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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh My dear brothers and sisters What are we trying to achieve here?? I agree 100% with SIKHA. I have ocasionally watched Sant Tarlochan Das Ji's katha, satsang and kirtan on Sky channel 807. Personally I have neither found or seen anything untoward in their message with regards to the Sikh dharam. I am a very passionate amrit dhari Sikh and will not tolerate any beadbi of Dhan Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. I have studied and researched this Sant and I have found nothing that gives me persoanlly any cause for concern. Sikh samaj has always stood for the truth and against injustice. Our respected Guru Ji's fought to liberate humankind from oppression and tyrany. When the whole world is moving froward why are we going 500 years back? As SIKHA says we are not better than the Moghuls. Please can any brother or sister kindly provide concrete evidence of any wrong doing so that the whole Sikh community can pull together and deal with this issue unitedly. I will be the first one to raise a voice. Until such time it is not right to waste sangat's time with negativity and hatred. We should all be chanelling our energies in a positive manner and reciting Waheguru jaap and Gurbani path. Gurfateh

Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala To Khalistan zindabad and Sarpanch Bhaji, Unfortunately I was not there. So I could not tell you what happened. However I don’t think the way that you are telling the events that day is correct, like you said ‘rumours’. Sarpanch Bhaji I am quite disappointed to hear your comment ‘Just remember what Singhs in Southall did to your 1st Pakhandi Darsahan dasss’. And even the way you tell your story I don’t think that’s right. You tell the story if you are proud of such likes behaviour and I do not agree such actions represent Sikhi. Your comment ‘mr dasss ran for his life’ is completely false. Why would Maharaz Ji run, as he has done nothing wrong he has only done his God given duty to spread the love of God. Like I have said before in my previous comments Maharaz Ji’s message has been the same message of every one of Gods messengers. Now for you to say or promote religious hatred is really bad. Bhaji I would just like to remind you that everyone’s actions including yours will be questioned when it is a judgement and this includes the Nindya of Sants that some individuals do. Bhaji, we all can only try our best to reach God, and this is through the way we live our life. Come on we all know how hard it is to fight the five inner thieves, Kaam, Krodh, Loh, Moh and Hankaar. But comments like what you are spreading are not going to help you. The diverse way in each and everyone worships God, we all get blessing… God has love for everyone. Now think what will happen to the people that stop spiritual programmes/events that are in the praise of God and Unity of All and how will one justify such action on judgement. Dear Mann Kaum Layee, Bhaji, your comment ‘what right or in what capacity do you come here to defend a group and man who is completly oppsotite to the sikh ethos?’ Firstly bhaji, I have already said in my previous comments that Maharaz Ji message is the same message of all Gods messengers, Love Peace and Unity through humanitarianism and meditation on Naam Shabad. And regarding Sikhism, it is a beautiful religion but like I said in my previous comments all faiths are Gods therefore all paths lead to one Almighty Power. Regarding defending Maharaz Ji I have already put my comments forward and I just tried to show that Maharaz Ji is not against any religion but that he embraces all faiths of God as the Messengers of God’s principle teachings are all the same. Bhaji I am not the best person to question as I have little knowledge but I know the love that Maharaz Ji has created inside me for God through his teachings are strong. Bull Chuk Maaf if I have hurt or upset you in anyway, I am just trying to show you that Maharaz Ji is not anti Sikh as some individuals claim. Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala

Chatanga Ji, I know that there were a few articles and news reports on the assassination of Maharaz Darshan Das Ji. But I have never heard the statement ‘Guru of the Sikh visiting UK’. Bhaji firstly I would like to say that this statement is wrong. Maharaz Darshan Das Ji as well as Maharaz Tarlochan Darshan Das Ji both say that within Sikhism there have only been 10 Gurus and will only be 10 Guru Ji’s. They have never claimed to be a Guru. Likewise I am sure you can understand that in this article ‘Anti Sikh Preacher....’ this is wrong too as Maharaz Ji’s teaching and the Sachkand Nanak Dham Mission is not anti Sikh. Bhaji regarding your Comment ‘instrumental tool in undermining the Sikh basic teaching that Shabad is Guru’; I think there have been so many lies and rumours Maharaz Ji’s teaching have been twisted. Maharaz Ji has never undermined the teaching of Shabad Guru. Instead Maharaz Ji strengthens this and highlights the importance of Shabad Guru through satsangs. In Maharaz Ji teachings he constantly tells sangat the importance of Naam Shabad and that God’s source is Naam Shabad. Therefore he is an instrumental tool of God. Mann Kaum Layee Ji, Bhaji don’t take this to heart but I think there is a great misunderstanding about Maharaz Ji and through this comment you have made ‘fronts for the assimilation of the Sikh identity into Hinduism’. Bhaji this comment I highlighted is one of the reason people get confused. Maharaz Ji teaches one almighty God; all religions are his as he has created many paths for us. So Maharaz Ji is not trying to convert you but encourage the unity of all religions (as we say ekta). I know that everyone’s religion is deep in their heart but it’s not about conversion, but about the praises of God that he is in everyone and therefore all believers of all faiths. Regarding the topic of pilgrimages I agree that pilgrimages by itself will not give you mukti. As Chatanga bhaji so kindly put it, it’s through your actions and the way you live your life. This is a teaching that Maharaz Ji also tells his sangat. Personally I believe people go on pilgrimages/yaatra for their own Sukh Shanti. This is not to say that giving respect at religious places do not give a person anything. As it does, I am sure that the people that do go attend holy places, God does give them blessings but it’s the way you live your life that is important too. Myself I would love to go Nankana Sahib, Hazoor Sahib and Hem Kunt Sahib. As these places are my heart and souls desires. If I am lucky I will go one day. Come on bhaji I am sure you know what I mean when we go Sri Harmandir Sahib how amazing is that! Regarding your comment ‘look we aren't stupid…. we know your agenda and it’s not accepted by the wider Sikh community.’ Bhaji I never said you are stupid, in fact you have great passion and love for Sikhism. All I am saying that how you have love for Sikhism other people have the same love for their religion. Regarding Maharaz Ji and his teaching I just wanted to show to you that the teachings and beliefs he has showed us and taught us is the same of every one of Gods Messengers. Hey bhaji you know it’s a discussion and you have put your views forward and I have just tried to show my views and the teachings I have learnt from Maharaz Ji. I hope we can have another discussion but hopefully on another topic. Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala.

Chatanga Ji, Bhaji, firstly I don’t know about that newspaper article you are talking about. But I can def say that Maharaz Darshan Das Ji never claimed to a Guru/God. And the other comment about toes? Bhaji, that is really wrong to say. I really don’t know who and what lies someone has been telling you. But that is a complete lie and furthermore that is really insulting. Regarding Sants I have to disagree with your comment-‘a Sant does not teach you anything in life’. A Sant teaches you everything in life to reach God. A Sant spreads the love of God. A Sant Makes you realise your actions and to get you on the path of God. ‘Guru Granth Sahib teaches all. Sants only convey this message’ Yes I can understand what you are saying but remember this The Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a collection of Banis from Gurus, Bhagats and Sants. So in essence a Sant is a messenger of God that blesses us as we hear the praises of God and how to reach God, in Shabad roop within a Sants Bani. This is my personal belief. KhalsaMan Ji, Bhaji How can you say that you thank someone for killing another person? It’s bad just to say this regarding an individual but to say that about one of Gods Messengers is really wrong. We are all brought up from our parents to give respect to each and every person. The main belief as God is within everyone therefore if you hurt someone’s dil that is paap as the true house of God is within each and every one of us. But to say such a thing about God Messenger that is wrong. If we look in the past through different religions/faiths we see that when Gods messengers are sent they always have a struggle in their life and even the sacrifice of their own life for the wellbeing mankind. However they all go leaving the same message Peace, Love and Unity through Humanitarianism, and the meditation on Naam Shabad to try to reach God. Bhaji Please think before you write such things. Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala.

