Sewadar

The SikhSangat Team has had a discussion about the moderation rules of the forum over the past few years. We have all agreed to the following moderation system/rules and have committed to follow this system for the betterment of the sangat and to provide more clarity about our guidelines. We want to make this available for all the members so there's no confusion as to why they were given a warning or placed under moderation. Remember, we don't have enmity towards anyone we all seek one purpose and all have a common goal. We want to make this site as best as possible according to gurmat and want to bring forth the qualities of gursikhi like peace, love and compassion in the topics being discussed, the only thing we request is for all members post with love and humility.

WARNINGS

Two warnings will be given to a user to modify his/her behavior and adhere to the forum rules. Warnings may be given without any contact. After 2 warnings, user account will be put for moderation for 30 days. Moderation will be lifted upon the discretion of SikhSangat. User may write to the Admin (SikhSangat@live.com) stating why he/she should be taken off of moderation and how they will strive to make better posts.

BAN

Upon receiving 2 warnings, if the user continues to violate forum rules, it will result in the user being banned from the forum indefinitely without any contact. User may write to the Admin (SikhSangat@live.com) stating why he/she should be taken off of BAN and how they will strive to make better posts. IF we lift the ban, user will stay under moderation until further notice.

REPORT THIS POST

If you think something requires the attention of the moderators or if any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately; please hit the "Report this Post" link on the post in question. This will send an ALERT via PM and email message to SikhSangat so that they can address the problem next time they log on to their computer. This is a manual process, however, so please realize that we may not be able to remove or edit particular messages immediately. You may also contact us at SikhSangat@live.com providing all details such as URL, User ids & brief description of your disagreement.

LAW ENFORCEMENT

Do not post messages that advocate harm or death to anyone, threaten the livelihood of anyone, or otherwise harass anyone. Do not send email, snail mail, phone, fax, or other messages to anyone if your intent is to threaten or harass, and do not encourage others to do the same. Do not take your disagreements off the message board and into the "real world," and do not do anything to try to harm or harass any member of this message board in the "real world." SikhSangat will not responsible for any member's action BUT we will provide member's details and online activity to police officials if requested by law enforcement. This is fair warning to all members to think twice before posting.

CONTACT US

The only official contact of SikhSangat is SikhSangat@live.com. You can also open "Support Ticket" but keep in mind it may take couple of days to respond. Questions about SikhSangat policies belong in the "Feedback" forum. All discussion topics relating to SikhSangat.com policies, procedures, enforcement, etc., which are posted outside of the "Feedback" forum will be deleted.

FORUM RULES

Please review the following moderation rules before posting. Not following the forum rules will result in putting the member on moderation.

A member will be given a warning and put under-moderation for:

• Insulting, name-calling and labeling other members; this includes both the initiating person and the person retaliating.
• Spreading rumors about other person on the forum.
• Never-Ever post any other person's picture without their consent. You may post pictures of public figures such as politicians etc.
• Defamation of other character is not allowed.
• Writing derogatory comments about different jathas of the Sikh panth. Any particular practice of a jatha can be questioned but must be done so in a respectful and non-offensive manner.
• Insulting the Sikh Shaheeds of 1980's is certainly not allowed under any condition.
• Indirect personal attacks, sarcasm towards another member's posts and a negative tone of speech are also liable for a warning without any warning.
• Death threats, soliciting and private messaging bibis on the forum.
• Supporting the Indian government for attacking Darbar Sahib and justifying the 1984 massacre.
• Supporting excommunicated people like Kala afghana and spokespersons.
• Supporting Anti-Sikh organizations/sects/cults and their affiliated websites.
• Posting adult or obscene audio/visual content on the site.
• Posting topics/links against the basic principles of Sikhi.
• Insulting Sikhi, Shabad Guru, Khalsa Panth, Akal Takhat, Sikh identity, Dasam Granth, Sikh Scriptures and calling Sikhi a sect of any other religion will result in the user's ID being disabled until further notice.
• Pro views or justifications or posts that are for ANTI-SIKH organizations/sects will not be allowed on SikhSangat.com and will be deleted and the member will likely be put under quality control/moderation. Most of these organizations include those that have been declared as anti-sikh by Akaal Takht Sahib such as kala afghana, naamdharis, radhasuaamees, etc.
• No personal attack on Jatehdars of Sri Akal Takht Sahib or other 4 Takhts regardless of whatever information you may have. Member may discuss about former Jatehdars but we will not allow anyone to talk negative of any current Jathedars.

