kurtas

Chalo, menu kush ney patha, i just think that Simranjit Singh Mann is one of the few leaders left who hasnt been corrupted. I chose not to nit pick. He's not perfect, an individual shouldnt have to be perfect in order to get support of the people. He's human and humans make mistakes, but u make it seem as though he has a secret agenda against the panth and is a GIO agent which is absurd.

As for Che, i respect the man for what he did for the downtrodden, but i wouldnt go as far as admiring someone who didnt even believe in God (the most basic belief), and one who supports communism. If he was still around he'd simply be another Castro (as he did work with him).

Fateh.

Life is all about learning. That is why we need to learn about the underside of the likes of bittu, mann etc etc. You say they may not be perfect but the problem is more serious than this (especially with bittu) some of them have a very tainted past. Prime example being Jasbir Rode who to this day has not been able to explain his acquisition of assets etc without known sources of income and more importantly his proven links to the GOI. If Bitt came in the open and explained his links to police cats, to mokham the rss wala etc etc then fine but he refuses to do this.

As for Che he actually was nothing like Castro hence their falling out. As for his beliefs at no time did he renounce god etc so that view of your is unfounded.

Ok, bittu nu chadu, tell me how Simranjit Singh Mann is tainted? The man until this day goes out and protests against anti-sikh groups, gets attacked and has his pugh knocked off almost every month. He has sacrificed so much. He's been in and out of jail, tortured, had his passport revoked or has limitations put on it, but for what? For money? For the popular vote? No, his views arent popular in the modern day corrupt punjab and he definately isnt bringing in any money. You cant sit there and tell me that this man has some secret agenda and his an agent of the GOI.

And Che was a well known atheist, this cannot be denied, he was a Marxist for god sake!

Fateh.

Lets see SS Mann, makes bittu a top dog in his SAD, in the late 80s/90s held secret meetings with key GOI officials. That after knowing bittu invited police cats to his wedding. The same bittu also held parleys with GOI agents and this is well known.

Thats the other thing why does he lie down and let his pagri be knocked off every month, remember when he wanted to take his jathedar kirpan into parliament ? Where is that kirpan now ? Why dont he use it ?

Baba Malkit Singh has told about the situation where Mann and his stooges were ready to do beadbi of Mahraj in the Akal Takht. So how is he any different from badal ?

Why does he use the name of Shaheeds yet ignores their families ? Where were the shaheeds when he wanted to name a library after Jinnah ?

As for Che, go ask his first and second wives whether he was atheist.

We have simply the best Sikh who will fit in with everything that goes in the big brother house.

The name of this person is Niddhar Singh.

He can have a platform to lecture everyone on his views, beat, strangle and wrestle the other participants black and blue till they voluntary leave the house.

Chalo, menu kush ney patha, i just think that Simranjit Singh Mann is one of the few leaders left who hasnt been corrupted. I chose not to nit pick. He's not perfect, an individual shouldnt have to be perfect in order to get support of the people. He's human and humans make mistakes, but u make it seem as though he has a secret agenda against the panth and is a GIO agent which is absurd.

As for Che, i respect the man for what he did for the downtrodden, but i wouldnt go as far as admiring someone who didnt even believe in God (the most basic belief), and one who supports communism. If he was still around he'd simply be another Castro (as he did work with him).

Fateh.

Life is all about learning. That is why we need to learn about the underside of the likes of bittu, mann etc etc. You say they may not be perfect but the problem is more serious than this (especially with bittu) some of them have a very tainted past. Prime example being Jasbir Rode who to this day has not been able to explain his acquisition of assets etc without known sources of income and more importantly his proven links to the GOI. If Bitt came in the open and explained his links to police cats, to mokham the rss wala etc etc then fine but he refuses to do this.

As for Che he actually was nothing like Castro hence their falling out. As for his beliefs at no time did he renounce god etc so that view of your is unfounded.

Vaheguroo Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Ji Ki Fateh!

Respect to the SAD (Amritsar) and Mann for their stance AGAINST rss and shivsehna. THE ONLY PARTY IN INDIA WHO TRULY STANDS FOR SIKHI. No one else but these guys will actually fight for Sikhi in India, and will remind people of 1984, the only source of Media that will actually show people real video's and photo's on 1984 massacre and what these indian dogs where up to at the time. Although there r sum corrupt undercover rss people in the party which the SAD (A) need to get rid off.

Truly great party. They have amongst their top tier of leadership a certain Mr Bittu. This is the same Bittu who conveniently surrendered to police from the same location as Dr Sohan. The same Bittu who invited a police cat to his wedding. The same Bittu who on his release was feted by the likes of RSS monkey Mokham Su of the DDT (the same Mokham who also met GOI agents in the 1990s).