Dear Kucha Singh, Bhaji, I would like to say Maharaz Darshan Das Ji, has done no beadbi of Guru Granth Sahib, Gurbani and the Sikh Guru’s. Maharaz Ji had much love for the Guru Granth Sahib Ji and the Sikh Gurus. If you ever watch a Satsang or listen to a tape I believe we will all realise that Maharaz Darshan Das only promoted Peace Love and Unity through humanitarianism and meditation on Gods name. Bhaji your comment ‘This is fact and cannot be denied’ sorry but I really have to disagree. Could I just ask you why do you think that? Maharaz Darshan Das also showed lots of love for the Gurbani and taught Sangat the importance of the Guru Granth Sahib Ji; Maharaz Ji also respected all faiths. He has much love for God and showed this love through his teachings giving example from various faiths, Banis of Bhagats and Gurus. Dear Chatanga ji, You call Maharaz ji a ‘hypocrite’ in praising and doing mehma of Sahib Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji ‘Because he does not believe in either’. Bhaji Maharaz ji has great respect and love for Dasmesh Pitah Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji. Guru Gobind Singh Ji has done so much for us all. The sacrifices Guru Ji did for us as Sangat will never be able to repay. We can only try to live our lives to the best and praise God and Guru Ji for their Kirpa and teachings. Regarding Panj Pyaare and Amrit, Maharaz ji also has respect for this as Guru Gobind Singh ji blessed Sangat with such Kirpa. Bhaji your quote ‘His father promoted himslef as a Guru of the Sikhs’ it completely false. He never said that he was guru but always Das. Maharaz Darshan Das Ji as Gods Messenger taught Sangat to love God, that he is within you and we should try and reach him through meditation of Naam Shabad and Bani. Bhaji I do agree with you ‘reliance on a Sant in your life does not guarenteee mukti’ But a Sant does teach you the Path of God and the Sangat the love for God. And with a Sants Teaching if you live your life in accordance with teachings you have got a better chance to reach God. Naam Shabad Bani is very important in all of our lives and through this we hope to get to a closer stage towards God. So yes everything is dependent on your actions, a teaching that Maharaz Ji tells all the sangat over and over again. Sorry Bhaji I don’t mean to be argumentative, it’s just a discussion and I am just trying to show you that don’t believe in all the lies individuals have been spreading. I have only tried to give an attempt of Maharaz ji teachings and that they are the same principle beliefs of every one of Gods Messengers. Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat da Bhala

Dear Sangat ji, Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala, Regarding SSF Firstly, Waheguru Jee ka Khalsa Waheguru Jee Ke Fateh. Bhaji, Regarding your question if Maharaz Tarlochan Darshan Das ji claims to be guru? The answer is no, Maharaz ji says that he is only a sevak doing his sewa/duty which is God given. The sangat have given him the title Maharaz ji out of respect. Do you follow Sri Guru Granth sahib ji? Yes, I do believe in Sri Guru Granth sahib ji. Maharaz ji teaches us to have great love and respect for Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Maharaz always explains that guru ji is the ultimate truth, the word of God. Darshan Das? Well Maharaz ji, Is Gods messenger. Maharaz ji teaches us to love god, and respect for all faiths as all religions are held in the highest regard. As all messengers in the past have stated God is within you, you have to meditate on naam shabad to get nearer to God. This may be through Waheguru Naam, Raam Naam, Allah Naam and the many other names of God. Personally the way I see it is that Waheguru is everything you can not say that Waheguru only created one religion, all religions are his, all people of different cultures and walk of lifes are his…. everything is his. If you say that this is wrong I would humbly disagree. The importance of a Sant in your life I believe is significant, only a Sant can explain the way of God; as most of us do not have the ability to understand every meaning of the way of God. In most religions the status of a Sant is held very high. For instance, when we go to the Gurudwara we hear the mehma/ praises of Sants in our Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji all the time. So bhaji I hope you understand Maharaz ji does not claim to be god or a guru, but Maharaz ji has been doing this seva trying to get people to understand that God is within us all and all faiths lead to the almighty God, whether we call god Waheguru, Raam, Allah etc. I hope you understand. Bhull chuck maaf! Dear Harmeet Singh, Yes that’s true I do believe in Sikhi. And