**Asking questions for educational reasons is allowed but all posts must be approved by the moderator in that topic.

GENERAL RULES

• While debating and discussion is fine, we will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks or purposeless inflammatory posts. Our decision is final in these matters.
• Refrain yourself from writing any derogatory comments on any religion. Any particular practice of a religion can be questioned but must be done so in a respectful and non-offensive manner.
• Please refrain from posting meaningless threads, one word (or short) non-sense posts, or such.
• Multiple or repeated posting in order to increase your post count is not allowed.
• Use the search function before posting. Chances are your question has already been answered.
• Advertising, spamming and trolling is not allowed. This includes using the forum email and Private message system to spam other members.
• Discussion of illegal activities such as software and music piracy and other intellectual property violations are not allowed.
• Each member is allowed one login account. Registering with multiple accounts is not allowed.
• We reserve the right to remove offensive posts without notice.
• We also reserve the right to ban anyone who willfully violates the forum rules.
• Use a title that describes the content of your post. Don't use all caps or special characters to draw attention.
• Also while these rules cover most common situations, they cannot anticipate everything. Consequently we reserve the right to take any actions we deem appropriate to ensure these forums are not disrupted or abused in any way.
• Private Messages received on these Forums are to be considered private and are not to be posted publicly unless the sender of the private message agrees. Also Participant shall not post messages containing personal phone numbers or addresses.
• Do not post messages that advocate harm or death to anyone, threaten the livelihood of anyone, or otherwise harass anyone. Do not send email, snail mail, phone, fax, or other messages to anyone if your intent is to threaten or harass, and do not encourage others to do the same. Do not take your disagreements off the message board and into the "real world," and do not do anything to try to harm or harass any member of this message board in the "real world."
• Stay on topic. Don't jump into an unrelated discussion and introduce a barely-relevant tangent in order to bring up your pet issue.
• Do not spam the message board.
• When discussing race, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, or religion, please exercise the appropriate level of sensitivity toward others and take extra care to clearly express your point of view. This will help avoid misunderstandings and undeserved accusations of bigotry.
• People who repeatedly and willfully break the rules, or who generally engage in rude, antisocial behavior, will be banned. It doesn't matter if you are a progressive or a long-term member of this board.
• Not responding to or ignoring moderator warnings can lead to suspension. We reserve the right to ban/suspend anyone for any reason, and to delete any post for any reason.
• Any threat or personal attack on any sewadar will result in direct ban. If you have an issue with a moderator you can open a ticket, but open attacks on the board or via PM will result in immediate ban of IP address.
• Insults made against other members on this board are not tolerated, even those made via PM. Warnings will be issued to offending members.

This forum has zero-tolerance for junk. Unsolicited advertisement links and Spammers will be banned immediately and all spam deleted on spot. Abusive and inactive accounts may be removed at moderators consent without any prior notice, to reduce database load.

BRINKERS = NOT ALLOWED

I'm within the rules. Some users find sport in seeing how close they can get to being thrown off a message board. The Admins/sewadars will often have a set of rules (typically known as the "Terms of Service" like this one) which specify how people should conduct themselves. One type of poster, a "brinker", attempts to get as near to the edge as he or she possibly can without actually going over.

Unlike the troll, who directs his or her efforts at the users of a system, the brinker is actually toying with the SikhSangat. He or she can be a thorn in the side of the administrator, holding the good name and popularity of the system at stake. Administrators hesitate to throw people off the system unless they have broken an explicit rule.

