extremist

yep its true even got picshttp://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...0-8-2007_pg13_1

Is there any release from PSGPC or any other Sikh groups in Pakistan? There is still a Kharkoo base in Pakistan with the likes of Wadhava Singh and others who seeked refuge in Pakistan. Anyone able to find how the Sikhs in Pakistan are dealing with the issue and what urgent support we can give from over here?

this is false news and part of the Hindu propaganda their is press release coming tommorow by psgpc explaining and clearing this issue

Mod Note: Continuous attack on other community (Naamdhari sect) without any evidence. Besides Pre - Warned few days ago in another thread which was closed. He posted another reply with attacking same sect by including same picture of group of ppls and claiming them as terrorist camp in joking manner. It's true that supreme sikh body Akal Takht do not support such groups but sikhs are not supposed to attack others just because they are different than sikhi mainstream. 3rd warning and ip address is now under moderation. Chardi kala

*Edited - Please don't post such rumors. Post such type of threads if you have credible evidence (such as message on their official Website etc..)*

Before everyone starts going off ‘on one’ I’ll admit it now I don’t like Muslims that’s why I am posting this. help me stop building of the mosque (yea we will get a bit of paap for it don’t worry just blame me) forward email to as many people as you can if you love Muslims and view them as equals then you want to stop reading now.

This place will only be used to harbour terrorist and conversion camps. One less mosque! Forward the email you know you wana it’s for the best cut and paste and send in email……………..read on

This is not racist - Can you imagine any Muslim country building any other faiths place of worship that would cost as much as this when there's a lot more UK people who REALLY need help in so many different ways? I can't & I know that it would not happen

You may recall there was a newspaper cutting to protest against this

mosque, well now there is a government :awesome petition.

You have to submit a valid email address to confirm your signing

of

the online petition/protest, so GET SIGNING and email this on.

If you dont then there's no point complaining when its too late.

Muslim Mosque for 2012 Olympics a waste of £100m Taxpayers money?

Could the money be better spent on schools or hospitals for

example?

Mosque to be built for London Olympics cost £100m

The plan is for the mosque to be so big that people flying in

fromall over the world for the 2012 Olympics will it see it as the

biggest landmark in London , bigger than St Pauls, Westminster

Abbey or Wembley Stadium. Take a second to cast your vote in The

on-line poll to determine public opinion about whether a mega

mosque should be built for the Olympics.

The vote so far is *57*% in favour. It looks like the Muslim

community is casting its vote in droves After voting, forward

this to as many people as you wish.

Here's the link (just click or cut and paste into your

internet

explorer address bar)

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ScrapMegaMosque

sikh sangat is very quick to jump on any anti-hindu topics and close them but this guy clearly state that he hate muslims and yet this is still going on,if its free speech then let talk about Hindu religion openly and then we will see your free speech.

if that is that case then sikhsangat should stop using gurbani and start using quests like . we sikhs are muslim bashers.

thanks for reading

Please also see the sikhsangat news item below.

http://www.sikhsangat.org/news/publish/asi..._Pakistan.shtml

As the muslim sikh fed is so tight with the muslims and pakistani govt, perhaps they can comment on these activities of changing the gurdwara architecture to islamic architecture? will the org stand up agaisnt its owners, opps sorry against the pakistani govt and say stop?

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?act=At...ost&id=6305

The Sarovar or the holy tank in Gurdwara Panja Sahib at Hasan Abdal has been covered with green stones. Also, the interior of the gurdwara has been decorated with green colour glass. The floor design of the "Parikarma" of the Gurdwara Punja Sahib is characteristic of Islamic architecture.

iam not saying that the person how wrote this report is blind and agent of rss and india.but this is the picture of panja sahib i dont see any green stone do you.

sant jarnail singh jee also stated in one speech that he hadnt become a sant by the votes of the public but by the kirpa of satguru granth sahib jee. there still exist however are very few and as my fellow brother stated we shouldnt freely use this title to everyone as its disrespecting gurbani if the person dsnt live up to the specific avastha.