Then there is Mann, this man used true Gursikhs when they were alive for his own political needs. When they became shaheed he did not even have the time to visit their families. The same Mr Mann who thought it was better to open a library (using his MP funding) named after Jinnah of Pakistan than any of the mahan Gursikhs who have become shaheed since our dharam was founded.

(yawns)

Yawns.....why you have - Parnaam Shaheeda Nu - in your sig ?

You obviously have no respect for shaheeds. Your comments shows your liking of treacherous monkeys like Bittu and people like Mr Mann who ignore Shaheeds. I bet you also love Jasbir Rode who is one of the biggest enemies of the Khalsa panth, the man who continues to use the name of Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji to fund his lifestyle.

It is cus of gadar like you, mann, bittu, mokham etc etc that the qarbani of shaheed has been forgotten by Punjabis.

Listen you communist piece of garbage, if u cant discuss issues like a mature human being then then keep your mouth shut. Try to think about how much you've done for Sikhi before u go bashing others.

Communists like you are always <Edited> off because your crappy system failed. Why do u come on these forums anyway? Are u <Edited> off because no one supports what you have to say? Why are so u angry that some Sikhs support the ONLY, yes ill repeat myself, ONLY party fighting for Sikh rights? Oh i almost forgot, your a socialist.

Why do u get so upset when people talk about Akali Dali(A)? You never seem to bark this loud when people talk about Congress or Akali Dal Badal (the real gadaars), speaking of gadaars, im sure many would point fingers at a communist fool such as yourself for being a gadaar than i.

As ive said before (maybe youre blind or just stupid), Simranjit Singh Mann and the members of his party are politicians, politicians are never perfect, never even close to perfect. But there is a difference between those who are hell bent on destroying Sikhi (BJP, Congress, ect), Akali Dal(A) is the only party fighting for Sikh rights.

Now go to some paat and get that ego in check, but then again i understand how communists such as urself want everyone to follow them.

Hello дерьмо Дика

I suggest you take your own advice and read Gurbani. From your posts it is obvious you have little respect for what Guru Nanak Dev Ji Mahraj told us about "Fikai Boliaei Mann Fikai Hoe". No good telling other what to do when you are far from perfect yourself.

First things first I am not a communist, never have been, never will be. I do admire people like Ernesto Guevara. The reason for this is he fought for what he believed in and was ready to give his life for this (unlike your Ñын ублюдка mann and bittu the tittu). He could have lived a nice life in Argentina and had a good income as a doctor but he gave it up to fight against USA imperialism in Cuba, Bolivia and later fighting for the downtrodden in Bolivia.

Now lets think did Bittu fight for what he believed in (ready to give his life) LOL oh no he was to busy robbing banks (tell me how did he manage to walk out of Ludhiana with 5.70 crore tucked in his trousers ? ask him about the PP officers who were paid off) strutting his stuff pretending to be a hard knock.

Whilst people like Shaheed Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji Manochal remained true to the cause, дерьмо Дика bittu was $hitting his pants and negotiating his surrender to police. He remained happy to remain in contact with Sukhi the dirty police dog. Next time you see bittu ask him about his negotiations with GOI lafange like Jain and co.

The man is a joke he is very much tainted and if you cannot see this then it is not Parnaam Shaheeda Nu you should have in your sig but Parnaam GOI Agenta Nu as that is all you appear to show respect towards.

Check previous posts and you will see my views on badal junior and senior and the congress gang. It is gonad дерьмо Дика like you who keep still when badal topics come up but get an itch on the gonads when anyone shows the true colours of Mann and bittu the tittu.

Why do you get so upset when people point out the trechaoury and bad treatment of Shaheed by your mamma Mann and chacha bittu the tittu. Are you related to them or just a serial Mann & Bittu nuthugger ?

As for Sikh rights there are plenty of others fighting for Sikh rights. The DKI, Khalsa Panchayat etc etc all do a fine job.

Vaheguroo Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Ji Ki Fateh!

Respect to the SAD (Amritsar) and Mann for their stance AGAINST rss and shivsehna. THE ONLY PARTY IN INDIA WHO TRULY STANDS FOR SIKHI. No one else but these guys will actually fight for Sikhi in India, and will remind people of 1984, the only source of Media that will actually show people real video's and photo's on 1984 massacre and what these indian dogs where up to at the time. Although there r sum corrupt undercover rss people in the party which the SAD (A) need to get rid off.

Truly great party. They have amongst their top tier of leadership a certain Mr Bittu. This is the same Bittu who conveniently surrendered to police from the same location as Dr Sohan. The same Bittu who invited a police cat to his wedding. The same Bittu who on his release was feted by the likes of RSS monkey Mokham Su of the DDT (the same Mokham who also met GOI agents in the 1990s).

