sher_panjabi

I watched the video during my chaa da cup break.

OMG!

there's another video on YouTube.com of the "Sikh" man supporting BNP. I couldn't stop laughing and smiling. Nearly spilt my chaa while laughing. Waheguroo. :lol:

Check this video as well:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6758617648491399062

Waheguroo. I couldn't stop laughing at how the man has tied his pagh. He might be a "On off " Singh and decided to quickly tie a pagh 2 minutes before the interview without looking in a mirror or something.

Waheguroo. Better get back to revision.

Possible template letter you can copy and paste:

Dear [MP NAME],

I am contacting you in regards to metal detectors being introduced on the London Underground. I am a practising Sikh who wears a Kirpan (a ceremonial sword) which is an article of faith, part of the 5K's Sikh uniform. I am concerned about how these metal detectors in the London Underground and also some train stations (such as New Street station, Birmingham) will affect me and fellow Sikhs.

Legally Sikhs are permitted to wear the Kirpan and practice their faith freely in accordance to the Criminal Justice Act 1988. However, from past experience it is evident that security staff is not always aware of Sikhs, never mind the Kirpan. However, after explaining about the Kirpan the problem is usually overcome. But it is unnecessary hassle and inconvenience, which can be easily avoided with appropriate training.

I request you to please find out how the metal detectors being used by the London Transport will affect Sikhs and whether the London Transport staff and police have received guidelines and training on Sikhs travelling on the Underground, and whether the legal right to wear the Kirpan will be safeguarded.

Please reply back with a response.

Yours sincerely,

[YOUR NAME]

Just found out that in West Midlands metal dectectors have also been introduced at New Street Station.

News Article:

http://news.billinge.com/1/hi/england/west...nds/4926246.stm

Crackdown on knives

Written by Paula

Monday, 24 April 2006

THE fight against knife attacks is stepping up a gear. Police have been targeting transport hubs using an airport-style metal detector. If the detector bleeps, officers search passengers to see if they are carrying a weapon.

At Stockwell Tube station last week 205 people were asked to walk through the arch. One blade was seized and five people were found with drugs. The blitz is part of Operation Shield - a task force targeting knife crime across the capital.

Speaking about the crack-down, British Transport Police Detective Chief Inspector Kevin Shananhan said: "We need to stop people carrying knives and this task force is a positive way of achieving our goal. "It won't be easy but these operations will make a difference.

"If people know they cannot carry a weapon without the fear of coming face-to-face with one of our officers they may think twice. "Young men are the worst offenders. "They are most likely to carry weapons and therefore use them.

"Some people say they carry a knife because they are afraid of street crime or have in the past been a victim.

"But that is no excuse at all. If you are carrying a knife you are probably breaking the law. "The simple message is don't do it."

In Britain, a knife crime is committed every 25 minutes and 80 per cent of attackers are aged between 12 and 20. In a recent MORI poll 29 per cent of secondary school pupils admitted carrying a blade.

DCI Shananhan added: "We pick up people for other things as well when we use the arch detector. "People who carry knives are often wanted by us for other crimes. "That could be drugs offences or even fare dodging on the transport network."

Link

Can Sangat please email or write to their MP to find out whether Sikhs will be safeguarded by these metal detectors and that security staff will be trained. Rab Na Kare, that Gursikhs are stopped and asked to remove Kirpaans on tubes and trains because we did get appropriate feedback and response in early stages of the decision.

You can find out who your MP is from the link below:

Write to your MP

bhul chuk maaf.

Someone called "Nicola" spoke to me.

She said that the family are being notified of the various complaints.

Let's hope the family wakes up!

bhul chuk maaf.

I got a very quick reply from the Magna Centre.

From: "Magna-Events" <Events@magnatrust.co.uk>

Subject: RE: SERIOUS COMPLAINT

Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 11:58:48 +0100

Dear Manvir,

Thank you for your email, please note the management and staff at Magna are taking the matter very seriously, have spoken to the client and he situation is been dealt with.