THE REAL PREACHERS OF TRUTH AND JUSTICE

the real beloved one if their are any

WORLD MUSLIM SIKH FEDERATION

90a Broadway southall,ub11qf, tel:02085740057

PRESS RELEASE

2500 acres

Finalisation of Baba Guru Nanak International University. Nankana Sahib

Historic Meeting – delegates from right to left Cllr Gurchran Singh, Anup Singh Choudry, Sardar Bishan Singh, P S Sarna, Avtar Singh Makkar and others

Historic Meeting – delegates from right to left Cllr Gurchran Singh, Anup Singh Choudry, Sardar Bishan Singh, P S Sarna, Avtar Singh Makkar and others

Meeting to finalise the structure and faculties for a proposed University being set up by the Government of Pakistan in honour of Guru Nanak took place in Lahore on 15th and 16th June 2007. The meeting was attended by Sikh representatives from across the globe and included Sardar Avtar Singh Makkar , president of SGPC, Sardar PS Sarna the president of Delhi Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee, Sardar Bishan Singh President of Pakistan Sikh Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee along with members of Evacuee Trust Board Pakistan.

Representatives from England included Councillor Gurcharan Singh the former mayor of the London Borough of Ealing and Sardar Anup Singh Choudry a former London lawyer and member of World Muslim Sikh federation.

World Muslim Sikh federation prepared an 18 pages of proposed draft and 3 dimensional Concept plan as a blue print for the proposed university in response to request from the Government of Pakistan who had invited all the delegates to respond likewise.

Gurtej Singh from Chandigarh also produced a 3 page proposal at the meeting. Sardar Avtar Singh Makkar provided a copy of brochure on proposed Guru Granth Sahib University in Fategarh Sahib as a model and sought affiliation of these two new universities ..

The meeting after considerable deliberation allowed request from World Muslim Sikh Federation to grant 2500 acres of land as was explained on concept plan instead of 350 acres which was allocated initially for the project. It was also resolved that the university would be an independent international university and would be housed at Nankana Sahib and not at Lahore.

The meeting also resolved to name the University as Baba Guru Nanak International University.

There was unqualified and unanimous support from all the delegates and the government for the setting up of this university. The Government of Punjab under the auspices of Chief Minister Chowdhary Pervaiz Ellai has also devised urban plans to up grade Nankana Sahib as one of most beautiful cities in Pakistan which will be known as the City of Knowledge.

Anup Singh Choudry said that in drawing up the draft proposals and the concept plan on behalf of the World Muslim Sikh Federation he had based the idea on a typical campus University in Britain with all the best facilities of the University of Cambridge and London. The university was designed on grid systems composing 12 sectors He added that the university at Nankana Sahib will have one of the finest facilities of any university in the world so that a heaven of learning is created for its students and visitors. The city of Nankana Sahib will truly be a city of Knowledge. When the university is completed properly qualified guides will be available to give a tour of the campus.

The University will inter alia have a centre for Sikh studies and comparative religions, a department for development and consolidation of Sikh law, and department for explaining science and the universe on the basis of Gurbani.

On conclusion of the meeting Lt Gen Zulfikar Ali Khan the chairman of the Evacuee Trust Board who chaired the meeting stated that the next step was the preparation Master Plan. Following the meeting Sardar Manmohan Singh Khalsa, chairman of the World Muslim Sikh federation stated in London that his organisation would be happy to assist with the preparation of the master plan based on the existing concept plan and the draft proposals by instructing global firm of architects expert in design and landscaping This would ensure that there was right ambience and architecture to build around 50 buildings in the campus The architecture proposed is Sikh architecture and/or blend of Sikh and modern architecture so that they are award winning buildings befitting 2500 acres site. The forest and botanical garden will be a special feature in the campus. More details with a concept plan and proposal will be released soon.

I think he's trying to be sarcastic by giving them names like Brahmgyani. Quite a few muppets on this forum recently.

these are Sikhs of true belief and commitment and to me they bigger than any sant mahapursh. they put their live and their families on the line.theirs is also true ongoing sacrifice to Sikh nation.

iam not being racist or anything you know the fat gays in the vedio, they all way give out how they are working for jihad. well the only place they gono do jihad is at kfc and macds "bismila my brothers and sister we must finish all burgers at mac d and then think about kfc. this is the only way alaha hu akabar

<admin-profanity filter activated> fat puffs when ram wanted to have word with them the puffs ran way and called the police on him saying ak47 wants to kill all the muslims in southall the fat we need sas black magic crack team on them bobobohohoooooooooo<admin-profanity filter activated>

HOW IS YOUR BLACK MAGIC THING COMING THROUGH .

THE REAL PREACHERS OF TRUTH AND JUSTICE

BKI: Sant ,Bramghani ,Mahapursh Wadhawa Singh je Babbar, Chief of Babbar Khalsa continues to operate from Pakistan. A large number of youth associated with Babbar Khalsa and its religious wing Akhand Kirtani Jatha have under gone training from time to time in Pakistan, with the objective of using them as reserve force at appropriate time. The BKI been most active in executing terrorist strikes in Punjab over the past decade.

