blly21

Behnti to Jagtar Singh Khalsa aka Dalbinderjit SIngh (Sikh Federation) and Chatanga aka Parmjit Singh Dhadis Son (aslo with the Sikh Federation), please stop playin your dirty politics and trying to push your one sided agenda. You are with the Federation 100%, thats your decision, but don't act all innocent. Khalistan_zindabad has summed it up nicley, when a reposentative of the Dharam Yudh Jatha give a statement countering all your issues raised and the truth about who went against Braham Giani Baba Thakur Singhs Bachan and broke the so-called "unity" will be evident for the world to see.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

How sad, jatha bashing already?

Billy isn't it? - Find a sikh name first !!!!

Shaheed Bhai Kanwaljit Singh Sunam, Shaheed Bhai Harmandir Singh Dabwali and Shaheed Bhai Balkar Singh Bombay weren;t even mentioned.

The dharam yudh morcha started by Bhai Daljeet Singh Bittu and Sant Baljit Singh Daduwal was totally ignored.

www.sikhsiyasat.com

These are the current issues that the panth must understand, and if we ignore them then how can we move forward?

As for BSSF, we didnt attend for the same reasons as you my friend, and guru sahib is watch if we were after any self promo.

1stly, I dnt class BSSF as a Jatha, as its made up of you and your friend...therefor "jatha bashing" dosent come in to it!

I am sick and tired of ppl like you, who rather than being positive and finding ways of bettering something allways putting things down.

If YOU want things to be done differently/better GET YOURSELF INVOLVED with the preperation! Sevadaars from across the UK take out time in their busy schedules to pull of an event that remember our GLORIOUS SHAHEEDS. Lets support their efforts and make next year better. The youth up and down the country made the placards off their own backs. If YOU were passionate abot certain things, there was nothing stoping you doing the same.

BSSF was NOT needed as an organisation as everything they want to do is allready being done by established organistaions. The sad state of affairs is this...... we all cuss teh older generation about opening Gurdwara left right and center, are we as youth any better?

The time now is for UNITY not DIVISION! If we cant work together how are we expected to comt under the fold of ONE KESRI NISHAN SAHIB!!!!!?

Your actions with regards to self promo speak for themselves!...................dnt question my motives for being there, but look upon your own!

I presonally feel that the rally could have been more forthright on the freedom angle but we always tend to sigh away from independence and just talk about 84 itself. It left a bitter sweet taste in my mouth!!!!!

What was actually said about how one can help attain khalistan? - not much in my note.

Reading gurbani is the most powerful source for our panth, but we have to also be active in wordly life.

If reading bani was the do all and end all, then why not cancel the future rallies and conventions and do simran in our homes instead?

Possible solutions -

Involve other communties, espically Khasmiri's, assames, naga's, bodo's and tamils.

People from the Nepalese and Pakistani communties would also support if they were given the right information.

25,000 ish out of 750,000 sikhs were at the rally yesterday.

By inviting others, we increase our potential number into the millions and the attendance at future rallies will be above 100,000 for sure.

But for this, it must be a secular events and not just for sikhs and khalistan.

Sangat ji, what do you think?

What wrong Gagan, why so bitter? Is it because the BSSF didnt get and publicity out of it? Why are do people like you allways find negatives in a positive? The march/rally is a "REMEMBRANCE RALLY" to remember 84! I was there, slogans of khalistan were being raised! There were banners with KHALISTAN on them, leaflets were being given out highlighting what happened and why we need KHALISTAN. The need for KHALISTAN was addressed by various talkers from the both stages (hyde park and Trafalgur Sq). Are you sure were talking about the same event.

Why dont you just re-invent the wheel! You like doing that don't you? With regards to the "bitter sweet taste" in your mouth..................go brush your teeth!

So in finishing, rather than putting down an event that paid homage to the Kaums Heroes, an event that with Maharajs Kirpa the youth played an ENORMOUS part in, lets start giving praise to the organisers and participents that turned up.

I got a text saying there were, dunno who you could ask though

Sedgley St Gurdwara in wolves has 2 coaches booked, its 1st come 1st served so contact them asap 01902 459413

BOSS is dead anyway lol. they do a camp once a year then you never hear of them again. or if some program is being organised by someone then boss just have there logo put on for the pomp

i agree lol :WW:

Are you the G Singh that is involved with Akaal Org in wolves?

Fateh

Could some1 pls give more info on vinegars. I know all vinegars go thru the same process as makin sharab but it goes further so it no longer is alchohol. On that note, is it ok to have prducts with white wine vinegar in them?

Pls give feedback

Thanx

Fateh

Bro Vinegar is fine.

But i must say that this mentality of being over catious is just toooooo MUCH..taking things to extreme....

thanx for the replys.

many ppl have asked me this question, so i thort id get the sangats views. Wen it comes to a matter of rehat for an Amritdhari, i think being "over cautious" is the best policy.

Fateh

Could some1 pls give more info on vinegars. I know all vinegars go thru the same process as makin sharab but it goes further so it no longer is alchohol. On that note, is it ok to have prducts with white wine vinegar in them?

Pls give feedback

Thanx

Fateh

Fateh

Could some1 pls give more info on vinegars. I know all vinegars go thru the same process as makin sharab but it goes further so it no longer is alchohol. On that note, is it ok to have prducts with white wine vinegar in them?

Pls give feedback

Thanx

Fateh

Vaheguru Jee Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Jee Kee FATEH!!!!

I think what everyone needs to uderstand is, when the mougals were sitting at Sri Akaal Takhat Sahib orders to the Panth were given from the jungles.

Why should we follow hukam of a so called "jathedar" (vedandi) who we all know is baddals puppet and dosent have a back bone.

We have to follow Gurmat, and anyone who leads the panth the wrong way and tries to split it by giving anti-gurmat "hukams" will be dealt with by Vaheguru himself.

It is time to unite as a Panth and what surprises me the most is that these kinds of issue allways arise at important junctions of Sikhi (300 yrs Gurgaddi Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj).

Just to re-iterate, when the enemy and destoyers of the Quam sit at Takhat Sri Akaal Takhat Sahib and give anti-panthic and anti-Gurmat "hukams" they do NOT have to be followed, they have to be CHALLENGED.

Vaheguru Jee Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Jee Kee FATEH!!!!

That dont mean im anti-SI, dont get me wrong yeh, but i just see too many double standards. You know, SI:1 probably had more scope for education than any of the other SI's due to the fact it had a multimedia presentation on it about the goings on of 1984 and so on. Now, it just seems to be "which bhangra/giddha sample can we rip off next?"

I just wanna say that most bhangra tracks were ripping off da old skool dhadi tunes anyway....I think its a good thing that they are being reclaimed as a DHARMIC TUNE.

Bhul Chik Maaf

yo bruv this track is off the hook! heard it playing in the mela last year! was disaapointed when it wasn't on the cd! couldn't believe it when my baby mother told me IP had gone and put it on the website! sick lyrics!

u guys know ur snizzle!

can't wait for the new CD! 

BLA BLA BLA them mens them a know so!

IP mens them a know so!

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i dont think u are showing a positive image by sayin "baby mother"! all ur doin is showin our younger brothers and sisters that this kind of language/behaviour is ok, wen in reality it is degrading. plus it totally goes against wat the singhs this track is about stood for.

Bhull Chuck Maaf