Thank you again,

Magna Event Team

You can use this email as a template. You can simply COPY and PASTE. Please do your PANTHIC DUTY and AT LEAST PHONE and EMAIL the MAGNA HOTEL management (It's not that difficult and will only take a few minutes (if that) of your time). Guru Rakha.

To: events@magnatrust.co.uk

CC: macshaned@parliament.uk

Subject: SERIOUS COMPLAINT

Dear Magna,

I am emailing you in regards to a wedding which has been booked for 7th May 2006 at the Magna Adventure Centre in Rotherham.

The marriage party is planning to have a Sikh religious wedding ceremony in the Magna Centre, which will involve bringing 'Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji', the Sikhs' Sacred Scripture, which the Sikhs regard with utmost reverence and sanctity. The Sikh's Supreme Authority has banned the Sacred Scripture, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, from being taken to places where there is alcohol, tobacco or meat served. It clearly has been said that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not allowed to be taking to banqueting halls, hotels, pubs or bars. Therefore, this a clear violation of the Sikhs religious sentiments.

There have been previous cases recently where families planning weddings have disregarded the sanctity and sacredness of the Sikh's Scripture and have violated the edict of the Sikh supreme authority. These incidents have led to large peaceful protests outside venues with Sikhs from across the UK coming to support these measures, and also police involvement and support.

The British police have been supportive of the Sikh community. Recently the police issued a statement that a Sikh wedding planned at the Royal Lancaster Hotel London was re-arranged, so that the wedding will take place in a nearby Sikh Gurdwara (place of worship) rather than in the hotel complex. The decision of stopping the Sikh wedding at the Hotel came about as the Hotel was overflown with Sikhs from across the UK phoning, and emailing trying to educate the Hotel about the Sikh sentiments and issue.

We hope you will also realise the seriousness of the issue and prevent any unnecessary large peaceful protests.

Here are some links to news articles regarding previous cases which have cause unnecessary hassle to the Sikh community:

* http://www.panthic.org/news/124/ARTICLE/1887/2005-10-16.html

* http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0...1515545,00.html

* http://www.panthic.org/news/124/ARTICLE/1784/2005-09-18.html

* http://www.panthic.org/news/131/ARTICLE/1450/2005-06-19.html

I hope you take this matter severely, and prevent any unnecessary peaceful protests by the Sikh community from across the UK by not allowing the disrespect and violation of the Sikh's sacred scripute, Guru Granth Sahib Ji, from happening on your hotel premises.

I would like a reply as soon as possible, as Sikhs across the country are planning to hold peaceful protests outside the hotel if the Sacred Scriptures, Guru Granth Sahib Ji, is brought to the Centre complex.

Regards,

[NAME]

I sent a copy of the email to the local MP of Rotherham. His email is: macshaned@parliament.uk

Hope Giani Ji comes to Southall and does Katha!

I like Giani Ji's Katha and Paath... he has a very soft, clear and well paced voice (as well loads of Giaan).

:lol:

kabeer bhaaNg maachhulee suraa paan jo jo praanee khaahi

Kabeer, those mortals who consume marijuana, fish and wine

teerath barat nem keee-e te sabhai rasaatal jaahi

- no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. ||233||

(ang 1377)

bhau teraa bhaaNg, khalaRee meraa cheet

The Fear of You, O Lord God, is my marijuana; my consciousness is the pouch which holds it.

(Ang 721)

There's a difference between SIKHI and what people claiming to be "SIKHS".

I know a lot of Gore who would say "I've been to ten "SIKH" weddings and they all drink alcohol like there's no tomorrow." What does this prove about Sikhi? Nothing! Gurbani is our indication for what Sikhi is, not men who are drugged up on cannabis.

bhul chuk maaf.

I've been reading the various posts.

There is a difference between singing poetry about Sikh history or in praise of the Guru/ Waheguru and TWISTING GURBAANI.