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Khalistan Commando Force (KCF)- Panjwar:- Headed by Sant ,Bramghani ,Mahapursh Paramjit Singh JE Panjwar who has been camping in Pakistan for over 13 years. This group currently has limited striking potential. Nevertheless its alliance with ISYF, Sikh Youth of America and Sikh Youth of Belgium makes it a numerically large group, adding to its influence. KCF-Panjwar has a number of sympathisers in U.K., Germany, Belgium, USA and Canada. About 100 youth in small batches belonging to these countries have undergone training in the handling of weapons and explosives from time to time. Panjwar’s links with smugglers and Islamist terrorist groups are old and well-known. Panjwar has failed to muster dependable support within India.

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ISYF-Rode: Sant ,Bramghani ,Mahapursh Lakhbir Singh JE Rode, the nephew of Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, is the coordinator of this group, and has links with Islamist terrorist groups such as the Lashkar-e-Toiba. Rode played a major role in shaping the Khalistan-Kashmir International, a joint platform for strikes by Sikh and Islamist extremist in the aftermath of the setback received by terrorists on the K2M (Khalistan-Kashmir-Muslim militancy) front, which was the pioneer platform for joint strikes by Punjab militants, J&K militants and Islamist terrorist elements in the early 1990s. ISYF under Lakhbir Singh Rode has its branches spread over a dozen countries in western Europe and Canada.

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Khalistan Zindabad Force (KZF): Sant ,Bramghani ,Mahapursh Ranjit Singh Neeta JE , hailing from Poonch area in Jammu & Kashmir (J&K), is the head of this outfit, which had an operational alliance with ISYF & BKI in the past, is now operating independently. Neeta’s associates were responsible for a series of explosions in running trains and buses in Punjab, Delhi, Haryana & J&K. Neeta emerged as a leading terrorist not only in the context of Punjab militancy but developed operational alliances with splinter groups of J&K militants. Neeta is presently very active and transferred a number of consignments of explosives, small weapons, ammunition and fake currency to his associates in Punjab over the years. With an estimated dozen-odd active associates in Punjab, he retains some striking potential, and has executed a number of strikes in the State, including the Jalandhar bus terminus blasts in April 2006 and the Goraya railway track explosions near Goraya in January 2004.

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Dal Khalsa International: Headed by Sant ,Bramghani ,Mahapursh Gajinder Singh JE ‘Hijacker’, tried to float a joint group with J&K militants, indications of which surfaced in 1997-98. This group is one of the most active, with substantial funding available through Khalistani elements abroad. Kanwarpal Singh Bittu remains Dal Khalsa’s principal point man in Punjab with excellent contacts with disruptive and subversive elements in the State and beyond.

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The Council of Khalistan, represented by Sant ,Bramghani ,Mahapursh Balbir Singh JE Sandhu, has probably the longest stay in Pakistan.

Role of Sikh Women in the Movement

Many Sikh women participated in the Sikh resistance movement as fighters. Like their sisters from past ages, Sikh women joined their brothers in the fight for freedom. Many brave Singhnees fought side by side with their Singhs and attained Shaheedee. The examples of Shaheeds Bhai Harvinderjit Singh Taini Babbar and Bibi Manjeet Kaur Babbar (their story will be posted later), Bhai Pritpal Singh and Bibi Harjeet Kaur, etc, are notable.

Sikh women often worked as messengers for Sikh Resistance groups as well as preparing hideouts and serving tired Sikh fighters.

But unfortunately, many Sikh women were also the target of the bloody thirsty Indian Security forces. Sikh women were ruthlessly tortured, not only physically but also mentally. They were used as tools to force the surrender of Sikh fighters who were their relatives and also as a means of humiliating families. When Sikh women were arrested with their husbands, the husbands were often forced to watch the rape of their wives. Rape was used as an interrogation tool.

Humiliation: A common form of torture used on Sikhs

The Indian Forces also began a program of “shudhee karan”, which was a code name for the rape of Sikh women. They joked that the offspring of their rapes would change the genetic makeup of the Sikh community and they would kill the Resistance in this way. Many rape victims took their own lives, unable to live with the ongoing humiliation at the hands of the Indian police.

barat mata is a bamani .

she is only for Hindu use

if get wat i mean

Article by "the man in blue"

harjindersinghkhalsa@yahoo.co. uk

Mixed Marriages

Are we going to have war on the streets of Birmingham? The late Enoch Powell (Conservative MP) predicted rivers of blood in riots between the British and minorities. Some Sikhs are now talking about war on the streets of Birmingham over conversions of (innocent) Sikh ‘girls’ by (evil) Muslim ‘boys’, who then marry these ‘girls’.

