cyb3r_wolf

quik survey of the saadh sangat

whats ur kirpan like?

taksali? other style?

sarbloh? how many inches is the blade? old/new?

mines a brand new 10" blade length sarbloh taksali.....and im well proud of it....lol......that might be haumai tho 

lol

Guroo nanak sahib nirankar never called islam or hinduism false but called false some of the pratices that they do.

If you want to be good muslim, be good muslim, if you are good hindu, be a good hindu...isnt that said by guroo ji himself??

And look what you guys doing..... you guys are doin nothing but havin false pride .. its our way or no way...these false pride of yourself will be shattered into pieces by guroo maharaj himself... have some tolerance guys... this way you are doing nothing but pushing yourself into "wahabism".

i agree they have 2 much pride..

all will be gone

This happened close to where i live

WJKK WJKF Saadh Sangat Jee!!!

How hard is it to find a DECENT 12" sarbloh kirpan in amritsar round harmandir sahib? r they sold on the stalls around or does one have to hunt around? If not in amritsar where else can you get decent shasters very nearby?

Plz reply quick!

WJKK WJKF

its very hard

and u wont be able to afford it

there needs to be a line drawn between riddhean siddhan and black magic.riddhean siddhean are powers gained thru loads of paath and agursikh lifestyle.and believe me LOADS of singhs have got them......but by using them r even talking about them ur spiritual level goes down alot ..

riddhean siddhean are never meant to be used for self benefit.even guru nanak stopped the stone at panja sahib to prvent it crushing mardana......but as guru gobind singh said sikhs dont perform cheap tricks to wow crouds or save themselves...many people (eg bhai randhir singh) used RS involintarily......

i bet u do magic all the time..

then in this case why not educate girls about their religion?

half of this comes down to upbringing, the way a person is in their childhood determines what happens in their latter years..

indian families in general dont really bother with girls in the family.. but when a boy is born they give out sweets etc..

which is so out of order

if you tell your children the truth they will respect you

if you limit their say.. then they will only get spoilt

and will go behind ur back..

soo if we told the girls about sikhi and told them the real nature of the world they wouldnt do this..

i can convert into mpeg

there should be a mpeg video file on the VCD upload that and then stream

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

man u guys shouldnt hate India

think about all the wonderful things in india..

Like gurdwaras, history

India is a wonderful place, and i wish i was there right now..

yes it is a good place

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cyb3r_wolf, i don't understand why this isn't getting through your head, jatts do run punjab, its fact, just look who has the money and power there.

don't get me wrong, i don't agree with what is going on, but it is fact.

and you keep saying they don't then please tell me who does

ok fair enough

they do rule punjab

Simple solution:

go to the library.. check them all out

Never return them, pay fees for lost books.

you just did seva.

thats been selfish

and very harsh

cyb3r_wolf, you said "only thing that bothers me is when they say they r high and stuff", could you give me an example where i though i was higher.

i personally think castle is becoming less and less of a problem in india, i still think its there but now a day non-jatts are getting into politics and even with marriage people don't care about wheather the person is jatt or not. the problem is far from being solved but i think people are becoming better educated about it.

you just said they rule punjab

i m not sure but i think our local libary even has the guru granth sahib divided into 5 or 6 chapters. i'm just wondering why this is still going on, and that what kind of dumass would check these out from the libary

u calling me a <banned word filter activated> hmmm

picture dont work.

is it the translation by bhai dharam singh and bhai jodh singh in english. its two books but only goes an eighth of the way into krishna avtar.

yep its that one

why doesnt it work

Singh

i have taken a photograph of page one from the translated version.. if u want me to take more photographs i will

with this image just download it and zoom in to read the text

i have uploaded the first page to my server click below to read it... if u want more just ask i will put a website up if u want..

Page 1 Dasam Granth Sahib

its probably some msn group

anyways im out

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i also agree with S1ngh

cyb3r_wolf, you asked "which evidence do u have of this?"

its that all the money and power is in the hands of jatts, i'm not saying this is right or wrong but that its fact.

you also said "i know ur only saying jatts rule because ur jatt i can tell by ur name", i think you should open your mind to what is going on in india, and it doen't matter weather i'm jatt or not.

you also keep saying "and no jatts dont rule punjab!", but please

tell me who does then, don't be so narrow minded by friend.

you also said "the gurus were not jatt now where they?", i don't think this is relevent with what we're talking about here. and didn't one of the singhs on this forum say guru gobind singh was jatt.

i personal don't think your against the "POWER, MONEY GRABBING snakes", i think your just againt jatts overall.

no i aint against them, only thing that bothers me is when they say they r high and stuff, i mean they even have their own forum.. which singh said that guru gobind singh ji was jatt?

i even write singh along my name now so people cant tell which caste i am!

ive honestly had bad experiences with them.. at college they even said they were higher then me, also in school...

hell they even wear T.shirts saying jatts do it....

no caste rules

everyone

is the same

then who does

yeah jatts do rule the punjab.. but what they do?.. POWER, MONEY GRABBING snakes like BADAL Jatts.. sad !!

Jatt .. and all these caste thing is full of bull <admin-profanity filter activated>, unless you are farmer and lives in pind and do all those hard working...

agreed

why do u say jatts rule punjab

which evidence do u have of this?

i know ur only saying jatts rule because ur jatt i can tell by ur name

and no jatts dont rule punjab!

the gurus were not jatt now where they?

jatts rule punjab right now, if khalstain is formed then jatts will rule it.

khalstian won't change the status part of it, so >Bikramjit Singh<, why not support khalstain.

jatts dont rule punjab

yeh

very bz 2day gonna make it short

hukamn says if ur not khalistani ur not a sikh

Gur Fateh!

Sardar Gabroo Jeeo, please could you indicate which hukam and from whom this hukam comes which states as you have suggested that if one if NOT Khalisthani then one doesn't qualify as a Sikh.

This information would be most appreciated.

For the Sangat, just a thought, I don't discount the issues that face Sikhs on a political front and certainly these nee to be attended to, but in reality and let's stick with reality, what is Khalisthan likely to be? Despite the best of intentions, and the last 100 years certainly go to show this as the case, Sikh Politics are almost always over ruled by Jatt politics...will we really have Khalisthan or we will in reality have "Jattisthan"???

It is interesting that amongst Khalisthanis, although many being Amritdharis, so many are also in fact non-amritdhari and clean shaven. Interesting since it has often been my experience in Punjab and in the UK and Canada that for a non-Jatt to qualify as a Sardar he invariably will

be maintaining his beard and turban, however in the case of Jatts it's simple enough to be a Sardar given that they are Punjabi Jatts...so again, whilst fully noting and supporting the socio-political issues facing Sikhs, is Khalisthan the answer to this or is Khalisthan simply a Jatt-driven idea in the guise of Sikh Religious affairs?

I look forward to hearing from you all. This is not a question about believing in castes, I myself am from a mixed background and my upcoming marriage is also 'out of caste' so to speak, I raise the issue with regards to Jatts, for this is a social reality. I not anti-Khalisthani, I ask the questions in good faith and trust that we can answer these accordingly.

Best regards,

Niranjana

what do u mean by "however in the case of Jatts it's simple enough to be a Sardar given that they are Punjabi Jatts..."

let me ask u people one question.. someone in my class a couple of years back said that hes all into his caste etc..

so i said that noone is higher then god

he goes guru gobind singh ji was a jatt

i find this hard to believe

im confused

i got one from the library in the religion section

its all translated