Then there is Mann, this man used true Gursikhs when they were alive for his own political needs. When they became shaheed he did not even have the time to visit their families. The same Mr Mann who thought it was better to open a library (using his MP funding) named after Jinnah of Pakistan than any of the mahan Gursikhs who have become shaheed since our dharam was founded.

(yawns)

Yawns.....why you have - Parnaam Shaheeda Nu - in your sig ?

You obviously have no respect for shaheeds. Your comments shows your liking of treacherous monkeys like Bittu and people like Mr Mann who ignore Shaheeds. I bet you also love Jasbir Rode who is one of the biggest enemies of the Khalsa panth, the man who continues to use the name of Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji to fund his lifestyle.

It is cus of gadar like you, mann, bittu, mokham etc etc that the qarbani of shaheed has been forgotten by Punjabis.

Im very sorry that people like Kurtas and some others in this forum (very few) who have never done anything for charhdikala of Sikhs and Punjab.Such people are sitting thousands of miles from Punjab and have never faced the heat of going ons here .I doubt whether such people will ever come to Punjab except as tourists.I feel furious when such people call Bhai Bittu(who has spent 11 years of his life in jail and has dedicated around 20 years of his whole life for the Sikh struggle) and Sardar Mann (who gave up his post as DIG just for the sake of Sikhs and Punjab,was brutally tortured ,his beard pulled,kept in solitary confinement for many years,named as main accused in indra gandhi murder case,had an order of shoot to kill issued against him by the indian govt and most at kathunangal bhai bittu and sardar mann accepted lathi blows of badal daliyas not for his own gains) as "monkeys".

Such monkeys(like kurtas) just refuse to accept the facts and continue to malign Bhai Bittu and Sardar Mann although Ive been trying repeatedly trying to tell him the facts about Bhai Bittu and Sardar Mann.

One line which kurtas usually takes while maligning bhai bittu and sardar mann is that why they are not in jail .Let me inform kurtas that bhai jagtar singh hawara's accomplises have been found not guilty and have been granted bail.Similarly the police has not been able to frame any cases against Bhai Kulbir Singh Barapind .Do you mean to say all of them are government agents ?

I even gave him the following reference of Bhai Bittu's lawyer Sardar Navkiran Singh in which he dispells doubts about Bhai Bittu and informs us that it was the supreme court and not indian govt conducted the cases against bhai bittu and acquitted him in most of them:

http://www.sikhsangat.org/publish/article_846.shtml

But this monkey(kurtas) refused to accept even a lawyers comments as he has been overcome by anti Bittu and Mann mania.

Anyone I dont want to waste my energy on a single foolish person(kurtas).The following is an article which appeared "today" on the Shiromani Akali Dal(Amritsar) site which sums up everything :

http://www.akalidalamritsar.com/punjab/Dai..._19_Dec_06.html

Kurtas if you cant read Punjabi then get it read from some Gursikh.

Harjot Singh Brar

(Punjab)

Support Shiromani Akali Dal(Amritsar) and get rid of Badal and Congress and save Punjab

Hello человек обезьÑны

You ever heard of keeping your ears to the ground ? Do it and you will hear lots about bittu the titu and Mann the coward.

Now you say you have been telling me facts. Please give me facts on following :

1.How did bittu the tittu manage to surrender form the same place as Dr Sohan ? very convenient to surrender from the exact same spot as the lafanga badmash Dr Sohan Su. Sorry I should say Dr Sohan Singh Ji (I guess he is also one of your favourites).

2.Now tell me why did such a mahan badmash like bittu invite Sukhi the police cat to his wedding ? Dont give me the b/s that Sukhi the dog was not there. He was there and it is evident in bittus wedding film. First he denies knowing Sukhi the dog shi£ then he accepts he knows him. Since when has Sikhi taught us to tell lies ?

3. Why does bittu the tittu still maintain links with Mokham Su of DDT (the same Mokham who met the RSS etc and made disgusting comments about Veer Davinderpal Singh Bhullar) ?

4. Why did Mann ignore the family of Shaheed Major Baldev Singh Ji Ghuman. The son of the mentioned true panthic Shaheed has been on these forums and confirmed how his father was used by dirty mann.

5. Why did Mann ignore the sacrifice of Sikh shaheeds when he wanted to build a library with his MP stipend in the name of Jinnah of Pakistan ?

6. Why did Mann meet GOI emissionaries in the late 1980s/1990s ? If he denies it ask him to undergo lie detection tests.

Please do not continue to dodge these questions. ANSWER THEM.

I dont give two hoots what bittu the titus lawyer says. I could get statements from lawyers who represent dirty scum like Tytler, Sajjan Kumar etc. Does that mean they are not dirty low life ba£tards ? We have plenty of nuthuggers like you who cling to these disgraced badmash as if they have made some sort of sacrifice for us all.