Kachee Baani is the following:

1. Changing the words around in a shabad.

2. Adding your own words to a Shabad (even the smallest word like adding "Jee" to a word in a shabad).

3. Impersonating Gurbaani (i.e. the style and presentation or using the word "Naanak" like it is used in Gurbaani).

Baba Ram Rai did the above - he changed a word in Gurbaani to suite his own agenda.

Another example of this is "Sant" Maan Singh singing the shabad "pehilaa maran kabool jeevan kee chhadd aas" as "pehlaa maran kabool "KAR" jeevan kee chhad aas". This constitutes as KACHEE BANI as it has been MUTILATED.

Sant Jarnail Singh Ji did NOT impersonate Gurbaani, nor did he add his own words when reciting Gurbaani. Same goes for Dhadhi Singhs.

Bhul chuk maaf.

OMG! After reading that news article clip I needed to catch my breath and say "WAHEGURU" a few times! Rab Bhalla Kare, Bhalla Kare!

It said in the news clip: "The annual event is held to commemorate the martyrdom of Guru Arjan Dev Ji..." and then I looked at the photographs which include these ladies which seem to have forgotten to wear their clothes and a young man randomly standing with them (looks like he is dancing with them). Waheguru.

Sachee, I've just had breakfast and felt queasy and sick reading that line in the newsclip and then looking at the photos. In the media world their is a phrase that "A photo speaks a thousand words". WHAT IMPRESSION is this giving to non-Sikhs of how we celebrate Guru Sahib's SHAHEEDI... what next? (Don't want to think about it! Wahegurooo).

I am not pro-Bhangra/Giddha in Nagar Kirtans or religious programmes but I got to say I would rather look at some people dressed in Kurte, wearing bright pink paghs, and a tambaa wrapped around them or watch some Auntian doing Giddha and clapping their hands rather than watching seeing semi-nude women which is embarrassing to look at.

If they can afford doing a Kabbadi Tournament, I am sure they can afford to pay these poor ladies to wear some clothes and look respectable rather than show off their bellies to the Sangat. Sat Naam, Waheguru.

Rab Rakha, Sabhnaa Ka Rakha.

I heard that Bhai Ranjit Singh Ji Dhadrianwale promotes Gurmat Rehit of Dastaar should be worn by both men and women.

Out of interest, in the Amrit Sanchaars organised by him, do all women have to tie a Dastaar (i.e. a requirement)?

Here is an email I sent to Dear Thistle Hotel London, which others can use or use parts of to send to these people. (It can't get EASIER than that. So please EVERYONE do your PANTHIC DUTY and prevent Beadbi of Guru Ji).

To: peter@kanchansgroup.com, Tower@guoman.com

CC:

Subject: Serious Complaint

I am emailing you in regards to a wedding which has been booked for 30th April 2006 at the Thistle Hotel in East London.

The marriage party is planning to have a Sikh religious wedding ceremony in the Thistle Hotel, which will involve bringing 'Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji', the Sikhs' Sacred Scripture, which the Sikhs regard with utmost reverence and sanctity. The Sikh's Supreme Authority has banned the Sacred Scripture, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, from being taken to places where there is alcohol, tobacco or meat served. It clearly has been said that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not allowed to be taking to banqueting halls, hotels, pubs or bars. Therefore, this a clear violation of the Sikhs religious sentiments.

There have been previous cases recently where families planning weddings have disregarded the sanctity and sacredness of the Sikh's Scripture and have violated the edict of the Sikh supreme authority. These incidents have led to peaceful protests outside venues with Sikhs from across the UK coming to support these measures, and also police involvement.

The British police have been supportive of the Sikh community. Recently the police issued a statement that a Sikh wedding planned at the Royal Lancaster Hotel London was re-arranged, so that the wedding will take place in a nearby Sikh Gurdwara (place of worship) rather than in the hotel complex. The decision of stopping the Sikh wedding at the Hotel came about as the Hotel was overflown with Sikhs from across the UK phoning, and emailing trying to educate the Hotel about the Sikh sentiments and issue.

We hope you will also realise the seriousness of the issue and prevent any unnecessary large peaceful protests.

Here are some links to news articles regarding previous cases which have cause unnecessary hassle to the Sikh community:

* http://www.panthic.org/news/124/ARTICLE/1887/2005-10-16.html

* http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0...1515545,00.html

* http://www.panthic.org/news/124/ARTICLE/1784/2005-09-18.html

* http://www.panthic.org/news/131/ARTICLE/1450/2005-06-19.html

I hope you take this matter severely, and prevent any unnecessary peaceful protests by the Sikh community from across the UK by not allowing the disrespect and violation of the Sikh's sacred scripute, Guru Granth Sahib Ji, from happening on your hotel premises.

I would like a reply as soon as possible, as Sikhs across the country are planning to hold peaceful protests outside the hotel if the Sacred Scriptures, Guru Granth Sahib Ji, is brought to the Hotel complex.

Regards,

Benti to those living in East London:

1. Please CONTACT YOUR LOCAL MP (George Galloway). You can do this through the link below:

http://www.writetothem.com/

2. Please EMAIL YOUR LOCAL COUNCIL. You can do this through the link below:

https://webforms.towerhamlets.gov.uk/AF3/an...ame=JkKOxYv6zOR

3. RING Hate crime reporting: 0800 138 0521

To report any kind of hate crime anonymously including, racial and other kinds of harassment motivated by someone’s age, disability, faith or sexual orientation. Your information will then be passed on to the appropriate council team for a report to be filed and for action if necessary.

Daas' suggestion for possible ways of Parchaar:

* Panjab needs POSITIVE Gursikh ROLE MODELS

.... At the moment men, women, old and young watch television and films like its a religion or something!

* Youth involvement.

... Be honest what is there to do for kids living in the village in Panjab? Gurmat Classes? Gatka Classes? Kirtan classes? Projects need to be started where people could involved in ACTIVE EXPLORATION and LEARNING.

* Educate mothers

... Have literacy programmes for mothers, classes for mothers to learn basic Gurmat, Kirtan, Gurbani etc as well as basic parenting skills (i.e. how to communicate and inspire your children).

At the moment Guru Ghars in India (in fact most places in the world!) are "SIKH TEMPLES" (i.e. places of WORSHIP) when actually Guru Sahib made the Gurdwara as a place for obtaining WISDOM, EDUCATION, SUPPORT, INSPIRATION and CONNECTING with Guru Sahib.

The above suggestions are more for bodies like SGPC to carry out.

On individual basis what we can do is when we go to India and stay with family then use the time to sit with the family do Gurmat Vichaar, start a routine of doing collective Rehraas Sahib da Paath, Sukhmani Sahib in the afernoon etc.... Tell the young children in the house or village stories about Guru Sahibs. Ask time at the local village Gurdwara on Sangrand (the day when everyone goes to the Gurdwara) and do Keertan, Katha or whatever you can do (basically share some food for thought and share a little inspiration from Gurbani).

bhul chuk maaf.

I think this bloke has been around for a while. His vichaar are so PATHETIC that no one cares or is bothered . However its worrying to know that he visits hospitals (no doubts posing as a Sikh chaplain/volunteer and instead spreading his Jesus views).

I remember he sent a few emails on Sikh e-groups but then I think he got blocked.

We should have "general awareness" but I wouldn't give this man more credit than he deserves! His articles are long, boring, and frankly I feel like going to sleep when reading them! :lol: (sorry forget to say that they are pretty silly content as well).

His website (which he advertised in emails sent on Internet):

Mr. Nijjhar's (dodgy and boring) website

I don't know much about this bloke other than what I have read on his website and this article on Tapoban. Does anyone have any further info?

Practice makes perfect.

When at home try to sit cross-legged as much as you can so that your legs get used to it.

For example sit cross-legged on sofa when watching tele etc.

Gradually build up the amount of time you sit cross-legged and you will feel no pain.

Khalsa4Ever Jee,

Daas is logged in as Adminstrator - it makes no difference :lol:

Rab Jaane who these "Group Policy" people are!

