Khalsa_Man

Khals_man is here to further a subtle propaganda in favour of Gurnindak dhundha. he should know

that basic teaching of SGGS ji ask us to do naam simran. That is essence. But dhundha discards that

and tell it is parroting.

Why does then khalsa_man repeats that dhundha preaches teachings of SGGS ji. This is called art of

subtle propaganda and khalsa_man is trained in that art by his masters. Khalsa_man if you want to follow

an akirthghan and a cheat like dhundha, follow him.But do not advocate on his behalf as most of posters

know reality of such people. Good luck to you.

And you're a dera follower How many babas do you fund and matha tek too?. 2 can play this game.

Veerji, It is not any matter to any of us whether one listen or not listen to dhunda. We should not worry about number of people on our side or number of people on the other side of the line. What our major concern is that Why such personality allowed to use Sangat Stage after continuous three happenings:

1. Beabdi of Sri Harmandir Sahib [people say video is edited-typical excuse to escape from mistake]

2. Beadbi of Sri Jaap Sahib [people say that video and audio is doctored. Second time]

3. Not following Sri Akal Takht Sahib Saandesh.

Why such 'so-called' pracharaks - darshan ragi and now dhunda- are in habit of recalling or giving examples of prostitutes over and over in their sermons/lectures? Seriously, if any of my professor gave an example of prostitute in any class, next day he would be called off from university grounds and i am not talking about arab world but about america. Maybe such dodgy pracharaks jeevan are surrounded by such personalities; which anyway is none of our concern. But seriously veerji, it highlights that these gurdwara management are not in favor of preaching peace and spread of gurbani but of challenging someone or taking cheap shots against someone. They hold grudges against other and use gurdwara sahib as the tool to take revenge.

You are making valid points. I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying. There are certain things these missionary types are doing that are not good but they're also doing some good things as well like stopping these dera slush funds where sangat in punjab and abroad continue to give funds and matha tek to these fake babas who are ripping sikhi away from us. These missionaries also are connecting sangat with our partakh guru Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Sangat are flooding gurdwaras in Canada like never before to hear Dhunda's vichaars. If these missionaries stay in line and preach within their means than it is great however if they bring up raag mala, dasam granth, etc than yes there;s gonna be issues. In none of the divaans in Canada did Dhunda discuss raag mala, dasam granth, or any other kala afghana concepts. He was simply joring sangat with Dhan Sri Granth Sahib Maharaj

veer 2012 ji, firstly, how do you know i'm that singh. again you are trying to be smart. heh,,,,,,you are so furious and manupulative about dhunda saying i'm not dhunda's supporter. but claiming for him. doing ninda of everyy singh, bana, dastaar. Are you Mr. Dhunda then?????? writing for your self making different id's. Yaar you can't stop me writing here. sameway i can't to you BUT pls write worth. i told here before too and now that one can't imbibe anything in anyone. naa main tere ton kuj lena naa singh ton naa dhunde ton. our concern is koi sikhi nu dhah naa laawe. galat parchaar na kare, baani te baane daa satkaar. if summoned at akal takht saheb. do pesh there with nimarta.

if you know so much about that singh and writing against him. why can't we about dhunda then????? ask him if he was proud or not why discussing here with us. who started dharminder singh's topic here. it was you who started it first writing about him. why can't we answer??? pls don't tell us versions 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 . he is aggresive or physically abusing,,,,threatening committee, i hadn't seen or heard about this, and if he did so for any good cause. again we apprectiate him. becoz i'll write he is not n i know tu morcha laaya praawa defame karan lyiii. so no use. court will decide. why you are in tension????

how come one person be so powerful fighting alone with committee. why didn't police charge him. i was talking to some singh's regarding this few min back again different scenario. i'm astonished that i'm getting positivity n you are gathering negetivity from ur sources for dharminder singh.they told me police was called at that guru ghar for he still was going there after his bann. because he wanted to expose them. the life members when wanted to talk about him n wanted meeting ,committee started fight at guru ghar fighting with everyy member who questioned them.. everyone then started joining to oust those self elected members even they don't follow bylaws and election process just to keep themselves in. they only take their sons, wives relatives n wafadaars in. no memberships to other community. one year in religious committe other year in executive committee,, this way taking turns within with their relatives and near n dears.seeing this sangat joined together to fight against them.

moreover those who do manhandling to singh's, using abusive language, drunk having illaichi and bubble gums in their mouth no respect for guru saheb these were goons. and if you were among them.then u 2. do you have dictionary at home. or search it.

so without having confirmed news its better keep shut.

rest again, one can't stop mouth if wants to vomit. it will and make everyyyy one sick.

So pls don't divert our minds from dhunda to other issues. discuss it within ur circle. no one is intersted here. we'll not spare any one even if he is dharminder singh if he does any thing wrong against sikhi. don't worry.

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Singh Sahib Ji, please don't take this personally. Last comment I'll make on Multani is that I hope Sikh Society gets cleaned up. That gurdwara has been under control of same few families for 30 years and have no vision of moving forward and actually teaching about sikh philosophy so I hope you are correct and singhs can one day take control and bring Gurdwara back under panthic principles.

As for Dhunda, we will agree to disagree.

Outrageously contradictory ! How convenient for you to say that veerje. Maybe, we should worry more about throwing vulgur, disgusting statements of SaachKhand Sri Harmandir sahib in maharaj's hazoori.. Veerji, We have jackals wearing sikh outlook who are enjoying and agreeing on such outrageous statments made by dhunda against our saachkhand sri harmandir sahib. Not only that veerji, we have these jackals giving gold medal to him for making sick reference to our gurbani and saachkhand sri harmandir sahib. Veerji, Can you shed more light particularly on this issue? Please do not pull your IQ to 1 level by saying that video is edited and dhunda never uttered those words.

Banning someone from gurughar? Are we living in communist regime? why adopt such talibanistic views? veerji, your isolated edmonton area disgruntled nastak who with help of sarkar banned part of sangat to enter gurdwara is no different than some weirdo east coast management who along with help of local sarkar banned amritdhari sikhs to enter gurughar.

Fateh Ji,

Like I've said in this thread multiple times, I am NOT a Dhunda supporter. I've already said that if he doesn't go to Akal Takhat and bow his head and ask for apology I will stop listening to his katha.

khalsa_man ji who were mischevious or shenanigans we need not to know from you. SHAME ON YOU. calling singh's shenanigan's and appreciating goons as hero's. you must be one among those goons i doubt. half knowledge is always dangerous. do you know wht dharminder jeet singh fought against in sikh society?????? don't open dirty mouth without confirmation. he started alone and has more than 300 sangat with him against that guru ghar committee members. same in that guru ghar but difference again ,,, that surinder singh raagi kaand. everyy one may have watch that video that raagi telling other raagi's about guru nanak dev ji using abusive language to his teacher pandha. dharminderjeet singh told that guru ghar as he was secretary of that guru ghar. no body listen to him. other raggis we heard used to eat meat n drink, found stealing $100. he raised his voice against such things andmany more which i'll write here after confirmation. committee banned him as he is pooran gursikh , as committee found themselves in danger said u r not secretary here. we heard that they flatly refused and when singh said call general meeting of other members to sort out this problem only 2 persons governing guru ghar banned him for this. hahahahaha strange thing is those two main committee members do wht ever they want. they even don't listen to other life members. those committee members did same to other singh who questioned them. they called him inside and fought with him too. again with well known brothers having good reputation. given warning letters to them. so singhaaaa sab naal do bandyaa ne ehi kitta past history vhi ohna doha di ehi aa. kutt mar badmaashi. this was the reason dharminderjeet singh got support by almost everyy one n together will do something great. hatts off to those gursikhs. atleast he had gutts to do even he was banned from sikh society.

ONE QUESTION FOR YOU TOO,,,,,,,,, WHY ARE YOU AFTER THESE SINGH'S???? ANY PERSONAL GRUDGES,,,, YA THE SAME REASONS AS DHUNDA PARTY HAS.

YAAR MAAF KAR KAMM KAR APNAA TU. KHAAMKHA NAWIAN KAADAA KADDI JAANA EIN.

he stood alone and now sangat has file a law suit onCOMMTTEE.. wait n watch. which other guru ghar you r talking he is been banned,,, may be now from this guru ghar where he threw $1 on dhundu's face.???????

how come you know in advance????????

singho jaago seee we don't know till this time singh got banned frm that guru ghar how this khalsa_ man knows. fassssss gyaaa yaar apniyaa gallaa ton. ohna da hi banda hai tu. hun tu vhi ssa taa nhi bulaani ess forum te?????? jad fadei jaande ho ssa kehnde ho pichhla vhi kehnda si ssa. why did you said dharminderjeet singh not picked up???? you want to pick him up???? where??? any strategies???

Khalsa Ji, please don't get upset. I apologize if I offended you. It seems you are Mr. Multani yourself with how personal you took that remark. Bhul Chaak Maaf karma Mr. Multani. I was just bringing up something that I witnessed with my own 2 eyes. Krodh overtaking Mr. Multani as he viciously threw something at Dhunda. You can think what you want about Dhunda but throwing something at someone in Maharaj Hazoori is not something to be proud of.

Secondly, I don't appreciate being called a goon. Because I don't hate Dhunda and throw things at him I'm a goon??

Third, what Mr. Multani did at Sikh Society has 2 versions to it. I'm glad you wrote your piece on it becuase it provides the other side of the story. The sikh community in Edmonton has heard a different story such as Mr. Multani being the aggressor and physically abusing committee members and threatening them which led to police order for Mr/ Multani to stay away from Sikh Society.