There are true panthic sewadaar out there. But unlike these publicity seeking dirty dogs masquarading as Sikhs they do not seek publicity. Hawara is a prime example, there are others still languishing in Jodhpur jail to this day. Some have been there for more than 20 years, they have not been granted mock bail etc like bittu the tittu. In fact Bittu the tiitu and Mann do not even bother with these true Khalsa. There is Davinderpal Singh Bhullar who still languishes in squalid conditions despite the case against him being seriously flawed.

получите человека обезьÑны жизни

Its fake and nothing to do with Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

Nang nuthuggers can say what they want, fact is that work by Jaya Krishna done way after 1708.

If you guys want to pretend something with work by Krishna is work of Guru Ji then you are all delluded and need help.

lol .... not only nangs beleave in it but also nihangs , taksalis , udasis and nirmalas .... have you ever seen sarbloh granth in your life ???? :lol:

LOL.

Have you ever seen the work of Guru Gobind Singh Ji Mahraj ? I think not.

Have you read the Sarbloh ? Please give a detailed breakdown of the writing style used and its linkage to Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

If you dont know then continue nuthugging the nangs.

no it is not the whole of siri sarbloh granth sahib just one shabad from it

Why would work by Krishna be in something attributed to Guru Gobind Singh Ji Mahraj ?

Tomorrow these nuthugging nangs will tell you that the comic written by piara bhaniarwala badmash is some sort of Granth. You going to believe that as well ?

Vaheguroo Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Ji Ki Fateh!

Respect to the SAD (Amritsar) and Mann for their stance AGAINST rss and shivsehna. THE ONLY PARTY IN INDIA WHO TRULY STANDS FOR SIKHI. No one else but these guys will actually fight for Sikhi in India, and will remind people of 1984, the only source of Media that will actually show people real video's and photo's on 1984 massacre and what these indian dogs where up to at the time. Although there r sum corrupt undercover rss people in the party which the SAD (A) need to get rid off.

Truly great party. They have amongst their top tier of leadership a certain Mr Bittu. This is the same Bittu who conveniently surrendered to police from the same location as Dr Sohan. The same Bittu who invited a police cat to his wedding. The same Bittu who on his release was feted by the likes of RSS monkey Mokham Su of the DDT (the same Mokham who also met GOI agents in the 1990s).

Then there is Mann, this man used true Gursikhs when they were alive for his own political needs. When they became shaheed he did not even have the time to visit their families. The same Mr Mann who thought it was better to open a library (using his MP funding) named after Jinnah of Pakistan than any of the mahan Gursikhs who have become shaheed since our dharam was founded.

(yawns)

Yawns.....why you have - Parnaam Shaheeda Nu - in your sig ?

You obviously have no respect for shaheeds. Your comments shows your liking of treacherous monkeys like Bittu and people like Mr Mann who ignore Shaheeds. I bet you also love Jasbir Rode who is one of the biggest enemies of the Khalsa panth, the man who continues to use the name of Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji to fund his lifestyle.

It is cus of gadar like you, mann, bittu, mokham etc etc that the qarbani of shaheed has been forgotten by Punjabis.

Its fake and nothing to do with Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

Nang nuthuggers can say what they want, fact is that work by Jaya Krishna done way after 1708.

If you guys want to pretend something with work by Krishna is work of Guru Ji then you are all delluded and need help.

where does he do his hinduvta classes any1 knw

You know where to find him if you had the nerve to do so, and you know what would happen to you also. I?d start doing your press ups taking your vitamins and saying your prayers!! Whatcha gonna do when Niddar Singh goes wild on you??lol lol lol lol

:lol: P**sys like him dnt fight when it comes down to the real thing u seriously think singhs gna go dwn and try gatka on him go and stomp him 1 wid a pole rush him ,no need 4 anyfing else ,hes and his followers are whats is knwn as cats

You see here we have the problem, all you guys cant put your money where your mouth is. You guys go online cry about this cry about that, know everything about anything and yet you all hate this Niddar Singh because he?s rss, congress , bjp, kgb and fbi all rolled in to one!

The truth is you guys cant do jack about him you cant challenge him academically nor physically so why don?t you chaps give it up understand all Sikhs don?t follow the same mindset and let people make up there own minds what they want to believe.

Academically he is not too hard to outfox. Still waiting for him to accept the debate challange from the (Mohali) Singh.

On the martial arts side he is good but not this legendary fighter you guys want to paint him as. He is good compared to say the shin kin wale etc but in terms of Europe and the World he would get seven bells knocked out of him if he ever entered a freestyle championship. If I had a choice of learning from Niddar or Shin Kin wale I would go to Niddar, his fighting methods are a lot more streetwise and usable.

