There are no rules! Vaheguru has gave us a path and there are certain things we have to stick to to follow that path and they are NOT rules.
Well then please do explain the difference between hukkam and rules? Is it not Satgurus hukkam to follow Satguru Granth Sahib? Then if so why do we disobey his hukkam by not doing things in accordance to his will, which hqas been written in black and white. Please dont try and airy fairyfy things. There is no if no but, only Satgurus law and hukkam which is to follow Satguru |Granth Sahib the way satguru jis swaroop is, and that is to recite the Vaar of Raag Asa in raag asa, otherwise its pretty pointless. Its like me writing a song and its music and then others playing different music to the song i wrote.
Follow the Hukkam of satguru not ur own manmat!
so basicly ur saying that bhai sahib bhai randhir singh ji was on the rong boat, bhai jeevan singh ji on the wrong boat? umm no..i hope we can all agree there avastha was at a muuuchhhhh higher level then us and they didnt just do kirtan in raag....im all down for raag i love it and even do kirtan in it sometimes but that doesnt mean if u dont do kirtan in raag ur doing it rong..at the time of guru sahib raag is what people liked so to get our elephant like minds to actually pay attention to guru sahibs bani they did it in a way people liked...once they herd the bani they no longer cared about the tune but cared for the bani! also whats the point of fighting over tunes when the true bliss will come from the anhad shabad, which we will achieve when we stop fighting and start doing simran..
Of course you can listen to Asa Di Vaar whenever you want. Theres no restriction as to when you can and cannot read or listen Gurbani. Just because Asa Di Vaar is recited in the morning doesn't mean that the only time you can listen to it is in the morning. If I feel like doing Japji Sahib ji da paath, does that mean I have to wait until the wee hours of the morning? Will I not have the same effect of Japji Sahib if I do it in the afternoon or evening. Guru Sahib's bani is a treasure waiting to be opened...regardless of the time of day or night.
maybe this is off topic, and i dont mean to start an arguement or anything, but there are some banis that have a specific time to do them..... and if u do them at wrong time, they leave wrong results.......
i think the sing is talking about chandi di vaar....read sant baba harnam singh jis book..
Veer jee you are asking what is the point over fighting over tunes, however we are not fighting over tunes, we are fighting to keep alive the message of Guru jee. If people start saying there is no need for kirpana today because people needed them in them 300 years ago and not today, will you take yours off because its what the majority say? Guru jee never did things to please the majority. The problem which alot of people have is that guru jee told us to do kirtan in raag, it was not that people liked raag back in the gurus time which makes us want to do kirtan in raag, its the fact that guru jee is telling us to do kirtan in raag, just as guru Gobind Singh jee told us to be panj kakkari Khalsa (including a kirpan, not tied to some string as people do today).
Har utam har prabh Gavia, kar naad bilawal Raag.
Why should we go against guru jees updesh as above?
Its important to do simran just as it is important to live in the real world and try to contribute to preserving the heritage and message which our gurus gave us, there is no point doing what the brahmans did when babar attacked them. They started doing their tantar and mantars rather than addressing the issue, which was picking up their shaster. Today our battle is to preserve our heritage and kirtan and we have lost so much already, if we are going to sit and do simran and ignore the issues we face in preserving our history, then we are no different from the brahmans who watched babar walk all over their heritage and people.
True, but I say we blame that <banned word filter activated> e r AKJ who wanted Asa Di Vaar in 'AKJ' style, he's the one that started this <banned word filter activated>.
