manni007

Funny but every where u go nowadays in UK , you see muslim kebab shops, halal meat shops, islam book shops, mosques and muslim women wearing hijabs or muslims guys with hats and turbans! Lately I even seen muslim shops advertising Hijabs in the shop windows (Birmingham - Soho Road, High Street , Hayes and Southall Broadway)

You believe the Pakistani govt GAVE sikhs money?? lol please provide evidence! Panja sahib is sheltering 3000 sikhs and some muslims? This shows the KINDNESS of SIKHS not Muslims Demonstrations? I'll tell you demonstrations against that fact that SIKHS are having to pay TAX Rs 1000 per year to Taliban for being Sikh, IF THE Pakistan govt want to help, why dont they pay this rs 1000 on behalf of these poor sikh families? If they cant stop the Taliban? You belive this media garbage bout Pakistani govt fighting Taliban? well its the Pakistani govt that FUNDED them and raised them since 1994! Ps : If the Pakistani govt kills 10, to please America NOT Sikhs, it raises 1000 new TALIBAN in its Madrassas! I would like to demonstrate against Siksh being forced to pay tax fro being Siksh, liek itsp some sort of punishment, as the Pakistani govt are in power and are NOT willing to stop this, they should PAY this tax on our sikhs behalf! ITS FUNNY HOW MANY SIKHS TODAY WILL FIND WAYS TO FIGHT WITH EACHOTHER TO JUSTIFY THE ACTIONS OF THE ENEMY! Anyone who watches the abvoe videos and Justifys Islamic tyranny, and does not do anything ABOUT it, is a waste of space!

AK47 JATTHA LION SAID : [b]"In Birmingham however, I heard bout some singhs getting slapped up during the Pakistan victory celebrations. "[/b] True, I heard similair stuff happended in Leicester. It seems the Pakistani strength is more in the northern areas, but Birmingham was traditionally punjabi sikh, and its sad to hear MUSLIM power is growing here. BABBARKHALISTANI SAID : Pakis are all the same. I was at Lords the other day and these young pakis were very vocal, shouting pakistan zindabad and allah hu akbar......, one gora had objection to it and subsequently had alteracation with this paki mob who shouted and chanted at him as he was a upper stands and soon complained to police ................ I was particluarly surprised to see the police reaction who witnesed eerything and yet didn't remove no paki as they were stirring major trouble. One thing's for sure, Pakis play the racism card very well. My sentiments exactly the Police seem almost uneasy to approach the Pakis, I honestly can say they saw Pakis yell at the Singh near the burger stall, "take that rag of yer head or we'll rip it off" and they saw the Singh have the Pakistani flag put over his head and beer poured over it head and did NOTHING On a positive note I spoke to someone from Notts county cricket club and also emailed them , and they are going to take action,to make things more Secure in the future GillAUS said it PERFECTLY : Some of the replies this thread has gotten has astounded me. All those people writing comments such as 'oh he was wearing an indian top/flag, he deserved it' or 'oh he was drinking a beer, he deserved it' should seriously get their heads out of their backsides. Firstly, leave it to God and Guru ji to judge the individual's Sikhi - that's not for us to do. Secondly, like it our not, such people are also Sikhs. We should be helping other Sikhs out, not deriding them for their individual practices. Hey, maybe if you help them out, it could give them some encouragement to become better Sikhs? Come on guys, with this kind of attitude, no wonder these Pakis think they can get the upper hand! Wake up ppl.

Here are some further facts : In 1947, after partition SIKHS and Hindus represented 40 per cent of Pakistan population, today represent 1 per cent. Christians represent 2 per cent and muslims represent 97 per cent. What happened ? How did 40 per cent decrease to 1 per cent in 62 years? MILLIONS of Sikhs have been forcibly converted, or killed in a matter of 62 years, and its because the Sikh leadership and the governments fo the so caled free world, ie England, India, America have ignored the issue. WE MUST DO SOMETHING NOW : (I) MAYBE CREATE FLYERS/PAMPHLETS TO AND DISTRIBUTE THEM TO OUR LOCAL GURDWARAS (II) SHOW THESE youtube VIDEOS IN OUR GURDWARAS OR EMAIL THE LINKS to other sikhs (III) SPEND SOME MONEY AND DONATE IT TO SIKH REFUGEES IN PAKISTAN (IV) WRITE TO OUR MP'S TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE PAKSITANI EMBASSY (V) ORGANISE A DEMO OUTSIDE PAKSITAN EMBASSY I TRUST THERE WILL BE AT LEAST A HANFUL OF PEOPLE WHO WILL BE WILLING TO JOIN ME AND MAKE AN "EFFORT"

U are completely wrong. U obviously havent bothered watching the videos I have listed above. 3,000 sikhs are having to live in gurdwara as refugees, TO ME that si not a fraction, to me 3 are too many! With respect to it being a sikh - muslim issue , why dont you watch the videos above with Sikhs saying that they are having to pay a TAX ( Jiziya ) for being Sikh? The muslims living in Pakistan dont have to pay this tax, and it is PLAIN wrong You are also wrong when you talk about SWAT valley, as this problem is not only limited to this area, it is widespread all over Pakistan

Coincidentally this was highlighted on panorama this evening on bbc at 8.30pm, they showed sikh refugees living at panja sahib gurdwara in pakistan due to fear of being taxed 4 being sikh or killed by taliban

I expalined dat I cudnt risk my elderly fathers safety by gettin into a fight wiv so many pakistanis, and for what? To be told dat I was wrong 2 help a singh wearin an indian top? Some people on this site need 2 grow up, ps this was only 3 days ago, no singh shud hav beer spilled on his head, no matter if he supports india sarpanch,learn wot true sikhi is. Hsd , ur right in what u say. Most sikhs find excuses not 2 stick up 4 eachother, I wonder how many of u emailed the people at da ground or called, cause it will make a difference.

I hope you people take 5 mins out of your busy lives to watch these videos, and SUGGEST what action we can take from here? How about a march outside the Pakistani embassy? How leaflets distributed in our gurdwaras? I am willing to spend my time and money to help are you? We cant go back in time and right the wrongs of the past, but THIS is somethign we CAN do somethign about!

Good point Jeevan mate, but the problem is WE have to do something OURSELVES, I have written and called Notts ground, but I urge you to do the same. Please use different wording as I dont want it to look like its from the same person. That image of the Singh being man handled by 2 Pakistanis , then having the Pakistani flag put over his head , then grabbed by the throat and having beer poured over his head, has caused me sleepless nights and lit a fire in me, that i never thought i had. I feel bad that i didnt get up and fight for him, i told myslef it was because I was with my dad who is in hsi 60's adn i didnt want to endanger him, BUT I dont truly know if i would have joined if if my dad wasnt there!

Most sikhs families have raised their 2 children to become lawyers Dr's, accountants and honoury members of society and kept them away from violence while Pakistanis are still where they were in the 1970's and have raised their 8 children to become gang members, and drug pushers. Pakistanis are a lot more violent and aggressive than us sikhs and are more into crime, and gangs As the former punjabi dominated places like Birmingham Southall, Coventry become more polluted with muslims from Pakistan,Afghnaistan, Somalia, Algeria, Iraq, Iran and Turkey, PAKISTANIS are growing more confident. The old days of Holy Smokes , nungs and Shere Punjab striking fear in Pakistan hearts is truly over, nowadays Pakistanis openly come to Punjabi areas to diss / fight sikhs (remember the Muslim mob outside Iceland, in Southall a couple of years ago?) , in the 1908's they would have got murdered by the Holy smokes and nungs!

Sikhs in INDIA protest against Taliban treatement of SIKHS in PAKISTAN : 3,000 Sikhs seeking shelter/refuge in Panja Sahib Nanaksar, Pakistan gurdwara due fear of Muslim violence Pakistani taliban making Sikhs pay tax for being SIKH?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18b_YQSSpjE Protest by VHP in Jammu demanding fair treatment of sikhs in PAKISTAN Taliban levy tax on sikhs Sikhs fear Pakistan violence Sikhs protest in Ambala Punjab India against President of Pakistan, burn his effigy and against Pakistan Govt and Taliban

the sad fact that these people think they can commit such heinour racist acts openly in cricket grounds is a travesty, just imagine how the sikhs living in muslim countires must feel and what they must go through? It doesnt matter who you are or who u support, u shudnt be sworn at adn have another countries flag draped over your head and have beer poured over you

30 mosques in Berlin , germany alone. However lets look at the UK Bradford, Yorkshire, Edinburgh, Luton, Slough, Manchester, Cardiff, even more traditionally punjabi places like Birmingham, Southall, Coventry now have a larger muslim population

WJK WJKF I am sorry,I am starting my association with this website by having to write about several unfortunate incidents I witnessed whilst attending what I thought would be a friendly 20twenty semi final at Nottingham Cricket ground. Whilst attending the said event, I was simply astounded by the amount of racism levied at SIKHS by the majority PAKISTANI fans in attendance. The behaviour exeplified by these, I'm sorry to say, "fans" would not look out of place during a Millwall football match in the 1980's. Examples inc : 1. A SIKH waiting in the queue for fish n chips was told by a Pakistani fan draped in the Pakistani flag " take that rag of yer head or we'll rip it off" these were followed by more imaginative chants such as "f**k u Indians , f**k u Indians"???? 3. An SIKH male, 5.8 wearing an Indian top was walking towards his seat at the front of the ground with his friend, ( News stand), was immediately, booed and jeered at by Pakistani fans, with all sorts of swearing in Urdu directed towards him. He was then set upon by two Pakistanis, who ran up to him, waving fists by the side of his head, (fist sign which means b*llo*k, im sure u know), aimed i guess at the fact that he was wearing an Indian top. They then proceeded to cover his head with the Pakistan flag and choke him out, and one of the Pakistani men, snatched his beer and poured it over his head. The Pakistani crowd (young and old, inc women) cheered in approval, then began the RACIST chant "who let the SINGHS OUT, WOOF, WOOF! The police who were merely 10 metres away, very casually made there way towards the trouble/assault. BY the time they got there, the perpetrators had already fled. I was there with my father who is in his 60's and i didnt want to get involved in a fight for fear of both his and my own safety. 4. I also heard Pakistanis saying threaten to gang rape an Indian lady, in her late 50's ealry 60's because she told them to stop swearing at Singhs? 5. I saw South African supporters being surrounded by Pakistani supporters dancing around them hollering obscenities 6. Another Indian sikh was told to take his India top off, or it would get "ripped off". He was then grabbed pushed agaisnt a barricade. 7. Other Pakistani men hurled abuse at Sikh women, they could tell they were indian/sikhs from the karas It seems that the Muslim/Pakistani unity/numbers/aggression and HATRED of Sikhs is growing, while many in our community are forgetting the unsavoury, hostiel attitiude these people have against us. I emailed Notts cricket ground about this and urge all of you to do the same. derekbrewer@notts.co.uk or call 0115 982 3000 thank you.