Vaheguroo Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Ji Ki Fateh!

Respect to the SAD (Amritsar) and Mann for their stance AGAINST rss and shivsehna. THE ONLY PARTY IN INDIA WHO TRULY STANDS FOR SIKHI. No one else but these guys will actually fight for Sikhi in India, and will remind people of 1984, the only source of Media that will actually show people real video's and photo's on 1984 massacre and what these indian dogs where up to at the time. Although there r sum corrupt undercover rss people in the party which the SAD (A) need to get rid off.

Truly great party. They have amongst their top tier of leadership a certain Mr Bittu. This is the same Bittu who conveniently surrendered to police from the same location as Dr Sohan. The same Bittu who invited a police cat to his wedding. The same Bittu who on his release was feted by the likes of RSS monkey Mokham Su of the DDT (the same Mokham who also met GOI agents in the 1990s).

Then there is Mann, this man used true Gursikhs when they were alive for his own political needs. When they became shaheed he did not even have the time to visit their families. The same Mr Mann who thought it was better to open a library (using his MP funding) named after Jinnah of Pakistan than any of the mahan Gursikhs who have become shaheed since our dharam was founded.

Shiv Sena burnt Sardar Mann's effigy in connivance with anti Sikh badal dal .

Meanwhile there are still some people in this forum who have been carried away by govt propoganda and have even gone to extent of calling Sardar Mann and Bhai Bittu as "RSS agents" which is totally false .

On the contrary badal is an open RSS agent

Here is truth revealed by Bhai Bittu's advocate says about Bhai Bittu and cases against him :

http://www.sikhsangat.org/publish/article_846.shtml

http://www.navkiransingh.com/activities.htm

What has been done by shiv sena today should be condemned by all and can never be tolerated.Shiv sena got encouraged after badal dal goonda's got away scot free after after attacking Sardar Mann and his supporters at Taran Taaran.

Actually all Sikhs and right thinking people should come out openly and protest against this goondagardi of shiv sena and badal so that no other anti sikh group has the guts to burn effigy of any sikh leader in future.

The example of dismembering of Dr Ambedkar's statue and the violent protest of dalits against this is in front of us.

Recently when some goonda's caught hold of an Amritdhari Sikh and made him forceably drink alcohol and then cut his hair in kapurthala, it was only some panthic jathebandis including Shiromani Akali Dal(Amritsar) who started the protest the next morning .

Why were other Sikh's in Punjab quiet ?

Why are Sikh's quite now also after today's Taran Taraan incident by Shiv Sena ?

Have some Sikhs of Punjab turned into hermaphrodites who dont even care even if a dog is ruling over them or taking them for a ride for political gains only.

If such anti sikh activities by shiv sena,Rss,badal daliyas are not stopped right now it will be very dangerous for future of Punjab.

Shiv Sena Murdabad

RSS Murdabad

Prakash Badal,Sukhbir badal(tittu)Murdabad

Harjot Singh Brar

Mann Dal, Punjab Shiv Sena clash in Tarn Taran sparks communal tension

DHARAMBIR MALHAR

Sunday, 03 December 2006

TARN TARAN: Communal tension prevailed in Punjab's border town of Tarn Taran folowing the members of Amritsar Akali Dal on Sunday clashed with Shiv Sena (Bal Thakrey) activists who burnt an effigy of Simranjit Singh Mann here to protest against an artcile written in a Punjabi monthly magazine criticising the role of Shiv Sena. Mann is president of Amritsar Akali Dal.

The clash has left atleast six persons injured including Ashwani Kumar Kukko and Tejinderpal Tinda, president and General Secretary of Taran Taran district unit of Shiv Sena and Varinder Kumar Bali. The Mann Dal supporters injured in the incident couldn't be identified.

All the business eastablishments in the town were closed and police has been deployed to prevent any untoward incident.

Tarn Taran police has arrested five members of Mann group who allegedly attacked the Shiv Sena members with swords, said Parveen Kumar Sinha SSP Taran Taran. They have been identified as Balwant Singh, Bikram Singh, Jagdev Singh, Jagtar Singh and Balwinder Singh. He said that FIR has been registered against Mann Dal supporters on the complaint of Shiv Sena.

Shiv Sena had announced to burn the effigy of Mann to protest against remarks that the editor or the newspaper Baljit Singh Khalsa had made against Shiv Sena. Khlasa is said to be supporter of Mann. He has criticised Shiv Sena for an earlier incident of clash between Msupporters of Mann and Parkash Singh Badal president of Shiromani Akali Dal(SAD) at Kathunanagal during birth anniversary of Bab Budha ji at Kathu Nnagal. It is alleged that Shiv Sena had supported Badal supporters in Kathunanagal clash.