LANGUAGE

Although we do our best to cater for all, we do have certain limitations on SikhSangat. Language is one of them because you will notice the vast majority of posts are in English which has a universal base as it is one of the most used languages in the world. Communication is a problem in this world. It is one of the main causes for World Wars and poverty as well as in divorces and so on. And having taken these points into consideration, SikhSangat would like to request to all Sangat to please use English language to your advantage and post on this forum with language that every other member can understand. We all use slang language in our day to day speaking, but the advantage of this being a forum, means you can think longer about what you want to say with more time to express it. Extreme use of slang language is confusing to many members on this forum and will no longer be tolerated by moderators. Members can use Punjabi language in their posts. We will allow slang to a certain extent but SikhSangat reserve the right to choose the level allowed and will from hereon be moderating certain members more closely.

ADVERTISING

We do not allow people to post threads or to send private messages or emails to users here that advertise or solicit any services. Explicit advertising in sigs is also prohibited. Advertising, spamming and trolling is not allowed. This includes using the forum email and Private message system to spam other members. There is SikhSangat Advertisement program which can be seen here: http://sikhsangat.com/adverts

SIGNATURE RULES

Links in signatures must follow these guidelines:

• A link and promotional text for a site that is not commercial provided the site is not against Sikhi or does not violate SikhSangat community standards. The SikhSangat.com team shall be the sole arbitrator of what does and what does not violate community standards.
• Duplicate links to the same URL in a sig are not allowed.

Size: All signatures should not exceed the following size limits, and you can't have both text and images

• For text signatures: 4 lines normal size, 8 lines small size and up to 90 chars per line. Font sizes above 2 are not allowed. (Blank lines count as lines.)
• For images in signatures: 1 image up to 200 pixels wide, 75 pixels tall and 20k in size
• Animated images in sigs are not allowed

AVATARS

Obscene images such as beheaded animals, pornography or inappropriate content (swf files) or images are not allowed.

SOME FACTS ABOUT SIKHSANGAT

• SikhSangat will not have bias views. Thus we will not have sewadars who is associated with any Jathabandis.

• SikhSangat will reply to every email (SikhSangat@live.com) we receive as humanly possible.

• SikhSangat will respect its member privacy by not sharing their emails, PM with anyone.

• SikhSangat does not hold any grudge against anyone.

• SikhSangat is Neutral Forum.

MODERATORS & YOU

Treat all moderators with respect. Do not post messages attacking the moderators or administrators. All of the moderators on this discussion board are volunteers. They provide their time and their good judgment to this website free of charge. They do not make the rules; they only enforce the rules. They do not deserve to have scorn heaped upon them either publicly or privately. Anyone attacking moderation will earn a BAN without any warning.

Please be aware that moderators are not expected to be online all the time, and therefore they cannot respond immediately to every problem that arises on this discussion board. If you send an alert or complaint to a moderator, please give that moderator sufficient time to respond. Do not assume that a moderator is ignoring your concerns merely because he or she does not respond as quickly as you would like.

When a moderator enforces the message board rules, members are expected to respect their authority and abide by their decisions. If you disagree with a moderator's decision, you are encouraged to politely explain why you disagree. Do not send rude, dismissive, or disrespectful responses to the moderators. If you think a moderator has acted inappropriately, please contact the administrators privately at SikhSangat@live.com, so we can deal with it. Do not publicly post private messages you receive from moderators and administrators.

ADMINISTRATORS & YOU

If you have any questions about the rules of this message board, please contact the website administrators by sending an email to sikhsangat@live.com.

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belkum bro

Waheguru jee ka khalsa

Waheguru jee ke fateh

We see this statement of W!N as the response to this thread. http://forums.waheguroo.com/index.ppa?showtopic=9608

Seems like they are not willing to have a talk. Sewadars of this website will discuss and will let sangat know what is in future and that will be the last decision we will make on this issue.

Waheguru jee ka khalsa

Waheguru jee ke fateh

Waheguru jee ka khalsa

Waheguru jee ke fateh!!

