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On 4/8/2018 at 1:41 PM, SuchaSoorma said:

Sikh is someone who follows the teaching of the 10 gurus.A hindu is people who believe in devtaey, aartis, etc. No the hazur sahib people won't be sikhs. they have gone so far from true sikhi that they are basically hindus. they rely on these karam kand elements of religion. They have gone away from the true message and root of sikhi. Gurus put coins and coconut I didn't say that was wrong. You can doubt what the gurus did, you can't compare them to regular sikhs. The gurus also never did any aarti standing up. Guru Ji set the aarti to be sung in kirtan form like how other shabad are sung (i.e on a stage).

You have written that hajur sahib people were doing arti are not Sikhs. Who has given you this authority tell others, do you have any certificate from guru ji say that they are not Sikhs? Who you are ? How can you say people doing arti are not Sikhs. Has it written by guru ji in Sri gruru granth sahib that the people who perform arti are not sikhs ? If it is there please show us.

Your are saying that person who is obeying teaching of 10 guru he is only Sikh. Are you sikh ? how many teaching  of 10 gurus you obey ? sri guru granth sahib ji has banis of 6 gurus what about other 4 gurus what are the their teachings ? is it written there by 7^th guru by 8^th guru ? any teaching written by themselves there? And please tell how many person like you are obeying 100% teaching there are 2 types of teaching which teaching you are saying 1 type of teaching is in guru granth sahib ji and bhai gurdass ji and 2^nd is in rehtnama

Are you a sikh? Do you obey teaching of 10 gurus ? which thing do you obey ? in sri guru granth sahib ji it is written to see others virtues not others bad things what you are doing ? are you obeying guru jis teaching are you a sikh ?

Why you can not see that it was only namdharis who have tried to unite the whole panth no one has tried this step.

On 4/7/2018 at 6:24 PM, BhForce said:

In order to have a conversation, can you state whether you are a Namdhari, and if so, to which group do you belong?

Namdharis are belongs to 10 gurus satguru Nanak dev ji and satguru gobind singh ji.

On 4/6/2018 at 3:31 PM, monatosingh said:

He also said he was going to convert from Namdhari to mainstream Khalsa, haven't seen that happen yet...

Earlier, also namdharis were khalsa, and today as well they are Khalsa. Dalip Singh never preached that he'll convert namdharis into khalsa. Though he narrow down the distance by preaching them to wear kirpan and greet each other with fateh "waheguru ji ka Khalsa waheguru ji ki Fateh". Also, he made namdharis to do sewa at Annadpur Sahib , Pounta Sahib and Patna Sahib. What more is needed? Lastly, please clarify us the definition of khalsa as described by Guru Granth Sahib ji.

14 hours ago, SuchaSoorma said:

These namdharis are not Sikhs. 

Has guru nanak dev and guru gobind singh ji said that I am sikh, is it written in any gurbani in sri guru granth sahib ji? Has guru nanak dev ji and guru gobind singh ji said ever that I belong only to the Sikhs or I am only the guru of the Sikhs? any answer according to the gurbani? 

14 hours ago, SuchaSoorma said:

These namdharis are not Sikhs. They say a lot but in the end but dont't follow through. They might say they are not hindus but they also pratice so many hindu rituals such as aarti standing up with thaals and they also do havans. If they were truly against the RSS and Hinduism they would start practicing actual SIkhi given to us not this Brahmin one they follow.

Please first clarify the definition of Sikh and Hindu. Who is Sikh? Who is Hindu? Please explain this. Ritual of Aarti is also carried out in Hazoor Sahib too. Aren't they Sikhs? And also in many more Gurudwaras disciples perform Aarti. Aren't they Sikhs? Our Gurus while elevating successor of Guru Gaddi, always put some coins and one coconut. Aren't they Sikhs? Please clarify.

On 12/21/2017 at 11:23 PM, MrDoaba said:

Yeah he's the one. He has some good things to say, tries to work for the qaum in general, promotes Gurmukhi etc. His status has been reduced from to Guru to Sant, although there's no doubt many of his followers still see him as Guru. In all fairness he does tell them not to call him that. Their Samparda is working for Ekta in the Panth which is commendable.

I must say, Namdharis have a solid Maryada.

He is sneaky though, he still promotes Namdhari beliefs (to him and his chele Jagjit Singh was technically the last Guru) but at the same time he's more mainstream. While they don't have the level of Satkaar for SGGS as they should, they have started to address Guru Sahib as Guru. He's also met and been a guest of some prominent Gursikhs as far as I know. A warm reception usually.

Some women got caught doing his Aarti recently, which landed him in some sh!t from Akal Takht however.

And how do you know this wasn't the original way of Anand Kaaraj? The way they do it is probably the way it was done back in the day.

yes therefore he ordered their followers to address with properly to guru granth sahib ji, we ordered namdharis to hold 3 feel long kirpan and did many more work and still doing according to the gurbani only for ekta, 

On 12/21/2017 at 4:48 PM, sikhni777 said:

Almost anything we see theee days has a double meaning.  The naamdharis do not even have fere around SGGS at their weddings.  They have Guru jis after Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Are they now realising their mistakes? 

It seems a device to use to lure youngsters into their dharam and to justify and hide the mistakes their panth has made in the past.

let me know who started this fere maryada ? Anand Maryada ? search find explore then answered me.

On 9/7/2017 at 4:53 PM, simran345 said:

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This is the same as saying "ask where it is written in gurbani that human can be a guru"

Firstly you tell about our 10 dehdari guru they were also come with human body

On 9/7/2017 at 4:53 PM, simran345 said:

This is the same as saying "ask where it is written in gurbani that human can be a guru"

The dehdari people are not Sikhs, but following a cult and probably some man that they call their guru. 

As Sikhs we do not bow down to any other, than Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. 

There are people that will try to twist and misinterpret Gurbani for their own agenda. Don't fall for it, and don't just take anybody's words for what they say. Read Gurbani yourself, ask questions, listen to katha on Gurbani. Make yourself equipped with knowledge for yourself. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise, until you understand the meanings yourself. 

who are the sikhs? where is written that dehdari are not sikhs then our 10 guru were also in deh in body what will you say about them ? our gurus write that

ਸਿਖੀ ਸਿਖਿਆ ਗੁਰ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ॥

Sikhee Sikhiaa Gur Veechaar ||

Contemplating the Guru, I have been taught these teachings;