Sources said that Mann Dal had warned Shiv Sena against burning of effigy of Mann. Party General Secretary Bhai Ram Singh and Avtar Singh Deol had submitted a memorendum to Deputy Commissioner Jaspal Singh and SSP Parveen Kumar Sinha seeking to prevent Shiv Sena from burning Mann's effigy.

While Mann supporters were holding dharna in Tehsil Chown, the Shiv Sena activists burnt the effigy in Char Khamba chowk. Mann supporters on knowing the act, attacked the Shiv Sena members and both sides clashed in the presence of Police force deployed there.

http://www.punjabnewsline.com/content/view/2051/38/

I fail to understand why people are getting so upset about Manns effigy being burnt. People in Punjab make less noise when important issues are at stake such as the beadbi of Guru Ji.

Ha ha ha Bhai Bittu, the man is a coward who surrendered to the police. Whilst Panthic Singh like Shaheed Baba Manochal were getting killed whislt fighting the enemies of the panth Bittu was hiding in a convenient place so he could surrender to panthic enemies (the same place from where Dr Sohan also surrendered). He invited a police cat to his wedding knowing all too well that this police cat had been shown as killed in an encounter and then denied that the cat had attended his wedding. Bittu is allied to Dhum, Mokham and co and we all know about Mokhams anti panthic activities such as meeting the RSS stooge Rulda.

What you guys expect from the owners of Channel Punjab. The whole thing is a sham, I wonder where the Dhariwals got the money for this channel from ?

It is known that the Derewal enjoy the company of indian politicians and they openly accepted Pravasi Bharti Divas from the GOI a few years back.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

what is Pravasi Bharti Divas ???

Bhul Chuck Maaf

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Its an annual event organised by the GOI to honour NRI etc. They hand out these farcical awards to those attending. Other recipiants include a very well known solicitor (specialising in immigration) who happens to have an office next to Smethwick Gurdwara.

What you guys expect from the owners of Channel Punjab. The whole thing is a sham, I wonder where the Dhariwals got the money for this channel from ?

It is known that the Derewal enjoy the company of indian politicians and they openly accepted Pravasi Bharti Divas from the GOI a few years back.

I enjoy reading a lot of your posts kurtas, but a lot of what u write is obsurd.

Why does Simranjit Singh Mann have to be perfect? Why does he have to do everything YOU think is right in order to be respected? Of course he could've handled certain situations better, maybe he couldnt, we dont know, cuz we werent there. What we do know is his intentions and his motives, and they are obviously at the end of the day, for the well being of the panth. People like Badal and other gadaars could care less about the panth and some are hell bent on destroying it, yet you'd spend all your time and energy getting angry at people who are trying their hardest to get things done.

Were u there when he was roughed up? No, so u wouldnt know, and dont tell me you would have tried to take some of the guys down with u, its easy to talk all tough but when it comes down to doing it, most people freeze. And in case u forgot Simranjit Singh Mann is probably 40 years older than u. As for the members of his party that ran from Badals thugs out of fear, blame them, not Simranjit Singh Mann.

Im pretty sure Simranjit Singh Mann would in most situation, sit down and address the sangat to clarify any misunderstandings because he is a humble gursikh, people such as Badal and other gadaars would never show up because they're liars, feel like they dont need to address anyone, or just too damn afraid.

I salute Simranjit Singh Mann for his seva, i dont have to agree with him on everything to support or respect him, he's been through a lot more than any of us can imagine, i hope we can all see that.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

I think posts from people like you are absurd. They know little about what is going on at ground level but think the sun shines out of Mr Manns backside. He is not the Panthic savious you guys paint him out to be. Remember his big thing about taking a large Siri Sahib into parliament, soon withered away after the initial publicity and he was soon going in withou it.

Tell us what seva he has done ? Like the Mo Ali Jinnah library in Sangrur he wanted to set up with his parliamentary development fund. Why Jinnah ? Had he run out of Panthic Shaheeds he could have named a library after ? Then there are cases of him using Panthic gems like Shaheed Major Baldev Singh Ji Ghuman when he was alive and ignoring his family when he became shaheed.

It is not about him having to do what I think is right but him following Sikh teachings and traditions. We are not taught to be gandhi type pacifists who sit and take a beating. Can you imagine if any of the Khalsa Shaheeds had taken a Mann approach ? Can you imagine Shaheed Baba GS Manochal Ji sitting on the floor taking a beating from Panthic enemies ? NO.

He never "lay down like a pacifist gandhi lover" he was attacked and he got beats he never said "go ahead beat me" his supporters an off and only the ones who was tru to their word stayed with him (very few) who then got surrounded , heavely outnumbered and beaten by the badaliay and chutala's bhaiay.