So yeah.. Sikhsangatooo, Last week was really tough one. SikhSangat.com definitely belongs to Sangats and from reading several requests, we admins of this forum decided to offer Waheguroo Network to join hand once again but there are some simple conditions: No sewadar can stay as GUPT, this way not all sewadars of sikhsangat.com get blames of having biased views and dividing sikh panth into more different parts in reality. Believe us forums can mess up young youths mind. Why you don't want to be Gupt? Do we want our names to be in front and gets “Wah wah”, Ego? No, ego has nothing to do with not being Gupt. Being Gupt allows sewadars hundreds of chance to skip under the table and save their name. If someone edits, delete any post, he/she should take responsibility to explain why the post is deleted or edited. Being Gupt one will think, “Oh heck who care, they don’t even know who deleted it or edited it” and that did happened hundreds/thousands of times. We are open to discuss the possibilities of having one united forum. The talk must held in public and everything will be discussed in front of sangats and conclusion will be drawn by SikhSangat’s top members. This is the only possible action we are willing to take. Rest is in waheguru jee's hand.

However, at the same time we also decided not to allow any new post regarding W!N and Sikhsangat partition anymore under any section besides "Feedbacks". If anyone wants to know about it please go to feedback section or use the search option.

Waheguru jee ka Khalsa

Waheguru jee ke fateh!

Daljeet Singh

Amardeep Singh

Vicky Singh

:umm:

Keep your posts clean and avoid personal attacks. what happened is all in the past. Move on. Topic Closed.

Wooooaaaahh !

Gurfateh Saaadh Sangat jee

I humbly request my veer Waheguroo Network Council members who are posting on this forum since morning; Please Do not do emotional blackmail to young youths here. And please post by one ID instead of multiples? Simmal tree please don't post as a confused person, we know that you know everything on this matter.

Let us explain everything in crystal clear truth, then it's you who will decide. We tried our best not to tell anything to public what happened as W!N is gupt, so we respect their privacy. By their sad posts, we are force to reveal some information below. If we are more forced then we will keep everything open in front of public as we have nothing to hide :umm:

Youmay ask Why :

First of all SikhSangat.com was completely different Website, it was not meant to be fully integrated with Waheguroo.com website (That were the wishes of the Original SikhSangat sewadars). SikhSangat.com was meant to be Runned and maintained by only original "NEUTRAL" members who weren't even Amritdhari when they started this forum. Third week after we joined Waheguroo.com decided to take action against one of the original Admin sewadar. He was made a member by the council members and other original sewadars weren't even aware of that. Upon knowing this we made him admin again and we were glad that next time same issue didn't came up

Main Issues :

Original Sewadars views clashes with *Few* main network sewadars. Recently, about a month ago we created a list of duties for the Sewadars and the rules were very simple. One rule was "Admin CANNOT close the TOPIC just because it goes against his/her view." That rule is very simple and it doesn't gives a chance for any admin to mis-use his powers. Sadly, we continue to see some peoples personal reply and then they close the topic. This doesn't only shows bias views and mis-use of management powers but also it hurts peoples like late Parminder Singh. Gurmat Studies met sewadars of Network during their 2003 winter Fresno Gurmat Camp. Parminder singh and other singhs main issue was exactly the same i mentioned above and Waheguroo network sewadars do remember that meeting and so does dozens of other Gurmat Studies sewadars who were there in the meeting.

We still say Waheguroo network is the great panthic website not only backed by students but also by sangat. But sometime someone has to draw line to serve the public more openly without holding any secrets.

Waheguroo network being down is simply a way to earn pity respect or support from sangat. Sorry for being harsh but thats true. How Keertan.net, Khalsa.tv, Sikhi is integrated with the SikhSangat.com. No Username database was deleted by us. Only files which Solely belongs to SikhSangat.com was taken away. In fact recently it was Network Admins who to hide/delete the "SQL Database Backup" option from the Admin panel because it was them who didn't trust us after saint soldiers left them. How can we work in a team, when one member can't trust other? We don't seek answers to the above questions, we are mature enough to think what's right and whats wrong and instead of fights and finger pointing we decided to leave quietly and we will stay on our own and we will make sure that RULES APPLIES TO BOTH ADMINS AND MEMBERS.

Other issue is Privacy of the members on the old forum, which we will not discuss.

Hope we answered everything, if still someon is in doubt, pls email us @ contact@sikhsangat.com

Waheguru jee ka khalsa

Waheguru jee ke fateh!!

Waheguroo ji ka khalsa

Waheguroo ji ki fateh!

