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H4RINDER Ji

You know what you so far stuck up the baba that you fail to see the truth...

The questions and points i raised still havent been answered.... Apart from the Pics about the Langar..Again you proved that we need to mention names of who done the sewa...

To be honest I have never organised Guru Ka Langar on the baba's scale but I have seen lots of Singh and Singhnia who do lots of Sewa at the Gurdwara Sahib everyday and never claim any Sewa they do. Only thing I ever hear from them is that "This is Guru's work and he's doing everything"...

these are the type of babas we should stay away from. everyone thinks that there baba is the true brahmgyani until they find out the ugly truth. we shouldn't believe in so many baba's and sants because in the end it is our personal relationship with waheguru that will matter, nothing else. i believe in sant jarnail singh as a sant, but don't just listen to his speeches all day. listen to gurbani also. that was one of sant jarnail singhs main issues to be around gurbani. my main point is love your guru more than you love any sant or baba.

Himat 408... you said it beautifully...

I personally beleive that during our time if there has been a true Sant Sapahi...that is Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale...

AND

A true Bhagat of our time is Bhagat Puran Singh Pingalwara Wale...

So it was show of who's doing the Sewa???

I thought any type of Sewa is Nishkam Sewa (meaning no names)???

During the 300 years celebration of Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji in Nanded there was a banner saying Sant Baba Maan Singh Langar…

I always thought Langar is always Guru Ka Langar???

LOL, Here comes another issue, mate if dont like Baba Ji, its cool, it really is, dont stress yourself!

But please keep bringing the issues, as its getting rather funnily stupid now....but heres your answer:

Please tell me where there was a banner saying Sant Baba Mann Singh's Langar,

The sign said, GURU KA LANGAR, SEWA BY SANT BABA MANN SINGH JI AND SANT BABA MOHAN SINGH JI, This was on the entrance to the langar.

SEE THE LINKS AND GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT

http://www.theworldofgurunanak.com/300th%20Gurgaddi%20Oct%202008%20Gallery/300GSHS%20Gallery%2039.htm

http://www.theworldofgurunanak.com/300th%20Gurgaddi%20Oct%202008%20Gallery/300GSHS%20Gallery%2063.htm

Exaclty the same as every other Langar, across the road from the Langar Sewa Baba Ji carried out was the Langar Sewa carried out by Bhai Sahib Bhai Mohinder Singh Ji GNNSJ and Sant Baba Labh Singh Ji, they also had a sign saying GURU KA LANGAR - SEWA BY BHAI SAHIB BHAI MOHINDER SINGH JI AND SANT BABA LABH SINGH JI.

Further down there was Langar sewa carried out by another Sant, upon the entrance there was also a sign saying GURU KA LANGAR - SEWA BY ..........

So lets chill out with the pointless criticism, and if your not interested in Baba Ji, dont stress carry on with your life.

During the 300 years celebration of Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji in Nanded there was a banner saying Sant Baba Maan Singh Langar…

I always thought Langar is always Guru Ka Langar???

what are you guys going on about, now if baba ji has a police man standing next to them hes a government agent, come on guys your being a bit petty now!!

the reason for baba ji having the security was so the government wouldnt look like idiots because they hardly gave any aid and the least they could was provide support and help for those that were providing aid

....no offence or anything but where do you guys get you info from.....from looking at a picture, reading a news paper article or hearing it from someone else???? thats hardly solid evidence is it!

Tell me this...

Why would a person who is loved by everyone need So much Security... Who is the baba scared from???

One simple question in regards to the Baba's Security...

If the Baba does so much Sikhi Parchaar, Helps with Humanitarian Aid around the world and loved by everyone then what is the need for the baba to have so many Goverment's armed body guard

Now that the previous issues have failed to stick, here comes along another tactic...why doesnt Baba Ji give anything out of their own pocket......

simple answer, they have dedicated their entire life to preaching Sikhi, helping the poor, carrying out massive Sikhi based programmes throughout the world, giving credit to the entire sikh nation in India by carrying out a huge week long smaagam at Lal Qila in Delhi, openly telling the truth throughout the worlds stages.......

....It is for this simple reason, people cannot bear the chardi kala of any Gursikh let alone Baba Ji that issues such as why does Baba Ji give anything out his own pocket arise....

