Singh97

I don't see anything against Sikhs.. it's actually a bit amusing

Most of us want it, but the effort to make it seems like it's fading. I know a lot of people are working hard, but there aren't enough people putting in the effort.

I'm not saying it's impossible... all I'm saying is that a lot more effort is needed if we want it within 20 years.

I make and drink shardaai usually once a week and it lasts for a few days. Happy to answer any questions!

Could you tell me what you put in it and how you personally make it. Thanks.

It's sweet but one can still taste the pepper.

Do you know how to make it the way they do in India?

I drank it in India.

What does it taste like?

WJKK WJKF

My friend told me about Shardaayi and I thought I would try it. Has anyone on here seen any strength improvements. What's the best way to make it? How much should I drink in a day? http://www.sikhnet.com/news/shardaayi-nectar-warriors-0

WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF

The petition for Prabhdeep needs 8000 signatures, please sign it to pressure the government to send in more searchers. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/242/796/453/increase-resources-in-the-search-for-prabhdeep-srawn/

And if this topic could get pinned it would be great.

Thank you to everyone who's helping out right now

Bhul Chuk Maaf

WJKK WJKF

Thanks to Waheguru's kirpa he's gotten a very good lawyer... the only problem is the money, but they should be able to come up with a way to get the money.

As for the police officer who's related to the boyfriend (he didn't know the allegations were lies), he has also said that the girls are very likely to be put in jail for lying like this.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Canada has, does it not, have Laws which state that anyone that makes a domestic violence allegation (any violence within the home) cannot then retract those allegations without suffering serious criminal charges from the authorities themselves ? If, as I suspect, that is the case, the girl is now caught between a rock and a hard place. She can't withdraw her complaint.

On the other issue, Canada is a very civilised country. It's not Punjab. If the Police Officer has misused his position there will be serious consequences for him. I don't know if its the Peel Police, Vancouver or Surrey Police but whichever it is, your relation needs to get down to police hq and file a formal complaint. Regardless of whether or not anything comes of it at least he'll be getting the facts relating to the case out there.

But anyhow, Canadian Law operates on basic English common law principles. The man can't be convicted on hearesay. Unless they have written, audio or video proof of him making a death threat the Court cannot find him guilty.

Unfortunately, what sometimes happens in these situations is that Punjabi men in Canada who are relatively recent immigrants receive either bad legal advice or feel pressured to plead guilty when confronted with the choice of a misdemeanor slap on the wrist or the possibility of a serious stretch of jail time. This situation you portray is all too common in Canada. I know because some of my own uncles and aunties out there have been thrown in jail on the say of their own daughters. I know the UK Sikhs love to complain alot but they don't know how good they've got it compared to the situation out where you are.

Thank you for the amazing answer. I hope this turns out the way it should.

I think if all other charges have prove to be wrong then, judge or jury knows that she is lying. They would need solid evidence but i am not a lawyer or anything. When she turns 18, he should kick her out the same day..

You're right about that.

Its hard to answer your questions on the point of law without knowing what country you're in Simranpreet Singh. Here in England, the dad wouldn't have to wait another year to throw her out of the house. The legal age for everything except vote....and I mean everything including drinking in pubs and nightclubs etc is 16. He could have thrown her out last year and saved himself the aggravation. But like I said it's difficult to answer the legal points without knowing which jurisdiction you're talking about. You see, the thing is here in Europe nobody really gets to spend even an hour behind bars in a police station unless its a really really henious crime. In contrast, in North America, the authorities love locking people up even for traffic offences. Indeed, America locks up more of it's population than any other country in the hstory of the world. But yeah...he should throw her out and kick the mum out too while he's at it.

Its hard to answer your questions on the point of law without knowing what country you're in Simranpreet Singh. Here in England, the dad wouldn't have to wait another year to throw her out of the house. The legal age for everything except vote....and I mean everything including drinking in pubs and nightclubs etc is 16. He could have thrown her out last year and saved himself the aggravation. But like I said it's difficult to answer the legal points without knowing which jurisdiction you're talking about. You see, the thing is here in Europe nobody really gets to spend even an hour behind bars in a police station unless its a really really henious crime. In contrast, in North America, the authorities love locking people up even for traffic offences. Indeed, America locks up more of it's population than any other country in the hstory of the world. But yeah...he should throw her out and kick the mum out too while he's at it.

This's in Canada. I don't know what the police are going to do about the fake death threats and the slap... Also the mom had no say in this, the daughter did this with her boyfriend's cousin who's a police officer, her masee and her cousin who's a lawyer. The moms trying to convince her daughter to lift the charges but she won't listen.

Update: All of the sex charges have been proved false, the only thing left is that the daughter said he was threatening her and her friends with death threats.

Will the law require her to prove it, or will the fact that her friends are lying with her be enough?

And in your opinion, after this's over, should he make her leave his house and live somewhere else? In a few months when the girl's 18, he technically doesn't have to let her live in his house.

Don't know how true this story is.......Sounds a bit iffy to me BUT......there's one thing that sticks out. He became her dad when she was 3 and she's now 17. Throughout her entire life so far he has had responsibility of bringing her up.....teaching her values etc. Throughout her entire life thus far it is this man that the youngster looked to for moral guidance in life. That was his responsibility.

Lets be honest now brothers and sisters.......he's done a pretty atrocious job of it. You can't help but question the strength of his own moral fibre on the back of that. Of course that doesn't make him a sex offender etc, but to bring up a child with such criminal low morals he's obviously done more things wrong than right so far.