Dear Sikh Sangat ji,

You've noticed there have been certain changes to SikhSangat.com and we want to enforce the quality of SikhSangat back to the level it was so that we have no members leaving the forum due to lack of learning or lack of quality.

We noticed there have been alot more questions posted by the members, before posting a question, you MUST do the following:

1) Search for an answer on the internet.

2) Use the Search feature on the board.

If you don't find the topic, only then post a topic, no-one wants the same topic to be discussed repeatedly or answer the same questions. This rule will be enforced alot since there are many repeated topics.

If you have any questions regarding anything, you can PM the ADMIN.

Your sewadar,

ADMIN

Waheguroo ji ka khalsa

Waheguroo ji ki fateh!

But are the same people running the site ?

Or are new people doing seva to run this site ?

Admins/mods are slashed from 20 to 4. We will announce you exact details soon after sewadars conference.

and Sarbloh_soulja veerjee hope you have a great day :umm:

Old Posts/Replies

We are sorry to inform sangat that we will not be able to upload data of past few days. It took us days to upload the big database of old posts. With guru jees grace none of the old posts and files are lost. We are also sorry to inform that 20 new members has been lost while doing uploading and they have to go through the registeration process.

Rules & Guidelines

We, sewadars will encourage sangata to go through the rules and guidelines section @ http://www.sikhsangat.com/rules/ and we will give couple of weeks for forum members to go through that section. Thanks Morrakhmuggadh, broken link is fixed now.

Minor fixes

Currently SikhSangat.com is under minor modifications. We will have the full established forum template up soon, couple of bugs will be taken care of. If you find any bug or errors, pls do contact us @ contact@Sikhsangat.com. Gurmukhi fonts and other major modifications will be up in a week.

Sewadars

Our guideline completely shows that none of the current sewadars will have any deep link with any jathabandi at all. Sikhsangat.com was born as Neutral and it will stay neutral. Sewadars of Sikhsangat will have conference to set long term goals and discuss the forum rules throughly.

At end Waheguroo Network is Panthic Awesome Network. Keertan.net Rocks :umm: and we had great time with network sewadars and we will support them in panthic issues as we will support any other panthic organizations.

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa

Waheguru ji ki Fateh

In the past three days we have upgraded the forum scripts, to a newer version. We have moved servers and have had to move very large amount of data. As you can see a lot of the features from the previous forums are currently missing, but we will bring them back.

The topics from past three days, are all safe however not availabe in this forum. We will try to restore them add them to the current forum but if we can not do that then we shall provide a suitable alternative.

Please give us time, meanwhile, keep the sikhi discussions going.

We see this change as the last option for the forum sewadars to uphold the quality of the forum.

Please take your time to read the following SikhSangat Press Release

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Waheguroo Jee Kaa Khalsa

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!!

We at SikhSangat.com would like to convey this news to our members that we decided to have an independent status online for our forums. Sikhsangat.com, as u know, was being hosted with the Waheguroo!Network since June 2003, after being an independent forum for more than a year. SikhSangat forum's founders took this initial step of becoming independent again, for a better management control within the forum.

We would like to inform the sangat that we have supported the Waheguroo!Network in the past, and still continue to do so.

We have reinforced our original rule that none of the sewadars will be strongly associated with any particular jathebandi, so that we can do unbiased moderation sewa.

We would like our members to have good quality discussions, without them getting frustrated at each other. There is a new set of rules and guidelines for the forums, a link to which can be found on the forum. We request you to go through them.

If you have any suggestions, queries, or problems, please do not hesitate to email us at contact@sikhsangat.com

Sincerely,

Sikhsangat.com Team

Waheguroo Jee Kaa Khalsa

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!!

Waheguroo Jee Kaa Khalsa

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!!

Our apologies to the sangat that the posts during last three days have not yet been included on the forums. Also, the users who registered during last 2 or 3 days might have to register again. We regret the inconvenience.

Other small bugs are being fixed at the moment. Your feedback will be much appreciated in the feedback section of the forum, or through email at contact@sikhsangat.com

Waheguroo Jee Kaa Khalsa

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!!

p.s Please have the discussion in the following topic

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.ppa?showtopic=9446

Waheguroo Jee Kaa Khalsa

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!!