How come you forget to realise,understand and get through your keski, that Baba Ji has dedicated their entire life to Sikhi from the age of 18 to now 55, preaching Sikhi throughout the world. Baba Ji left home at the age of 18 and to this day there is not a single rupee on Baba Ji's name....Its all in the name of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..to be used exlcusively for Sikhi based programmes, hence the large scale langars, kirtan darbars, humanitarion relief camps, nagr kirtan, amrit sanchaars, etc etc.

So if there is an issue with jealousy as to why Baba Ji's name due to the Sewa they have done, (i.e. dedicate their entire life to Sikhi without any family memeber, rupee or blanket to their name), gleams within many followers then Sangat Ji......to me it seems black and white....

FOR JEALOUSLY THERE IS NO CURE, AS FOR MANY ITS A DISEASE WITHIN.

So if you think Baba Ji has been funded by the govt, hasnt dedicated anything, hasnt done anything and is a fake, then fair enough good luck to you, but dont think your two words of wisdom on a keyboard behind a pc flat screen are going to influence the wiser and greater dedicated ones.

CAN YOU THE SUPER DUPER BABA LOVER PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US ALL WHY YOUR BABA HAS DOZENS OF PANJAB POLICE COMMANDOS..DO US ALL A FAVOUR AND ANSWER THIS ONE QUESTION !!!! YOUR FAILURE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE CLOSENESS OF YOUR BABA THE "BLACK SHEEP " TO THE GOVERNMENT.

nobody stands a chance in any court in Hindustan against your baba because he is as corrupt as the government that supports him !!!

GET A BLOODY LIFE AND STOP FOLLOWING FOOLS, YOUR KIDS DESERVE BETTER !!!!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Sun Singh ji... I 've read the link that you mentioned... but sorry to say that the post still doesnt answer any of the questions...

I understand what Guru Ji Says in the Sukhmani Sahib regarding Sant's and Brahmgiani's...

The questions I asked are diferent and the link to the post doesnt answer those...

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

I have couple of questions that I have asked number of times but never had a satisfactory answer.

Q1. What is the definition of a sant given by our Guru, Guru Granth Sahib ji?

Q2. Were there any Sant's during Guru Ji time? If yes, who?

Q3. How many Sikh Sant's are there in Panjab alone?

Q4. How do you recognise a Sant?

One last thing for now…

Most of us don't go to the local Gurdwara Sahib every evening to listen to Rehraas Sahib, Kirtan or Katha, yet we go out of our ways to see some guys doing Kirtan or Katha just because they have the title Sant before their name. WHY?

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

perhaps you'll find your answers in this thread: http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/36921-do-sants-exist/page__hl__sants

I agree with Hoshiarpuria...

Another thing... No one has yet replied to my questions...

Sant Followers you might be able to answer these questions since you had the oppertunity to have the sangat of the sant or sants...

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

I have couple of questions that I have asked number of times but never had a satisfactory answer.

Q1. What is the definition of a sant given by our Guru, Guru Granth Sahib ji?

Q2. Were there any Sant’s during Guru Ji time? If yes, who?

Q3. How many Sikh Sant’s are there in Panjab alone?

Q4. How do you recognise a Sant?

One last thing for now…

Most of us don’t go to the local Gurdwara Sahib every evening to listen to Rehraas Sahib, Kirtan or Katha, yet we go out of our ways to see some guys doing Kirtan or Katha just because they have the title Sant before their name. WHY?

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki fateh

Sikh Sangat Ji,

I have just been to Ramgharia Gurdwara Sahib and have spoken to some of the committee member and the Giani Sahib of the Gurdwara. It is clear there was a big Misunderstanding about meat or andiya dee sabjee. The Singh who spoke to the Ginai ji yesterday misheard him and what he saw in the Patila was Paneer de Sabjee.

If you have any further queries you can PM me.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Dukh Nivaran ji could you please confirm if it really happened at the Ramgharia Gurdwara Sahib.. Or is it a Different Gurdwara.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

My friends were in Birmingham City today, and were hungry and decided to go eat at the Gurdwara. The closest Gurdwara there was the Ramgharia one. They had heard some rumours that meat is served that Gurdwara, but refused to believe it, hence went along with it. They walked in, did Matha Tekh to Shri Guru Granth Sahib Jee, and found the place almost empty, only 2 people in the whole Gurdwara, and the Darbar abandoned. They went and sat down in the Langar Hall. After a while a man came out of the kitchen with what seemed to them like Andiya Dee Sabjee. They were speechless, but thought themselves to be mistaken. They walked into the kitchen and asked the man there, what Dhal, Sabjee they had. He replied with 'None' and he goes but we got some meat and Andiya dee Sabjee. They looked into the Pot and in there was exactly what the man had said. This is major beadbi to Shri Guru Granth Sahib and whether the Sangat is aware or not of this issue, some action needs to be taken.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Request to all Sikh sangat... Please look at the photo's and newspaper articles before saying that people responsible were the actions in Vienna were wrong…

We should not fight amongst ourselves but look at the facts.