Ha ha ha. Was he not lying on the ground ? Did he throw a punch back. I do not give a hoot if there was 1million of them. He made no effort to even defend himself. His son covered him as he was getting beaten like a gandhi pacifist, if he had smacked one or two on the nose and gone down fighting things would be different but his cowardice shone through.

Kurtas

You obviously have no clue about what you are talking about. What you are saying that Mann supporters should do in India is the same as most Indian desh-bigots say about any Sikh in the west who wants to comment on what the Indian govt is doing to Sikhs. So going by your own advice when can we hope to see you outside the Akal Takht calling Vedanti a liar, dishonest etc. Or are you as I suspect a hypocrite. Only good at giving such advice and never following it yourself.

You obviously have no regard for what our Guru Ji taught us about revenge. You may think it is ok for badal goonde to knock manns dastaar off and vice versa (and same with Harianbela Wale) but I think it is incompatible with Sikhi, childish and petty. Maybe you like childish petty games but I think they have no place in the Sikh Panth.

Where were the Mann supporters when he was attaked recently ? All of them ran off and Mann lay down like a pacifist gandhi lover and took shithar from the badal goonde. These overseas Mann goonde are no better than the Badal goonde. Mann is also not the angel you guys paint out to be. We all know how he has used mahan Gursikhs like Shaheed Major Baldev Singh Ji Ghuman, conveniently forgetting his family after he became Saheed. So well done to those Mann supporters who undertook this attack, well done for someone who has ignored the families of Shaheed.

As for Vedanti I have now been several times to the Akal Takht secetariat and even to his home. Each time he has been away, otherwise I would tell him exactly what I think of him.

"Baba Nihal Singh Harianwalan was beaten and forced to run in Yuba city Nagar Kirtan by the Akali dal Mann group despite of the heavy security. Baba was not even allowed to deliver the speech. Last month baba Nihal used force aganist Mr. mann in Darbar Sahib complex and he and his supporters even draged swords aganist Mr. mann on the day. In Yuba City Mr. Mann's supporters asked the baba while he was running to drag his sword now. In this Nagar Kirtan more than 60000 Sikhs took part."

Two wrongs do not make a right.

Shame on the Mr Mann supporters. They can try as they might but with such actions they are showing how little regard they have for the teachings of of Guru Ji. If petty revenge for Mr Mann is all they can do then they are besharam goonde.

If these Mr Mann supporters have the guts lets see them challenge the Harianbelawale in Punjab. All they are good for is making noise abroad. Where were these "soorme" when Mr MAnn was getting seven bells knocked out of him recently ?

after the attack in '84 Baba Mann Singh Started his 9 years of Bhagti.......what better way to conteract wat happened then by doing bhagti and then after 9yrs of no daylight in '93 started preaching the teachings of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

FATEH!!!

9 years of no daylight :D . Did you literally mean that ??

Of cause there was no daylight as he was in a porra. That has got to be the biggest porkie I have heard in along time (sorry for the porkie jibe as Bheva may have told you not to eat meat in contradiction of a REAL AKAL TAKHT HUKUMNAMA as opposed to a rather sham press release). Reminds me of the c£ap that the North Koreans claim about Kim Jong Il as being a rare great man of Baekdu type who was born at Mt.Baekdu, a sacred mountain for Koreans.

So what stopped him continuing the morcha in 1993 ? Or did he think the objectives desired by the Khalsa Panth vanish in 1993.

You nuthuggers can try as you want, publish as many adverts missusing the Akal Takht for your sinister purposes but we can see through your propaganda.

For about the millionth time of asking :

W H E N

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B H E V A

G O I N G

T O

C A N A D A ?????

I have been to this place. 99% of the people come here for picnic. The remaining 1% come to worship. Its beautiful, and you are not allowed to talk inside the temple.

So true. I went about 2 years ago. Most the people visiting were justthere to look at the building (like myself). There was not much inside its just got lots of church type benches where you sit down in silence. Of casue being a kurta I had to head towards the small speakers stand and walk o the rug, the ushers told me off for this and that wsa the end of my visit to the lotus temple.

I doubt the posts on the site have anything to do with followers of Bahaism. It is rather like the odd <banned word filter activated> we get on this site every now and then who posts statements which malign other faiths.

i've always been quite subtle when it comes to posts such as this - but now im gonna be totally honest about wat i think

if any those people on this site that do nindya of mahaan gursikhs had any gian then they wouldnt doit - it shows they have no kamai,

have any of the nindak idiots done years of naam simran without seeing daylight??

the answer is no

if any of the <banned word filter activated> NINDAKS had any gian theyd be able to distinguish between truth and fake

singh 1983 is 100% correct. People who do nindya of mahaan Gursikhs have no kamai. By Mahann Gursikhs we refer to Gursikhs like Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji, Shaheed Bhai Mani Singh Ji, Shaheed Bhai Taru Singh Ji, Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji,, Shaheed Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji Manochal, Shaheed Bhai Shabaz Singh Ji, Shaheed Baba Gurbax Singh Ji (Banda Bahadhur), Shaheed Bhai Bota Singh Ji, Shaheed Bhai Garja Singh Ji, Shaheed Bhai Mehtab Singh Ji, Shaheed Bhai Sukha Singh Ji etc etc.