We at SikhSangat.com would like to convey this news to our members that we decided to have an independent status online for our forums. Sikhsangat.com, as u know, was being hosted with the Waheguroo!Network since June 2003, after being an independent forum for more than a year. SikhSangat forum's founders took this initial step of becoming independent again, for a better management control within the forum.

We would like to inform the sangat that we have supported the Waheguroo!Network in the past, and still continue to do so.

We have reinforced our original rule that none of the sewadars will be strongly associated with any particular jathebandi, so that we can do unbiased moderation sewa.

We would like our members to have good quality discussions, without them getting frustrated at each other. There is a new set of rules and guidelines for the forums, a link to which can be found on the forum. We request you to go through them.

If you have any suggestions, queries, or problems, please do not hesitate to email us at contact@sikhsangat.com

Sincerely,

Sikhsangat.com Team

Waheguroo Jee Kaa Khalsa

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

sadh sangat jee its sad to see our sikhi radio giving these types of ads, it should not be given,to all sadh sangat hath jod ke benti he pls DONOT send any hatred emails,pls be calm and nimrta bhurvak thank u.

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!

Guru Pyare Khalsa Sadh Sangat Jeeo,

Yesterday was a very interesting day in that we learned the advantages and dangers of our actions.

We protested against HaHaPanties having a Khanda on their panties for sale. The reaction was, few people sent polite e-mails to this individual. However, many people sent veiled death threats, curse words, and embarrassing e-mails.

This action of our members has hurt the entire seva team of SikhSangat.com. We feel personally embarrassed and offended by the conduct of some hooligans. Furthermore, this puts a stain on the whole of the sangat that visits this forum. Lastly, this action resulted in a negative impression created in the mind of the HaHaPanties.com website owner.

We humbly ask you, where in Gurmat is it written that the first reaction to a protest is immature and violent e-mails?

This action by those individuals was completely inappropriate and indefensible. In the future, we will continue to stand for truth. We will continue to fight ignorance. We will continue to protest injustice, racism, prejudice and bigotry. However, if anybody uses our platform to launch hate mail, death threats, cursing, or other hateful messages at another person, there will be consequences.

Please do not force us to go on strike, or shut down the site, or ban users, or have to do damage control.

Please accept our humble benti - in the future, first fight ignorance with patience, then fight with determination, then fight with resilience, then fight with passion. Use e-mails, flyers, pamphlets, magazines, newspapers, radio, tv, letters,

phone calls, meetings, negotiations, protests, rallies, hunger strikes, and only in life and death situations, fight with physical means.

But never fight ignorance with more ignorance and hatred.

In the Spirit of Panthic Ektha & Chardee Kalaa,

ADMIN Sevadaars

SikhSangat.com

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!

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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!

Dear Veerjee,

We understand your concerns and we are not outside of them. Many Gursikhs have fallen victim and are still victims of the five thieves of Kaam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh, and Ahankaar. They are called thieves (punj chor) for a reason.

They steal away all of your naam and baanee kamaee, everything that you spent so much time and love to earn. They waste it on cheap disgusting ideas, thoughts and actions. They leave you feeling depressed, alone, and without a place to turn to.

However, in the saadhsangat, there is no chance of this happening. Veerjee, we strongly encourage you to take the following steps to cure this problem:

1) In the morning after you do your nitnem, stand in front of Guru Ji one day, and make a solemn promise. Think in your mind that in front of you Guru Gobind Singh Ji, the king of the universe, is sitting there listening to your promise. Say it verbally, tell Guru jee what you have been doing. Describe everything you have done to Guru jee. You might start to cry. That's too bad. This is called "facing your actions." Once you face them, you can realize the problem within them.

Stand there and say all of the things you have thought and done, and then apologize to Guru jee for drifting from the path of Sikhi and promise Guru jee that it won't happen again. Tell Guru jee that because of this folly, you have a commitment. You will give yourself a "punishment" (which is actually a reward), called "thankhaa" which means wages. This will be a certain amount of simran or paath or whatever you think is right for your situation.

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If you have commited a kurehit, or if your heart feels like doing so, you can instead go to the Punj Pyare and get a "thankhaa" from them.