The man worked three jobs and was away from home most of the time, for example he had one main job and two part time jobs (he'd work his main job in the day, then sleep a few hours and leave for the next) .. they were poor so he had to constantly work. The daughter spent a lot of time with her masee's (moms sisters) who did not like the step dad. So that's the reason the daughter was like this, her aunt's brainwashed her.

Hmm... If she was raped, then there needs to be evidence.. They should have conducted medical examination on her to find out the truth. This man needs to get a good lawyer to defend him..

the medal exam showed it was a lie.. but the "being touched" part is still going on

I recently heard about a horrible law case and this's how it went down...

A man married a woman 14 years ago while the woman's daughter was 3. In 2013 the daughter is now 17 and has a boyfriend, the step dad found out about this and slapped the daughter (just like what would happen with most indian parents). The daughter got mad and went to her boyfriend where they came up with a plan to charge the step dad for rape even though he didn't do anything like that. The step dad gets arrested for this and spends 3 months in prison while the step daughter and her mom take all the money from their joint bank account. The Gurdwara raises money for the man and he's released on bail. But the step daughter doesn't want this so she comes up with all these false allegations like being touched and being raped, while getting all of her friends to be "witnesses" to a fake crime. The man has no money because it all got taken while he was in jail so he can't afford a lawyer.

What I find disgusting is that the step dad treated the daughter like his own and made sure she didn't go through any problems, he even bought her a brand new car and was willing to pay for her college even though she wasn't his real daughter.

What would he have to do? He could face up to 5-10 years in jail over a crime he didn't commit.

So you make a bunga with your kesh I'm assuming by attaching it, right?

Here's a good tutoria as well if you're doing it with a bunga. If that doesn't work you can try doing your jhoora and then putting the lards over it a few times to round it out and make it solid.

Yeah that's how I do it. The only problem I have is that my hairs long so tying something small is hard, but I think eventually after practicing I'll be able to do it easier. Thanks for the help

Lol, funniest thread this week. Not your question nor is it his style of dastar (i tie similar to that when I don't tie nok dastar or dumalla), but I expected to see a fancy nok dastar since you already 'know how to tie a dumalla' and here we have a pic of Young Fateh instead hahahahahahhahah

How do you tie your bunga or base for your dumalla?

If not then simply tie a small one like he does after the bunga and do that twice. After that it just takes practice and slowly you will develop your own unique style.

lol yeah i agree it is funny, my friend taught me how to tie a dhamalla but never taught me anything else. The reason he went straight to a dhamalla is because I'm 15 and my hair is really thick and long so tying a small pagh is hard. I'll watch the video and practice and see how it goes. Thanks.

I wear a dhamalla most of the time, but the problem is that it takes a while to tie. I need a smaller pagh that I can wear on casual days where I'm just going to the store or I'm going for a walk in the park. This's what I want to learn -->> http://instagram.com/p/U3G9tcON7L/

If someone could link me a tutorial or just tell me how to start it, that would be great.

WJKK WJKF

I have the same taste in food as you lol... but unfortunately we put a lot of salt and oil in sabji's like matar panner so daal is healthier. My mom makes matar paneer and other sabji's with less salt and oil than the gurdwara but in most punjabi house holds, sabji's are very fatty and unhealthy.

The sad thing is parents of white kids would never make their offspring feel low about something as superficial as height. It's all about empowering the child to be confident in their own skin. Our lot can accumulate huge houses and cars, but the mindset is still stuck in 1950s Panjab.

I agree completely lol

At the end of the day I wouldn't worry too much about height. It's a shame your parents have raised this issue, and you've been made to feel inadequate. Don't worry about it. There's no lack of short girls in the Sikh quom so you aren't going to be left on the shelf when it comes to marriage!

lol marriage was what they were concerned about, for the past few weeks all they've been saying is " tainu rishta nahi labna". I feel fine at this height, but they want me to be at least 6 feet.

I agree with the fact that it brings interest to people about Sikhs. But I still don't think they're worth it when so much money is being spent on them when we can spend the money on other useful things.

Also why does Toronto need to have two Nagar Kirtans every April? I went to both this year because I wanted to see what the difference between them was. The first one was good, but a political fight started in the second one and it was a 6 hour walk because the senior citizens were walking extremely slowly. So much food was wasted (kids ate half of their langar and threw the rest away). The city wasn't too happy after seeing what happened this year, so that kind of put a bad reputation on us. I really think Toronto should only have one instead of two.

I'm vegetarian, does that affect anything?

I was about 14 or so !

But don't get me wrong, this doesn't mean it will work for every one. I can't say that it was controlling posture techniques that was a single factor, but obviously it can do no harm and is good practice for your general health.

Therefore, may be it helped or maybe it didn't, but it didn't do the opposite and it can't !!

If you sit cross-legged on the floor, then watch some yoga videos where it tells you how to sit upright.

The most obvious one that we all fall as victims for, is sitting on couches all slouched or comfy cushioned chairs.

The idea is to keep your spine elongated and extended with all movement- NOTE- all movement is every movement since we use our spine for everything !!- except when sleeping!

For people that have difficulty adjusting whilst sitting, they recommend a big yoga ball. When you sit on this, you just cannot slouch because of the whole steadiness and kinetics.

I agree with you completely. I'm going to try it because it might help with height but even if it doesn't it'll be great for general health. I'm 15 right now (turning 16 in August) so I guess it's worth a try.

Can someone link an article that tells why Nagar Kirtans began in the first place?

PS. I focused a lot on extension and posture techniques when young and I ended up being the tallest in my family at over 6'3''

Thanks for the answer. How old were you when you started poster techniques?