I am a Sikh, and I was a Christian. I am standing up for the right of all people from all faiths to change to another faith or to no faith. How can you force people into becoming a Christian or Muslim ? Are we talking about people who are feeble minded ? Parents can try to force their faith on their children, but it will not work. A Sikh ‘girl’ who converts because she wants to marry a Muslim ‘boy’ might be silly, but she has not been forced.

I am very happy to be part of a faith tradition which recognises that people of other traditions can also find God, and which does not try to tell anybody that if you do not become a Sikh you will go to hell or some such place.

Too many Muslims and Christians still think that their way is the only way. These Muslims and Christians miss out on a lot of true spirituality which can be found where different traditions meet and have an open dialogue. There are some real bigoted people about, but I also met plenty Muslims and Christians who practice respect when meeting people of other faiths.

There are rotten apples in our community who just do not understand Guru’s message; similarly many Muslims and Christians do not understand that Allah the Merciful or the God of love that Jesus preached does not hate those that are of different backgrounds.

A few more points : where I come from ‘boys’ and ‘girls’ do not marry, it is against the law. The Rehat Maryada does say that a Sikh should marry a Sikh, and also clearly defines who is a Sikh. I completely agree with that clause. I am a Sikh and I married a Sikh. Equally the Birmingham girl became a Muslim and does well to marry a Muslim.

Another example of the prevailing hypocrisy in the multi-faith area was the e-mail about a Sikh ‘girl’ marrying a Muslim ‘boy’ in a West Midland’s Gurdwara. The Rehat Maryada clearly states that Anand Karaj should be between two Sikhs. But what about the many weddings between ‘boys’ and ‘girls’ of Sikh and Hindu background, or of Sikh and Christian background ? Where is the outcry over these ? And what about the many people who are Sikhs (or at least look like Sikhs) and involve themselves in Hindu practices ?

Sikh sisters and brothers, be aware of the ‘fundamentalists’ in our midst, and concentrate on living a Sikh life, setting an example to the younger generation. Trying to enhance Sikhí by preaching hatred is just plain stupid.

nothing can be more ture

False Encounters

It is imposable to have any kind of hope of justice from Hindu India. India is not a democracy it a Hindu dictatorship. Those Hindu fundamentalists are hell bound on forming a 100% Hindu nation called Hindustan. To describe India as democracy is an insult to democracy.

They used the Hindu anti-terror law to rape, tutour and kill any one who opposed the right wing Hindu ideals. The police and secret services have used the law to assert any one with in India. Put false cases against them and torture them until they get them to admit of being involved in terrorist activities. After this comes the pre planed and staged murdered by the police in encounter.

Sikhs have paid a very high price to these false encounters

• It is an ongoing genocide of Sikhs by the Hindu nation

• Sikhs of all ages have come to lose their life to these bloody acts of brutality.

• The order for these acts are come from the top government officials, including the prime minsters and chief minters (e.g.: prime Minster Rajiv Gandhi and chife minster Beant singh )

• It was a planed attempt to kill hole Sikh generation, in odder to finish Sikh religion from Indian occupied Punjab.

• 200000 of innocent Sikh lives are lost to these in last 20 to 30 years period.

• Situation is the same all over India. Kashmir,Gujarat and Nagaland etc

False_Encounters.doc

Veer sarpanch has been doing a good job by posting many videos from you tube on various issues so i thought let me do my bit as well to educate all of us a bit more on various issues.

Here's a video about proposed mega mosue to be built in london funded by saudis .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUjePsrUEWw&NR=1

then you are going to say your are not anti muslim and your best friend is a muslim.

lol, i've noticed all the new bharat mata members. keep it up. that means this site is scaring the most extreme of bharat mata's fanatics.

jado sikh quam wich jagreeti aundi ah, the first ones to get freaked out is.......yeah the peaceful majority community.

i'm all for ekta between religions but tone down the BANDE MARTE HUM brainwashing rhetoric.

yeah

So extremist, you think that using violence against innocent people and burning them to death is brave?