Can anyone help me.

I am trying to ENABLE the FIRE WALL on my laptop. However, when I go to Control Panel > Fire Wall and try to enable it - I CANT DO IT. The options are NOT OPEN for change. Instead at the top of the box it says this:

"For your security, some settings are controlled by Group Policy"

Its a private laptop. I had this problem since I sent it off to get repaired by Sony (which I weren't too impressed by because they charged me loads of money just to get the letter "o" replaced on the keyboard. chalo).

Anyone know what I can do?

No. Its NOT True.

Its SYMBOLIC LANGUAGE used in CULTURE to explain the seat of throne being giving to another person.

For example when Queen Elizabeth II became Queen of England, the Indian newspapers wrote in headlines, "Elizabeth noo Raaj Tilak dittaa gayiaa" (meaning, Elizabeth has been given the Tilak of Rule".

Did Elizabeth wear a Tilak? NO.

Bhaji I read your post and couldn's stop laughing (obviously not funny for you at the time! )

Why was the man RUBBING YOUR BACK. Waheguru. And HE WAS A STRANGER! :lol: (I would have freaked out!).

In India when people ask me for money I pretend to be from India (which usually washes down okay). They soon back off! :T:

I suggest you tell an elder, the Gurdwara ParDhaan, local Gursikh or the Granthi Singh. Ensure that this man is not in a situation where he can indoctrinate innocent children. Sadly brainwashing kids is often used by Pakhandi groups to break people away from Guru Granth-Guru Panth.

Here are some useful articles for you:

" Who says 'Sri Granth' is Guru? "

" Guru Maaniyo Granth. "

Thanks.

I will the aunty jee know about Soho Road and Amrit Parchaar Diwaan.

anyone?

Someone has asked me if I can help find out details of an Amrit Sanchaar happening near them. The aunty jee wants to take Amrit. The person lives near Reading. They are willing to travel to Coventry or London for Amrit Sanchaar.

They said they cant go too far because they have several younger children and so can't travel too long distance.

The aunty jee wants to take Amrit soon... so anyone can help then please let me know.

Thanks.

1. eyku mrY pMcy imil rovih ] (Ang 413)

According to Professor Sahib Singh Ji - pMcy= swk sMbMDI (mW ipau, Brw, iesq®I, puq®)

Therefore English translation is:

"When one dies, their relatives (i.e. 1. mother, 2. father, 3. brother, 4. sister & 5. spouse) meet and mourn the person's death."

2. xwxw rix rUqau, nr nyhI krY ] nw invY nw Puin sMcrY ] DMin jnmu qwhI ko gxY ] mwrY eykih qij jwie GxY ]21] {pMnw 341}

Panjabi translation:

ArQ :—(jgq rUp ies) rxBUmI ivc (ivkwrW nwl jMg ivc) ru`Jw hoieAw jo mnu`K ivkwrW ƒ v`s ivc krn dI smr`Qw pRwpq kr lYNdw hY jo (ivkwrW Agy) nwh nIaUNdw hY, nwh hI (auhnW nwl) myl krdw hY, jgq ausy mnu`K dy jIvn ƒ BwgW vwlw igxdw hY, ikauNik auh mnu`K (Awpxy) ie`k mn ƒ mwrdw hY qy iehnW bhuiqAW (Bwv, ivkwrW) ƒ C`f dyNdw hY [21[

English translation:

The warrior who fights (vikaars, i.e. immorality/wickedness/corruption) on the battle-field (of life) and keeps them pressed (and controlled), does not yield (before Vikaars), and nor does he meet up (with them). The world considers that person's life and coming to the world blessed and fortunate, because that person conquers (his) one mind and renounces the many (i.e. renounces the many Vikaars). ||21||

Note: The above shabad is from "Baavan Akhri" which is goes through letters from alphabet and using the letter a shabad is given.... so in this case the Panjabi letter "NaaNaa" (x)is used to talk about "RaN" (rix), which means battlefield.

Hope that helps.