The incident was not in anyway to do with cast… read the articles… I’m sorry I haven’t got the English translation of the articles..

Bhul Chuk Muaf

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Request to all Sikh sangat... Please look at the photo's and newspaper articles before saying that people responsible were the actions in Vienna were wrong…

We should not fight amongst ourselves but look at the facts.

The incident was not in anyway to do with cast… read the articles… I’m sorry I haven’t got the English translation of the articles..

Bhul Chuk Muaf

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Request to all Sikh sangat... Please look at the photo's and newspaper articles before saying that people responsible were the actions in Vienna were wrong…

We should not fight amongst ourselves but look at the facts.

The incident was not in anyway to do with cast… read the articles… I’m sorry I haven’t got the English translation of the articles..

Bhul Chuk Muaf

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Request to all Sikh sangat... Please look at the photo's and newspaper articles before saying that people responsible were the actions in Vienna were wrong…

We should not fight amongst ourselves but look at the facts.

The incident was not in anyway to do with cast… read the articles… I’m sorry I haven’t got the English translation of the articles..

Bhul Chuk Muaf

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

What happened to R4G campaign? :umm:

R4G is not an organisation..... Sikh Sangat is R4G Campaign....

What I dont understand why do people look at other to do something... We all have a duty to something when something goes wrong...

For the prople who blamed the Singh's for the disturbance at the Vaisakhi... READ AND LEARN THE FACTS... EVERYTHING HAPPENED BECAUSE OF TARI KANDOLA AND POWAR...

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Anyone or any Akhara who is interested in taking part in this event please contact the number on the poster or Mr Bass Singh. The sponsorship forms will be available on Monday but only be sent out to those who are taking part in it. Any one who is interested in doing Gatka Free play for 12 hours please contact the number as soon as possible so we can send out the training pack.

We also need as many Keertani and Nagaara players for the day.

Rabb Rakha

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Gurfateh Sangat Jio,

For the last 3 months I have been buying a copy of The Sikh Times and have noticed that There always is a Gurbani section. I personally think it is wrong as the paper ends up on the floor or ends up in the bins. I have wrote and sent Numerous E-mails raising my concern but failed to recieve a response.

Previously The Sikh Times Wrote a article on Guru Granth Sahib Mahraj and called it a book, which I feel is sincerly wrong.

I am asking the Sangat about their views on this issue as I might be wrong.

Vaheguroo Jee Kee Ka Khalsa, Vaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

There is a Hukam Namma issued by Akaal Takhat Sahib that states that Sahib Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji can not be taken to any club, hotel, bars or banqueting hall. try and get hold of that copy and use the Hukham Namma to stop these baedbi from taking place...I will try and put the copy of the Hukam Namma on net..

Rabb Rakha

Benti to Edmonton Singhs and Singhnias - Control the situation now before it gets out of hand.

Tell the granthi not to do this again and get support for the local Gurdwaras that Maharaj's saroop must never go to hotel, clubs, bars, banqueting halls....

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fetah

This is to all the people who use the “Ashtpadi’s” from Sukhmani Sahib and say the we shouldn’t do “Nindya” of a Sant… I agree with them… BUT my question is… DO YOU PEOPLE KNOW THE DEFINATION OF WHO SANT IS???

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Guru Pyaree Sadh Sangat ji

Just wanted to thank everyone for being present and showing support yesterday at Sedgly Street Gurudwara sahib... It was good to see everyone getting together to stop Guru Maharaj ji's disrespect at ekniwas...

However request to everyone to keep cool and calm... And stay tuned for the out come of the meeting on 6th July...

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

What was decided yesterday??

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

The Sadh Sangat Decided the ek niwasi can NOT keep Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji there and they can NOT open a Gurudwara....

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

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h cum on man everbody has info on ek niwas but not anglo sikh wars marvellous

What's the difference between the Aarti in SAHIB SHRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB and the arti that the mahant's or pundits do???

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