The enemy within is YOU and people like YOU who are violent fascist extremists!

i was just saying that media is doing anti sikh propaganda by relating all of these events to each other nothing else.if some is uncap able of understanding the topic perhaps they should not reply to it

http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/birmin...-name_page.html

The attack is the latest in a series of controversies which have hit the city's Sikh community.

Last month more than 100 Sikhs protested outside the Indian Consulate in Birmingham against a cult leader publishing "anti-Sikh propaganda".

In a separate incident, a 44-year-old was stabbed during the Sikh Vaisakhi celebrations in Birmingham in April.

Four men have already been charged with attempted murder over the incident.

i just read this news i will have say that some people are using currents evens in birmingham like"Last month more than 100 Sikhs protested outside the Indian Consulate in Birmingham against a cult leader publishing "anti-Sikh propaganda"."using these current events to do anti Sikh propaganda linking rest of the even happening in birmingham to protest outside the Indian consulate in brimingham is wrong. it was peace full protest and link with arson attack is gross anti sikh propaganda to make all sikh sounds like extremists and fanatics.

Many people on this thread have said that Khalistan "is a must". To fight for something, you must first know what you are fighting for. So please could the pro-Khalistani's answer these questions as I am a little confused on exactly what Khalistan will be.

1. What will the borders of Khalistan be? Please be as specific as possible.

2. If the borders extend into Pakistan, should we fight against the Pakistani government as well as the Indian government?

3. What will the form of government for Khalistan be? Will there be a democracy?

4. Will Khalistan allow the free expression of religion regardless of people's beliefs? Will halal meat be allowed in the country? Will wine be allowed?

5. There have been numerous cases of fights (and even murders) during election time at gurdwaras. How will you ensure that an entire country of Sikhs will remain peaceful?

6. In the years after 1984, many young Sikhs were killed in the armed struggle for Khalistan. Most of these deaths were at the hands of the Punjab Police who were 80% Sikh. So most of the deaths were Sikh on Sikh violence. Given that, how will you ensure that something like that will not happen again?

7. It is difficult to think of anything happening with Punjab politics without some form of corruption involved. The same goes for the SGPC, which runs the Akaal Takht, the highest throne of the Sikhs. How will you weed out corruption which is so ingrained into the Punjabi lifestyle and mindset?

8. Whatever the borders of Khalistan are, it will not have direct access to the sea. How will Khalistan trade with the outside world if it is at odds with India and Pakistan (bearing in mind any air freight would have to go through their airspace)?

9. Punjab is a semi-arid region. Without the rivers running through it, it would rapidly turn to desert. All of the rivers running into Khalistan would first come through India. India has diverted river water in the past from Punjab to Haryana, but cannot divert any more because of the public outcry and political minefield they would be entering. With no duty to the citizens of Khalistan, how would you prevent India from diverting ALL river flows from entering Khalistan causing it to turn to desert?

10. Agriculture is pretty much the only industry in Punjab (bar tourism). With the animosity likely to be faced from India and Pakistan and the trade barriers and huge farming subsidies in the West, who would the farmers of Khalistan sell their produce to? And if they are unable to sell beyond the borders of Khalistan competitively, how will you ensure there is not a wholesale collapse of the farming industry in Khalistan?

Those are a few of the questions I can think of. I have many more, but would like to hear responses to those above before I continue. And these are not questions that can be answered later. Before you can fight for something, you have to know what you are fighting for! Your answers will make Khalistan more than just a fanciful idea.

Personally I cannot see how Khalistan could possibly ever work, but I hope someone can prove me wrong... Yes brother IAM answering ur other queries as far as hostility of india and pak with sikh state is concerned even today hostility is there if seprate sikh state is created india will be divided in different states and same will happen in pak as far as industry is concerned there is bright future of agro based industries in future by 50-85 years from now whole rivers r going to be dissappeared expect NILE river of Africa whole world is trying hard to solve this problem as far as system of goverment is cocerned u should know that it is only GURU NANAK DEV JI WHO GAVE THE CONCEPT OF HALIMI RAJ OR TRUE WELFARE STATE OR IDEA OF BEGUMPURA COTAINED IN GRANTH SHAIB.We only need codification everything best is avilable in GRANTH SHAIB. If hindus and muslims can codify personal law from their history and scricptures why we can frame best constitution of world allthough indian constitution preamble was taken from sikh cocept ,basics of indian constitution (unchanged one)was taken from sikhism.If leftists in punjab can harp on failed concept of bloody marxism why we khalsa for asking for our selfrule r being equated with Taliban on the contray it is RSS which is running arms and teror training camps not the sikhs. Allow us to run our system accoding to sikh thought and not to create ANTI-SIKH DERAS like radhasoami , jhuta sauda, baniaradera, noormehias,etc we will make whole india a best place this is insecurity the fanatic hindus have that is why they have created fears in minds of people like you. You are carried away by it please do not mind I do not mean any offend to you if u r hurt by my reply Iam sorry for that I just want to clear misunderstanding in ur mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTVEOs5P2us

muat kill sumbo

Hindus... true Hindus... did not kill, rape, murder our brothers n sisters... for a True Hindu would not have done that. Those that did, were not even human so they were far from being a true Hindu.