However to lump an alleged woman abuser who openly flouts Akal Takht Hukumnama in with real Panthic gems (mahaan Gursikhs) shows how low standards have fallen and how low some people hold the sacrifices of TRUE mahaan Gursikhs. Where was Bheva when our brothers were being killed in Punjab, what aspects of the Saint Soldier did he exhibit during these dark years ?

Kurtas,

Like i said earlier, i aint going to waste my time:

For once why cant we all come together and stand side by side......think about what we as Sikhs are doing to each other........Think about the HAND behind all these issues........Its an obvious agenda to wipe out Sikhi Da Parchaar!!!!!

United we Stand------Divided we fall!

You are right lets unite. But to unite we need to all respect the Hukumnama of the Akal Takht which you obviously do not want to do. We can unite behind the banner of Miri Piri but not behind some sadh. Choice is yours. You are most welcome to drop the divisive stance on various things which are in direct contradiction to HUKUMNAMA issued by the Akal Takht and we can move forward BUT if you want to remain loyal to your sadh (as opposed to the TRUTH from the Akal Takht) then there is no way we can unite.

>>After the false rape allegations failed to stick by the ridiculous people making them......another issue is at its upmost trying to once again bring down Baba Ji......

Grow up bheva nuthugger and stop pretending that bheva has some how cruised through a REAL court case that has cleared him of the charges.

As for the slander, thats a bit rich coming from you, was it not just last week when you was trying to paint one of the ALLEGED victims as a common <admin-profanity filter activated> ?

>>Please, do more nindhia, what you sow, so shall you reap.

So what did bheva sow to deserve all these allegations that have been levelled against him ?

& When is he going to Canada ?

the way i see it is that, people who do nindiya are normally those who dont have much gian and have no kamai .................they are wannabe sikhs and like to turn up at all the programs thinkin they represent somthing, only the true khalsa is the gurus army and you can see that peacefulness and the boldness in the persons eyes .....................................

the way I see it the people who play the nindya card are those who want to worship human gurus and then constantly claim they actually follow Guru Granth Sahib Ji and not their human demi-god.

Complete <banned word filter activated>.

All the cases highlighted on the show were of Muslims (even the victim "Manjit" was a muslim) yet the complete <banned word filter activated> claims that it is a problem within the Muslim and Sikh communities. I guess if he had been true and said it is a Muslim problem he would not have been very welcome at Friday prayers at his local mosque.

Ravi Das was never appointed Guru from any Sikh. Maybe thats why it burnt down? We dont say Guru Kabeer Ji so why do they say Guru Ravidas Ji???????

Its called reinventing history to create a seperatist agenda just like all the tha-khans do with these Gurdwara named after "Maharaja" Jassa Singh Ramgharia (Sardar Jassa Singh Ramgharia never claimed and never will be a Maharaja despite the tha-khans pretending he was one, there were far larger misal Jathedar than the Ramgharia misal).

tru BC is turning into uk...since the 3rd or 4th sikh generation started

its getting corupt there.

just like u said Singh With Dunalli, pakis kno there limits. insted of going against sikh, they unit with sikhs over here. everyones so safe with one another, all hindus and pakis r so into the punjabi culture and never dare to talk against sikhs here.

Canada is far worse. Remember those special Panj Piare who were invited from Punjab for the 99 Vasaikhi celebrations and how most of them were illegal immigrants dressed as Panj Piare. How shameful is that ?

Then there is all the inbreeding in Canada, all those people abusing the immigration laws by marrying their sisters, aunts, mothers etc etc so they can get all the pind over. So Canadians really have nothing to boast about, in fact when I think about pane in Canada I always think they look like chavs from Bicester. The most backward people with poor taste you could ever encounter.

Sadly Nagar Kirtans have become just a socialising event (and an event where a few committee wale can get some funding form local council).

Just look what happed on dudley road in wolverhampton last year, the after party event was what most the youngsters turned up for. Links to the videos were posted and it was sad to see some idiots wearing kurta with Khanda on them drinking, dancing and there were even a few fights.

Is it not time these Nagar Kirtan were curtailed. They are not doing the Panth any good. If anything they attract anti social elements whos idea of what they can do during a Nagar Kirtan is just yob behaviour.