Among the other shenanigans not picked up in Edmonton was Dharminderjeet Multani, who has been banned from 2 of the gurdwaras in Edmonton, throwing an envelope at dhunda. Did anyone see that?

So much anger in this thread, everyone settle down.

One thing that has become obvious here is that Gurdwara Singh Sabha in Edmonton has come under the control of SSI. I've been living in this city my whole life and have never seen this gurdwara push any agenda like they've been doing since the radio guy Kulmit became secretary. The other Sangha guy who used to be secretary had so much nimrata but since the Kulmit the radio guy and the khanda guy Grewal came into power at Singh Sabha it has lost a lot of sangat too.

Ramgharia gurdwara has taken full advantage. Singh Sabha sangat used to outnumber Ramgharia always but that has changed the last few years. I hope people come to their senses....I remember police intervened a few times back in late 2010 at Singh Sabha but I didn't know what it was about but it seems like the other party was the ones who started chanting in front of Dhunda.

Toe to Toe with Giani Apinderpal Singh, Sant Hari Singh or Sant Jagjit Singh Ji Harkowal Wale.. I don't think so.

Where are these guys now to take a stand? Why isn't anything being done to fight against these missionary colleges? Are these guru pyaare going to sit back like Chamberlain and appease these folks?

By the way why did you remain a mute spectator along dhundha when singhs were being dragged by their hair.Why this dhundha did not speak against beadbi being committed in front of SGGS ji whom he pretends to follow. Your role as a passive supporter of manmukhs is condemnable.Had you any respect for sikh insitutions, you would have sided with singhs who were implementing Akal takhat edict.

You may have missed this part of my post:

I was not at Guru Ghar during the first divaan due to work but heard about the nonsense. I have been to 4 divaans now and 2 things have become very obvious.

I have heard a couple of different accounts of what happened that night and I don't think it's fair for me to comment on the alleged "fight" since I didn't see it first hand. I don't appreciate that you're labelling me "passive supporter of manmukhs" when I wasn't even there. If I have done any wrong, I will pay when Dharamrae Jab Lekha Maangai.

Fateh Ji,

I was born in Edmonton and have been here my whole life. I've also been viewing this message board for a number of years although rarely posting. I don't consider myself anti or pro-Dhunda. I love listening to katha where parcharaks try to jorh the sangat with Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jio. Being born here I don't have extensive knowledge of Dasam Granth but I like most sikhs who have any common sense recognize that Dasam Granth is NEEDED to aid in understanding sikh philosophy just like Bhai Gurdas Ji vaars. Reading and watching youtube videos of Dhunda it is pretty obvious that anti-Dhunda people have slapped Dhunda with guilt by associaton. Associating with moorakh's like Ghagga is going to lead to his downfall and maybe that will be for the best if he is excommunicated from the panth. However when it was announced Dhunda was coming to Edmonton I decided I would go to listen and see what he has to say. I was not at Guru Ghar during the first divaan due to work but heard about the nonsense. I have been to 4 divaans now and 2 things have become very obvious.

1) Dhunda is highly educated and well schooled in his knowledge of gurbani. This could be a huge issue if he continues to associate himself with Ghagga and company because I don't believe there is a parcharak in the world at this time who can go head-to-head with Dhunda in his knowledge of gurbani.

2) Dhunda is very charismatic and draws people towards him. Contrary to what people above have posted, it is not mostly clean shaven people there to listen to him, I am shocked at the number of young kesdhari people who were there to listen to his views.

Dhunda has not said anything to misdirect sangat in the divaans I have sat in.....I do ardaas every day that Dhunda disassociate himself from moorakhs like Ghagga and comes to his senses. This parcharak DOES say a lot of great things. His parchar on peaceful family life and anti-dera views are excellent and needed in this world of fake babas stealing money from poor sangat by misguiding them and breaking apart families. I have heard myself of a couple of people in Edmonton going home and throwing all meat and alcohol out of their homes after listening to Dhunda's vichaar. That can't be a bad thing. This man Dhunda has the ability to really grow sikhi BUT again he needs to come to his senses and disassociate himself from the missionary idiots.

It sounds like he is heading back to Punjab in the next week or so. I personally hope he does go to Akal Takhat ON HIS OWN and not with missionary goons like Darshan Lal. The ball is in Dhunda's court. If he wants to continue to be relevant he can disassociate himself with missionary moorakhs and apologize to Akal Takhat or he can join his buddy Darshan Lal in irrelevancy and be kicked out of the panth.

I hope I didn't offend anyone with my post.

Fateh Ji.

I know what you're talking about.

It's performed by Bhai Amritpal Singh Sangroor Wale, former saathi of well known kirtanee Sant Niranjan Singh.

I recorded it off the radio one day. It's not as clear as the live recording. I'll upload it soon.