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^ completely agree & promise to do vids with Gurmat Sangeet in future.

BIG well done for organising this event.

please share recordings with Sangataan worldwide, if help is needed please get in touch.

BIG well done for organising upcoming Akhand Paat of Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji at Gurdwara Guroo Hargobind Sahib Jee.

please share recordings with Sangataan worldwide, if help is needed please get in touch.

also for distant sangat this event can be heard live?

http://www.amritbani.net/

or seen on

http://www.sikhchannel.tv/

anywhere worldwide? is that right?

really like the advert

Sikh channel is being influenced by various persons thats why they are not fuly promoting the barsi and dasm granth sehaj paat bhog, we have given them the money it costs, why are they not advertising like they did with lemington spaa and manchester

I personally know how much money has been payed by the sevadaars to bring this smagam to the homes of all sikhs in UK and Europe and as to why is isnt even being advertised to its full potential (as they have done with previosu programs...with the countdowns to live....ad every hour etc ect) is beyond me!

And only to find that the ticker that runs across the bottom fo the screen was only updated today with the barsi details and half heartedly aswel...half the information is missing and no inclusion of who is attending to sing the praises of maharaaj and do katha veechaar!!

its kinda annoying now!

A large proportion of subscriptions and funding to the Sikh channel comes from west midlands, particularly Birmingham. The channel also benefits from the support of GuruGhar like Smethwick GuruGhar where recordings are done.

The channel also benefits online, with publicity on various prominent websites and encouragement to subscribe and join the channel.

Despite full funding, the fact that there has been inconsistency in giving the Barsi and Sri Dasam Granth Sehaj Paat Programme less publicity than other like-for-like programmes...

will this not give supporters pause for thought?

daas has remained quiet up to now but i have a few questions for channel organisers on the forum:

how can Kulwant Dhesi remain a positive person to have as presenter after comments made on air about Dasam Bani & Darshan Sinh?

is the proportion of youngsters involved in the channel behind the scenes increasing?

if most of the presenters & sewadars are old folks will this mean that the channel will only last as long as they do? what does this mean for the long term viability and future of the channel?

how much do claims today pay for advertising? are any costs of britasia or other firms included in costs presented to sangat?

channel organisers know daas is very supportive of the channel but these are important questions.

on a side note, the Sri Dasam Granth Sehaj Paat is a very positive programme, please do attend and bring all the family. Big well done to the organisers.

channel management were offered video content of Sant Jarnail Singh Ji before the channel was even formed and it was just britasia but their response has remained negative on this.

i highly doubt the existence of any regulation preventing broadcast of his speeches because there are far, far more incendiary speeches broadcast of BNP in the name of "free speech". also channel organisers not only allow broadcast of anti Dasam Bani & Darshan Sinh supporters but allow them to be presenters.

hell even abu "captain hook" hamza & finsbury park madmen got primetime broadcast on mainstream channels

and before anyone says why dont YOU get involved - they have subscriptions from all my families but as far as further involvement goes: been there, done that, no thanks.

i received many hateful pms and responses saying i was a "jatt hater" lol

some people love dharam, others love their lineage.

i wish there was as many responses when a topic is posted on Gurbani or Sewa.

all those people who responded or pm hateful remarks, i am offering you an opportunity to do sewa online for dharmik parchaar. will you accept?

if you are sikh you love all peoples from every community. the problem is we have people running sikh institutions who do not have the mentality of a sikh. they just want to do Prabandh not Parchaar.

until our community does the Social Works e.g:

helping poor farmers who are committing suicide at alarming levels

take funds from construction of marble-facades and new GuruGhar and put it to educating youth

improving environment of punjab based on dharmik thinking, sustainable agriculture, re-planting trees

sikh drug and alcohol rehab treatment centres

sikh diabetes medical treatment

this would help but SGPC will not do this as they have to ask Badal for permission.

Sects like Sacha Sauda, DJJS are doing parchaar at Grassroots level very effectively.

apnepart2 everything you say is true - shame on everyone except jatt mentality because they are born perfect?

if thats true we have state run by Parkash Badal but why is punjab so full of deray, pakhandi gurus, drug addiction, crime, poverty and communal tension?

Mehtab Singh veerji that joke was inappropriate.

Same way as old churches in the west, Do we want to see situation where Deray of Sach Sauda, Ashotosh, etc are buying Ex-GuruGhar buildings in Punjab?

it may just be a publicity stunt. if not at least these are 1000 women who may possibly be helped out of their problems.

Our institutions are entirely controlled by Jatts who themselves or their children have no interest in sikhee. as Ambedkar and many prominent socialists have said, these Jatts do not want to see a situation where poor, "low-caste" people become Sikh as they would join in such numbers as to remove them from power.