2) In your mind keep the shabads "Par triyaa roop na paykhai naytr" and "jam kaa dandd karaaraa bhaee" in your mind always.

3) Veerjee, NEVER let another person insult you and your Guru by making fun of your dastaar and pulling it out. BEFORE this happens again - let those people know you will not tolerate that behaviour in the future. Don't take any of this abuse, give your last warning right away. After that, if they don't listen, you will need to talk with your school principal and file an assault complaint. If you don't do this, those people will continue to do these things.

4) GET RID OF THOSE FAKE FRIENDS! Try to find saadhsangat. Try to find Gursikhs who are into Sikhi. If there aren't any in your school, try to find Christians, Muslims, Hindus who are faithful to their religion and will respect you for being faithful to your religion. Do not associate with bad sangat.

5) Keep in touch. Keep in touch with sikhsangat forum people, with us (W!N ADMIN), and with all of the other Sikh services out there. They are here to help you. They are all tools that Guru jee is using to help you. Please make use of them.

I hope this has been helpful. If we made any mistakes in this post please forgive us.

In the Spirit of Panthic Ektha & Chardee Kalaa,

ADMIN Sevadaars

SikhSangat.com

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!

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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!

We couldn't vote in the poll because we have to remain impartial.

Our apologies to all those who couldn't vote due to technical difficulties.

It appears however that the voting poll works for most people as the votes have been increasing.

If you are reading this message, please vote and ask your friends on this forum to vote.

Once we have 10% (representative sample) of the total SikhSangat members voted, we will post a second poll with the top 5 ideas.

NOTE TO ALL - this is just an idea that many members have posted about from jkaur to rsingh and all the a to z singhs and kaurs in between :wub: . We know the sangat wants this to happen but you all know it will take some time. In the meanwhile please send all your ideas and suggestions to use by e-mail at contact@sikhsangat.com

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Further discussion on women in the Punj Pyare will not be allowed.

Either revert back to the original topic of "Amrit is Essential for Salvation" or the topic will be closed.

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One of our SikhSangat forum members is Santbir Singh. He lives in [edited: VANCOUVER, not Montreal] but he used to be involved in the McGill University SSA. Please search his name in the members list and PM him as he might have some experience in this regard.

BCSikhYouth.com and CASikhYouth.com might be good places to look.

Also there are so many SSA's out there, you could search "Sikh Students Association" on Google and go to their websites to find what events they are doing.

Hope this helps!

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sometimes it says this:

THE FOLLOWING ERROR(S) WERE FOUNDYou cannot upload this type of file

i allways get that whenever i try to post a pic up...how do u fix that?

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You are getting that error message because the images you are trying to upload are bigger in file size than allowed.

You may attach a file to this message.

Maximum file size (in bytes): 35840

Please make sure that the File size of the attachment is no greater than 35.5kb, This limit is set to save space on our heavily used servers.

My advice is that you use the following method to add image attachments in the posts.

http://www.imageshack.us/

If you simply register with the above website and upload the image there then you can link the image in your posts using the IMG tag. the above website lets you upload large images and its easier on our server as well.

The valid files that are allowed to be uploaded on our server to be attached are jpg files and word documents.

jpg files sho

uld not be bigger than 35.5kb and this can be found out by right clicking on the file and clicking properties.

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On this day in 2004, Bhai Joginder Singh Jee Talwara passed away. And after that, in the year 2004, we lost so many chardikala gursikhs... but we are still strong. Having a Memorial Page for them is sure not a big tribute, but it is just a small effort to keep their lifestyle alive in our society. They were our role models, and taught us great lessons. We owe to them and we will repay it by being more strong in our sikhi, and keep their memory alive in our community.

SikhSangat.com Press Team dedicates http://forums.waheguroo.com/press to the chardi kala gursikhs of 2004 who left us for Guru jees sangat.

We will keep the sangat updated on SikhSangat Press page once in a month !!

Chardikala!

Press team

Press@Sikhsangat.com

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We would like to tell our users that now they can customized their profiles. Want to tell your favorite website, your favorite Keertania ? Go to My Controls >> Edit Profile ino under Personal Profile. Sewadars will keep updating small minor modifications like this.

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