Reecon

14 hours ago, JUSTAJATT said:

there is no paap in doing jaap of any mantra from gurbani...>>as long as the intention is out of pure prem for waheguru.

I'm not gonna make judgements on other sects but from harsharan's examples above, it seems like one cult or sect just continues to fight in the playground with the other sects.  

Someone said above that all gurbani is mantar>> and that is correct. You can sit there saying ek onkaar repearedly if you want. God's not gonna ignore ya.

MANTAR -> means MAN which is MIND. and TAR defines to a tool or something we use to produce an outcome from something. Therfore, MANTAR=,means MIND-Tool.   >>>Game is ALL about the MANN-MIND and how to steady it to focus on just the ONE sachay patshah.  >>>>> as long as you use the mantar fro this purpose and it's from guru''s bani, ie. something that Guru has given personally, >>then there's no problem with this. Dont' matter whether radhasomai, nirankaaris , 3ho or whoever> sings their own versions. WE don't need to be judging them>let GOD do the judging.

 

I know and i can tell you all as i did u-turn on my own life just by starting to jap gurmantar.. I had gone to anger managent classes repeatedly for years and couldn't get any control over this edge of mine.  II know you plonkas on here will try and provoke me as usual cuz of my "jatt" ness factor in my name. But you guys gotta learn that i'm changing one thing at a time and i've come a long way from the streets where i used to be selling gear. In all fairness, bring it on if you want but you just gonna bark at a brick wall. i'm in the absorbing phase at the moment and that means the more punches i take, the tougher i get and the more ego i shed, cuz you will just be knocking off layers of my ego with ya puches....  

 

Thank you. 

Your first sentence was basically the answer I was looking for. 

Because the 'mantra' is something they use I didn't know if it was proper for one to do.

Thank you. 

11 hours ago, singh598 said:

Your just a little pathetic baby with your pathetic questions

Even the recitation of just gurmuki

Akhar can give you mukti let alone a sentence of bani

All Gurbani is mantar

okay...

I didn't realise that you dwell on an infinitely higher intellectual plain and that my pathetic questions would have offended you so much. 

Thanks Singh. 

WJKK WJKF

I have a question about this mantra. 

https://www.3ho.org/kundalini-yoga/mantra/kundalini-yoga-mantras/mantra-toolkit-chattra-chakkra-varti

It is the last part of jaap sahib. I stumbled across it on YouTube and began researching the meaning. 

I'm a little torn. Should a sikh be taking snippets of bani and using them as a mantra (apologies for lack of a better word)? 

These are the words of our guru so reciting them can't be bad right? 

I am not a 3ho person nor do I understand a great deal about them. 

I hope my question makes sense. 

please forgive me for any mistakes I have made.

WJKK WJKF

I agree. A moving depiction of our Guru’s is wrong. We’ve always known this. It is beyond me why the Director would allow this to happen.

That’s the reason Chaar Sahibzaade was received so well, it was respectful.

1) Bhai Gurdas Vaaraan. Vaar 1 Pauri 27 and 34

This is perfect. Thank you.

VJKK VJKF

There are two quotes that I once heard; I can't seem to remember them or find them.

If anyone can point me in the right direction that would be great:

1) A quote about Guru Nanak Dev Ji being a lion and roaring, I recall that the word Singh is used to describe Guru Nanak Dev Ji.

2) A quite about how is doesn't matter if a Sikh is in a Mosque or Mandir or any other place of worship as long as he has Waheguru inside of him he cannot be affected by anything, or words to that affect.

I'm aware that this is a rather obscure post but, they have been on my mind so if Sangat could shed any light that would be great!

Bhul Chuk Maaf

VJKK VJKF

VJKK VJKF

I wear a Kenyan style dastar and I've never been able to get my patka underneath quite right. I've got no one to teach me and I've been tying what is a basic 'child like' patka underneath for years.

What do you tie under your dastar? I want something that feels a little more comfortable underneath.

Any help would be greatly apprenticed.

Please post pics and/or directions how to tie.

Bhul Chuk Maaf