We should declare we have NO faith in SGPC and those groups outside punjab should apply pressure that Social Work in Punjab be stepped up for underpriveleged people:

healthcare for the sick needing help

prisoners

"low-caste"/poor

education for the needy & switching away from traditional work

drug addicts

blood donation

these akali dal/sgpc types and their supporters should get slapped every time they step foot outside punjab.

excellent news - agree with the above it should be televised

Surinder Badal (wife of Parkash Badal) has followed Ashutosh for a long time

Surinder Badal (wife of Parkash Badal) has followed Ashutosh for a long time

forget dealing with ashutosh in punjab we cant even counter their propaganda in UK, they have a flat that they operate from in ealing, making fools out of old bibiaan.

they're usually there during the day as they go mandir in the evenings:

Divya Jyoti Jagrati Sansthan

020 88411993

Westway Ct

Ealing Rd,

Northolt,

Middlesex,

UB5 6AF

if nirankaris can afford to build big mandirs in uk i'm sure it wont be long til these lot also have one.

will Sant Ranjit Singh be more vocal in opposing the current Akali Dal Badal/SGPC/Akal Takht Jathedar status quo?

they are the reason our GuruGhars in punjab have no parchaar, financial mismanagement and have no time to help underpriveleged with their problems.

they arent even human beings let alone sikhs. looking at those prats if i was in punjab i'd probably want to go to pakhandi gurus for help, at least they seem interested, do blood donation camps, offer free schools & cut price food for the poor.

is that it? too little too late?

this could have been dealt with years ago. for some reason our "leaders" spend their entire time trivialising small issues to create divisions - they are just as bad as the morons they issue tankhaa to

any group that relies solely on controversy to spread their message usually have very little substance and base their entire existence on the inadequacies of the majority.

fact is, we dont read as much Dasam Paathshah Ki Bani as we should.

hence we have nobody else to blame and have no clue how to respond to attacks by people who have hardly read any Bani themselves but throw pointless allegations against our Guru.

if you are indeed genuinely interested in a quick intro to Dasam Bani & associated history:

Fantastic Album!

listen to the samples and get one HERE

Please could Sangat advise as to the next dates for Amrit Sanchars in West Midlands? if possible please provide contact names & telephone numbers as well.

Thanks!

Guru Pyare have begun an excellent endeavour. daas has seen more people brought together with single-minded devotion by this project than in quite a while. hope this is just the beginning..

Lets please keep bumping this topic with how many Chaupai Sahibs have been completed so far & submit yours to http://chaupaisahib.org/

1,350,950

WJKK WJKF

Veerji you already know this but Online Gurbani is full of errors. Majority of people dont research & blindly accept Gurbani websites as perfect but there are literally countless errors in these websites as they are all manmade.

from the few online sources i've done a little 5 second DIY transliteration botch job:

^wlsw soie ju inMdw iqAwgy ]

khhaalasaa soe j ni(n)dhaa thiaagae ||

Khalsa is the one who does not slander others

^wlsw soie lVy hÍY Awgy ]

khhaalasaa soe larrae hvai aagae ||

Khalsa is the one who fights in the front line

^wlsw so pridRSit iqAwgy ]

khhaalasaa so paradhrishatt thiaagae ||

Khalsa is the one who abandons sexual desire for others than the spouse

^wlsw soie nwm riq lwgy ]

khhaalasaa soe naam rath laagae ||

Khalsa is the one who is blessed with God's Name

^wlsw soie gurU ihq lwvY ]

khhaalasaa soe guroo hith laavai ||

Khalsa is the one who loves Waheguru

^wlsw soie swr muoh KwvY ]

khhaalasaa soe saar muoh khaavai ||

Khalsa is the one who fights bravely in battle

^wlsw so inrDn ko pwlY ]

khhaalasaa so niradhhan ko paalai ||

Khalsa is the one who helps the needy

^wlsw soie duSt kau gwlY ]

khhaalasaa soe dhushatt ko gaalai ||

Khalsa is the one who overpowers the enemy

^wlsw soie ju cVY qurMg ]

khhaalasaa soe j charrai thura(n)g ||

Khalsa is the one who becomes a crusader

^wlsw soie krY inq jMg ]

khhaalasaa soe karai nith ja(n)g ||

Khalsa is the one who fights the war daily against internal and external enemies

but the one on http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Khalsa seems different so am also confused lol

hopefully someone with a lot more knowledge than myself will help on this one as daas only has the online versions to hand as a source at the moment.

Kirtan by Bhai Gursharan Singh:

http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/audio/Kirta...0dusat%20jo.zip

hope i havent confused you further (i have that effect)

let's each try to invite minimum 10 people to every diwan who normally dont attend GuruGhar & be helpful in this way.

spread the word !!