We have respect for other religions and other faiths as Sikhs. We are not to judge people by caste or creed, by faith or religion. There have been good Hindus, good Muslims, good Christians who have done GOOD for humanity. To label them as all oppressors of freedom is an insult to them and a very unfair and unjustified one at that.

"If you are going to be a Sikh, be a GOOD Sikh... if you are going to be a Hindu or a Muslim, be a GOOD Hindu or Muslim."... that quote suggests that if there are such thing as GOOD Sikhs... then there will also be BAD Sikhs... so see every person as an individual. We dont like it when we are judged so dont judge others. Mutual respect.

this is stupid how much do you know about hindu religion here are some facts vedas

Brahma is one of the three main gods-Trimurti-of the Hindu pantheon. He is the creator of the universe, Saraswati, who became the wife of her own father, was the daughter of Brahma. There are two stories about her genesis in the "Saraswati Purana". One is that Brahma created his beautiful daughter Saraswati direct from his "vital strength" or seminal fluid. The other is that Brahma used to collect his semen in a pot whenever he masturbated fixing his carnal eyes on the celestial beauty Urvasi. Brahma's semen in the pot gave birth to Saraswati. Thus,Saraswati had no mother.

This daughter or grand-daughter of Brahma is the Hindu goddess of learning. When Brahma saw the beauty of Saraswati he became amorous. To escape from her father's passionate approach Saraswati ran to the lands in all four directions, but she could not escape from her father. She succumbed to Brahma's wish. Brahma and his daughter Saraswati lived as husband and wife indulging in incest for 100 years. They had a son Swayambhumaru. Swayambhumaru made love with his sister Satarpa. Through the incest of Brahma's son and daughter Brahma got two grandsons and two grand-daughters.

SHIVA

God Shiva had two wives-Ganga and Parwati. It was while Shiva was frolicking and making love with Parwati in the forest in the form of elephants that Ganapati, the god with the head of an elephant was born. On another occasion when Shiva was frolicking with Parwati in the form of a monkey, Hanuman the monkey god was born.

Once when Parwati was away, Shiva had sexual inter course with a woman called Madhura, who came to Kailas to worship him. On her return, Parwati saw her husband Shiva making love with Madhura, and she became a frog. When the period of the curse was over after twelve years, the frog took the form of Mandodari who became the wife of Ravana, the ten-headed king of Lanka. The sperm of Shiva which remained dormant in the womb of Mandodari when the was frog began to develop, and finally gave birth to Indrajit. Thus, the so-called son of Ravana-Indrajit of Lanka-was an intelligence son of Shiva.

INDRA

Indra is the head of all gods. Amarawati was his celestial residence. Arjun was born to Indra as a result of his clandestine adultery with Pandu's wife, he had no hesitation in committing adultery with the wives of other men. One day when Indra saw Ruchi, the beautiful wife of Devasarma, he became extremely passionate and wanted to seduce her. But Ruchi chased Indra out ,and he had to go away disappointed.

On another occasion Indra could not control his sexual passion when he saw Goutama's wife Ahalya. He committed adultery with Ahalya when her husband was away. On his return home Goutama saw Indra in sexual interlock with his wife. Goutama cursed both of them. Once Aruna visited Devaloka in the disguise of a woman. When Indra saw this woman in disguise he could not control his passion. He had sexual intercourse with this imitation woman. Bali was born as the result of this un-natural homosexual cohabitation.

make your own conlusion

i just have say one thing to hindu community . its ok kill sikhs rape their women and kill their cildrens and Muslims and Christians and dalits but it wrong to kill a bull. thats really preserving life.

well dal khalsa were the first party calling for kalistan that was even before jathedar jarnail singh khalsa binrawale.

has any body got any proof of this story or every body is just chatting crap like usual. before i make any comments about this so called event i need some proof that what relay happened,