Shaheed

veer ji your comparieng to Sufi's

they are Taboo subject with orthodox/conservitive muslims maybe compare with islam it self

alot of guru ghars in toronto area can facilitate and do facilitate people with such difficulties

call up your cuzins, send them to talk to him if he doesnt agree make him agree simple

those terms came way afterr, early 1900's, around british rule time

you cant argue that tho, its fact

useless debate

lol MrSinghsahib how did i get this figure,

My nanny Ji is hios biggest fan haha, also his jatha claims that they have given amrit to close to 25000 ppl so far. your number of 5000 a week almost suggests that he did that less then 2 months.

n ive read 200, be reasonable thats prolly what the average is.

theres a story of how one time he had less then 200, like 190 and he started to cry just cuz he thought he failed or somthing

for those of you who have taken the oath, then only by commiting a kurehit can u be kicked out of tha panth or by hukam of the punj,

and to be a really good sikh one should follow those 52 hukams

being amritdhari isnt the product, its the beggining......anything prior to that is nothing, not sikh, not student, barely a person

its not 5000 a month, its 200 everyone lol, we cant go overboard!

Today it seems only amritdhari sikhs follow these rules, so would that mean that the only true sikhs these days are amritdharis?

the only true sikhs at any given moment of time were the ones who had given there head....

sooo pheena penji you would say that moneh are noot sinners in the sense they havnt given there head?

as for sachkhand, i dont think other faiths can reach it, take islam for example. there is a place in jerusalam called "dome of the rock" i believe, this is the spot The Prophet asceneded to heavens to speak to god, but he was only brought to the 2nd highest heaven to talk to god.....

soo he went down n preached about his 2nd highest heaven, cuz thats all he saw....

admin keep this one

didnt liek tha video, voice isnt good at all naw i give him thumbs down!

on another thread a moni asked is she was a sinner cuz she might have died her hair or used mehndi

one said if u beleieve in dasam patshah then i guess soo

but speaking as a mona my self, are we sikhs...no.....soo does sikhi code apply to us

we say other faiths cant reach sachkhand but other khands, n they are more lax or different then sikhi, soo if they arent sinners then maybe we arent right we just wont reach sachkhand?

if we want to be sikhs, but havnt given our heads do kurehits still affect us?

rehatnamas are made for sikhs to follow...not tha whole world

soo are we sinners? do we fall under sikhi system

Hukmai ander sabh ko, bar`hukam na koi

agreed all creation is under gods hukam but still, we say there are other khands for lax rehats of other faiths....i donno i just wanna know

an anonymous memeber in another thread asked if she was a sinner, when it comes to hair dying mehndi stufff

she asked if she falls under hukam of SGGS or Dasam Patshai

well i myself consider non amritdharis (like my self soo dont be harsh) or moneh (yes thats me) not to be sikh. so do we really fall under hukam, if we break sumthin do we really pay for it in sikhi terms???

Hukmai ander sabh ko, bar hukam na koi

yeah that applies for all creation, but we have different standards for other religions

we say XYZ religion is ok, but cant reach sachkhand, soo moneh like myself, would we really be penalized like sikhs, or no?

if not is she really a sinner, or are we really sinners?

sikh religion has beeen made for sikhs, no1 had there hair cut back then, no monehs in sikh families, if u cut ur hair, your face would be blackend, youd sit on a donkey backwards n ride thru the village (jaloose) kurehits, rehatnamas are made for u right

if we wanna learn and get on tha path fine we should follow the rehatnamas too but are we sinners till we give our head?

in toronto what nagar kirtan do we get it from theres 2 on tha same day

one more on friday, already have tha exam in my hand, with guru ji kirpa of course - gurus helping me out , thas what u call a real hommie!!!

Khalsa, i got word from my family and friends, ask around the toronto Taksalis for exact times,

but yea hes there for sure, well i knew for a few months now, but i thought he was coming in may, hes a lil early, this has been arranged for some time now........

but ya malton guru ghar starts thursday......im done exams friday soo hopefully ill see him sunday!!! when im back home in toronto

yes canadians are wicked we know it!

Bhai Ranjit Singh is gonna be a malton Gurughar, starting thursday, to sundays nagar kirtan i believe

congrats hope to follow u soon!

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listen to Dr. Pritam Singh tooo

very ummmmm,,,,,,,,,energy filled guy

i remember readin stuff like prilgridmeges aint tall that guru by guru sahib:

gauVI ]

gourree ||

Gauree:

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Jgrw eyku inbyrhu rwm ]

jhagaraa eaek nibaerahu raam ||

Resolve this one conflict for me, O Lord,

14 Gaurhee Saint Kabir

jau qum Apny jn sO kwmu ]1] rhwau ]

jo thum apanae jan sa kaam ||1|| rehaao ||

if you require any work from Your humble servant. ||1||Pause||

15 Gaurhee Saint Kabir

iehu mnu bfw ik jw sau mnu mwinAw ]

eihu man baddaa k jaa so man maaniaa ||

Is this mind greater, or the One to whom the mind is attuned?

15 Gaurhee Saint Kabir

rwmu bfw kY rwmih jwinAw ]1]

raam baddaa kai raamehi jaaniaa ||1||

Is the Lord greater, or one who knows the Lord? ||1||

15 Gaurhee Saint Kabir

bRhmw bfw ik jwsu aupwieAw ]

brehamaa baddaa k jaas oupaaeiaa ||

Is Brahma greater, or the One who created Him?

16 Gaurhee Saint Kabir

bydu bfw ik jhW qy AwieAw ]2]

baedh baddaa k jehaan thae aaeiaa ||2||

Are the Vedas greater, or the One from which they came? ||2||

16 Gaurhee Saint Kabir

kih kbIr hau BieAw audwsu ]

kehi kabeer ho bhaeiaa oudhaas ||

Says Kabeer, I have become depressed;

17 Gaurhee Saint Kabir

qIrQu bfw ik hir kw dwsu ]3]42]

theerathh baddaa k har kaa dhaas ||3||42||

is the sacred shrine of pilgrimage greater, or the slave of the Lord? ||3||42||

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nwnk gur smwin qIrQu nhI koeI swcy gur gopwlw ]3]

naanak gur samaan theerathh nehee koee saachae gur gopaalaa ||3||

O Nanak, there is no place of pilgrimage comparable to the Guru; the True Guru is the Lord of the world. ||3||

3 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev

hau bnu bno dyiK rhI iqRxu dyiK sbwieAw rwm ]

ho ban bano dhaekh rehee thrin dhaekh sabaaeiaa raam ||

I have searched the jungles and forests, and looked upon all the fields.

3 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev

iqRBvxo quJih kIAw sBu jgqu sbwieAw rwm ]

thribhavano thujhehi keeaa sabh jagath sabaaeiaa raam ||

You created the three worlds, the entire universe, everything.

4 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev

qyrw sBu kIAw qUM iQru QIAw quDu smwin ko nwhI ]

thaeraa sabh keeaa thoon thhir thheeaa thudhh samaan ko naahee ||

You created everything; You alone are permanent. Nothing is equal to You.

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mom, dad,

and the cousin,older bro, friend that u need in times of sorrow, happiness, and Rukas hehe

weeks prollly, it takes days by car, sikhs arent that big on yatra's except for Hemkunt sahib

Taksali veer, by the ppl around sant ji ive been told orange, youve been told blue

soo lets agree to disagree n leave it at that?

n once sum1 tied a dastar on me, it was blue so ill put that in as my faavourite color

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