GuptSingh84

Get the facts straight, Kashmir wasn't awarded to Dogras.

Dogras took 75 lakhs from LAHORE KHALSA TREASURE and BHOUGHT it from the British.

So Bijla Singh, when are you putting it online ?

Jassa, maybe you haven't studied history, but 1699 accounts do exist. That too from that time.

Its not because Sants or Scholars don't mention them that they don't exist.

Sants mostly read from Granths such as Dasam, Sarbloh, Suraj Prakash, Panth Parkash (new + old), Bansawlinama etc or Rehatnamas.

New manuscripts are being discovered in libraries, with Sikh families etc.

I don't say this account is true, I heard same claim that there is no Aligarh manuscript, but to say that they (1699 ones) don't exist is not a wise thing to do.

VahegurooJiKaKhalsaVahegurooJiKiFateh!

Guru Gobind Singh Ji, GOD HIMSELF, keeps his hair and took amrit, how important must it be if GOD himself keeps it?

ਸੋ ਮੁਖੁ ਜਲਉ ਜਿਤੁ ਕਹਹਿ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਜੋਨੀ ॥੩॥

So mukẖ jala▫o jiṯ kahėh ṯẖākur jonī. ||3||

Let that mouth be burnt, which says that the Lord takes birth. ||3||

Its authentic?

Yes please do put it online.

Hmm so i wrap them around in kapreh? But don't they pass that luggage thru that metal detector??

Will they check baggage that goes apart? Does it beep in that x ray machine?

Oh, my cousin came last year n he saw one guy getting stopped for having big kirpaan at Amritsar.

Hmm do i need to cover the kirpans? Can i also bring one axe?

Do knuckle dusters, kirpans, axes come on x ray stuff?

Ya no pellet gun haha

I am going to Punjab in a few weeks, and intend to bring a couple of Kirpans (14 inch and maybe 2 foot) and 2-3 knuckles dusters...

The opinion of people is REALLY mixed. While most say its possible IN CHECKED IN Luggage (not handbag other) others say its not allowed.

Most people say they covered it in Kapreh (clothes) and bhought it. Last year someone bhought in Gandaseh (axes) in clothes from Amritsar...

Does anyone know clearly on this? And what is procedure if I can bring them...

Waheguru

Ek Oankaar

My moustache started growing at 12 and at 14 I had a beard.

I love my muchhaannnnnnnn

What is the name of the 5 Muktas?

xPreetx, Desraj Singh is right. We shouldn't believe anything blindly.

Guru Nanak travelled in Africa and Europe, agreed. But we should have more proof for visits of 6th Guru to Africa. I am ready to believe it, but it is very suspicious if we even don't know of 6th Gurus visits outside India, and then some go on to claim Guru went to Africa...

A Fake Bani. Along with other Bani's it was inserted after 9th Guru's martyrdom. Sikhs did good by removing it. IT is called Bhai Banno wali recension (which has many extra fake compositions at the end)

Jit Dar Lakh Muhamda

Ataash Aab

Rattanmala

some say when these were added Raagmala too was added (AKJ, others).

Taksali and other Singhs maintain that Raagmala is Bani and the other added compositions such as Rattanmala were fake.

haha this desraj guy is a classic

jattworld is a good site for you to do burr burr bura and fefre checking can be done with the doc.

Marry her and make her Sikh. Then all is fine, Guru Kirpa.

I have it.

Sandhu was a smart and clever guy. One of the most controversial figures of Kharkoo movement though.

Very sad.

Pakistani Sikhs should indeed move on to Punjab and Sindh areas of Pakistan, where there are also historical gurdwaras and where its "safe".

A Good Sikh who is a star, as in film personality or something along the line.

We have Sonny Cabberwal and Waris Ahluwalia, but they are not that famous (,yet?).

Sikhs in Politics. We have got as much Punjabis (not Sikhs but still) in the Canadian Parliament as the Indian Parliament, quite an achievement, no?

There are more Sikhs in UK, so it should be easier to have more Sikhs than Canada in politics. British Sikhs are far from politics, I wonder why.

Mod note: Veer ji, i have edited sone of the post. Is it not possible to post without taking a dig at your fellow Sikhs? Maybe you need to do a Mool MAntar Jaap to control your vair? In future, please think before posting. Dhanvaad.

Khalsa doesn't have a Gayatri Mantra. This and other mantars like Ashtang Mantar, Bhagauti Mantar "systems have been devised by Wily people to lure us into their web of stories and illogical systems and break us away from "prachand" gyaan of "nirol" Gurmat. "

An interesting article:

Author: Kulbir Singh

Date: 08-08-06 14:42

This is a good topic. In my humble opinion and from what I have read in the books of Gursikhs, there is only one mantra and that is Gurmantra. True, all Gurbani is Mantr-roop and you can japp any shabad and get rewarded but still Gurmantra is the hukam of Gurbani. Mool Mantr, Beej Mantra, Gurmantr, Mala Mantr etc are all referred to Naam-Gurmantr. What they call Mool Mantr is in reality Manglacharan.

Beej Mantr Sarb ko Gyaan||

Chahu Varna me japai koyoo Naam||

These two pankitis mean that Naam or Beej Mantra roopi Gyaan is for everyone. It does not matter whether one is Brahman, Kshatri, Vaish or Shudra. This is for everyone.

The second pankiti makes it clear that Beej Mantr is referred to as Naam i.e. Gurmantr.

This whole pauri describes the greatness of Naam. The later pankitis of this pauri are the famous pankitis about Naam:

Sarb Rog ka Aukhad Naam||

Kaliyan roop Mangal gunn Gaam||

Naam is the medicine of all diseases. Naam is Kaliyan-roop i.e. is provider of Kaliyan (wellness) and Gurbani (Gunn gaam) is Mangal-roop (happiness).

I am aware that some Mahapurakhs have promoted the jaap of Ik Oankaar as Beej Mantr. I don't question them. They did what they experienced. What I wrote here (first two pankitis) is based on Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh jee's translation of this pankiti in his book Gurmat Gauravta. Bhai Sahib believed in only one Mantra and that is Gurmantr and he believed that whole of Gurbani is Mantr roop i.e. even if you don't understand baani, it will still cast spiritual effect on you.

Kulbir Singh

Mehtab Singh, it is from Gurmukh Prakash. I can scan a paper where it is written in Gurmukhi if you want.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

There is no specific reason. There are many other such instances. I gave you example of Sant also being used for Guru.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

No. Mukatnama which was uttered by Guru Gobind Singh says not to marry in your Nanke's Gotra and Dadke's Gotra. Means moms and dads family name.

Howhever it is common amongst Bhappas to do so. Other (non Muslim) Punjabis don't do it.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Lets see their meanings:

Sat-Sangat: The True Congregation

Saadh-Sangat: The Congregation of the Gurmukhs

The congregation of Gurmukhs IS the True congregation. Thus both ARE same.

Just as Guru can be as Sant in Bani, why can't SatSangat be SaadhSangat?

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh