai randhir singh 's books on matras... i think a true sikh will try its best to lessen the errors as much as possible but there are 20more tuks which do not match.also it can be more. Also wanted to know the issue to get xtra details ..if not then i wanted to know about some books. ur last line i totally agree.

I am going share an experience. Today i was listening to chopai sahib very carefully, at the verse before the verses in which date, place is mentioned in the end...i got a very strong shiver in me. I felt all my hairs of body were so much in energy. I felt extreme energy in me (without any reason). I was dumb struck.i got water in my eyes.i can still feel a shivering not of fear but of something xtra ordinary.it was brilliant & still is. The only word from my mouth in shaken voice came out after getting normal was - " waheguru,waheguru,dhan dhan guru gobind singh sahib " every inch of it is true. It was just about half an hour ago. No words for the feeling which i am still feeling.that thing was extreme.i never share things so easily on net but this time i am.the feeling cant be described.no joking.plz forgive this lowly person for any wrong thing. I swear to god, i felt it...i seriously felt it. Oh! Waheguru ji! Bhul chuk muaf! Sri akal sahai!

I am going share an experience. Today i was listening to chopai sahib very carefully, at the verse before the verses in which date, place is mentioned in the end...i got a very strong shiver in me. I felt all my hairs of body were so much in energy. I felt extreme energy in me (without any reason). I was dumb struck.i got water in my eyes.i can still feel a shivering not of fear but of something xtra ordinary.it was brilliant & still is. The only word from my mouth in shaken voice came out after getting normal was - " waheguru,waheguru,dhan dhan guru gobind singh sahib " every inch of it is true. It was just about half an hour ago. No words for the feeling which i am still feeling.that thing was extreme.i never share things so easily on net but this time i am.the feeling cant be described.no joking.plz forgive this lowly person for any wrong thing. I swear to god, i felt it...i seriously felt it. Oh! Waheguru ji! Bhul chuk muaf! Sri akal sahai!

Can anybody reply on this!!!!!!!!!

Plz take note here - Pronounce NAHI THERE AS NAAHI Pronounce MADE (LIKHTI) AS MADHE &NOT MADDE. BHUL CHUK MUAF JI! SRI AKAAL SAHAI!

The tuk of standard version is from ang 51 ,siriraag mahela 5. Standard version means today's chhapai wali.. Likhti version means handwritten wali. ( as verified by mr. Piara singh padam himself ... likhti version here includes many birs which mr. Padam had seen himself. & he is a totally trustworthy author.As said earlier i have'nt seen the birs myself. Bhul chuk muaf! SRI AKAAL SAHAI!

Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh! Plz bhul chuk muaf kar deni bcoz i'm writing the tuk myself . There are many more also. The one i'm going to write has been verified by me in standard version. Standard version - MAAN ABHIMAAN MANDE SO SEWAK(U) NAHI likhti version -MAAN APMAAN MADE SOURCE - PADAM'S BOOK SRI AKAAL SAHAI!

One more thing if sgpc did research well ,then i need to know who were the researchers ? & i am thirsty for more info on puratan birs..., aswell BHUL CHUK MUAAF JI! FOR ANY WRONG INFO.PLZ FORGIVE THIS LOWLY PERSON. Sri akaal sahai!

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!!! FATEH!!! alright! actually its difficult to write from mobile, I tried sound feature & all was messed up.... now direct to the point -- 1. I have been doing research to verify the sikh literature, gurbani etc. Also on some facts maryadas history art culture of sikhism ..almost everything from every perspective & datas. 2. After verifying a lots of Q.s about sikhism and finding almost every data for all queries.i am stuck on 1 Q. How can one prove that damdami birs from where standardized sri guru granth sahib ji of today has been compiled are authentic? ( well for authenticity of these birs, i have found quite good answers myself) now comes that sikhs got the authentic data from damdami birs of maharaja's era & early 18th century but ..... have sgpc researched on it extensively on these bir to compile today's bir? It is not easy to answer bcoz after my researching, i have found that some tuks do not match the old ones that means sgpc's research is not good. I will later post these tuks. And i have in no way seen birs myself.. IT IS A BIG MATTER OF CONCERN FOR TODAY'S SIKHS. Plz help me to find out some books only on damdami bir. Note - plz do not post anything about kartarpuri bir, i have found ample data on it. My query is only about damdami bir. We have a great resource of old damdami birs & very few people do research on it. I hope sgpc takes concern on this matter & all ngos etc. ALSO earlier posted query of british conspiracy - got its answer. So no worry IMP :- I KNOW THAT GURBANI IS OUR TRUE GURU & I HAVE TOTAL RESPECT FOR IT. I AM JUST SEEKING THE TRUTH. PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR QUESTIONING. ITS MY VERY FIRST POST HERE. SRI AKAL SAHAI!

Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh! Sgpc's research to create standardized sri guru granth sahib ji maharaj(1430)? any error or anything missing in it? british and other conspiracies in our granths ( if any ).. please do not be harsh i totally respect shri guru granth sahib ji maharaj.books on authenticity of damdami birs aswell. SRI AKAAL SAHAI!