regarding your quote Guru Ji said: SABH SIKHAN KOH HUKAM HAI GURU MANEYO GRANTH, Yes I understand what you are saying but also you have to Respect the Mehma of Sants in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji as well. As we are Sikhs on this forum we all understand the struggle our Gurus and the sangat have gone through in order for us, as Sikhs, to praise God in the way the ten Gurus have taught us. Harmeet Singh ji I also hope that I have explained and answered your question/statement. Again If I have said anything wrong bhull chuck maaf. Dear Mann Kaum Layee, Bhaji, Please try to understand that Maharaz ji explains like every other one of Gods messenger that God is within us all. All religions are his. You asked “How does this guy teach you Guru Granth Sahib Ji and the teachings of Mohammad and Hinduism at the same time”? Maharaz Ji, when doing satsangs/katha he explains the meaning of the vaak. He gives us examples of all faiths and all Guru Banis telling us sakhis, these examples may be from Christianity, Sikhism, Islam, Hinduism and many more. However most importantly we are made to recognise that God is within us all and to do lokh bhalaee (to do good for others). So in essence I believe you need not go to Hajj or to bathe in the Ganga, but there is no harm to go and give your respects at Mecca if you are a Muslim and for a Hindu to pay their respects at the Ganga Mandir, instead what is most important is the cleansing of the mind and the belief that we are all on the same journey trying our best to connect to God. We hear Sants and preachers give examples of different Religions. For example the late Sant Maskeen Ji use to do beautiful Katha and also explained that God is one and we are all on different paths to reach him. “How many readings have you guys used from the Quran, bible, and Vedas? Has your "Maharaz" ever read the Quran or Bible”? I hope I have already answered this question, Yes Maharaz ji does give quotes out of all religious scriptures and the many many Banis of Bhagats and Gurus. Bhaji, like every messenger of God, we can look back and see this through different faiths, they all teach the same principal teaching, that God is one and within us all. And regarding your comment ‘lonely life’ I believe that when you believe in God you are never alone and for that reason, God has created many religions and paths for us. If I have said anything to upset you bhull chukk maaf. Pyaar parri Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala.

Dear Sangat JI, I am writing in response to the article ‘Anti-Sikh preacher barred from temple’ and the above comments that Mahraz Tarlochan Darshan Das is Anti- Sikh. Firstly I would like to say that I am very disappointed that anyone would say such a comment. The article is based on hear-say as the sources have never been to or even heard a discourse by Hazur Mahraz Tarlochan Darshan Das Jee. I quote from Cllr Singh "I have not heard him speak, but he is reputed to be anti-Sikh". Your claim that Hazur Mahraz Tarlochan Darshan Das Jee is anti-Sikh is categorically UNTRUE! I am Sikh myself. I would like you to understand that in our faith we are taught to respect each and every faith. We also hold reverence to those that spread the name of God; Hazur Mahraz Tarlochan Darshan Das Jee is a man that does so. As a Sikh I listen to many kathas/spiritual discourses and those by Hazur Mahraz Tarlochan Darshan Das Jee, the only message he states is the love for god and to do to things in your life to help others as well as to do good for someone else. This can be understood through the phrase ‘Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala’ a phrase that is in our Sikh prayers. Sachkhand Nanak Dham is a peaceful way of multi-faith life; it was founded by His Holiness Hazur Mahraz Darshan Das Jee. We are taught that God is One and all faiths lead to one God. His Holiness Hazur Mahraz Darshan Das and Hazur Mahraz Tarlochan Darshan Das Jee teach the love for God, whether that is the Holy 10 Sikh Gurus, Jesus, Mohammed/Allah, the Hindu Gods and the many more Sants/ Bhagats. Mahraz ji has so much love and respect for the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and all other religious scriptures. The basic teachings are that God is within us all and an emphasis on the fact that we are all one. The sangat that attend Hazur Mahraz Tarlochan Darshan Das Jee’s spiritual discourses are a diverse, multi faith sangat. Sachkhand Nanak Dham is a mission of humanitarianism. The teachings are the praises of God, and respect for all faiths and those from all walks of life. All religions are held in the highest regard and respect. So please do not incite hatred, as Mahraz ji has only spread the message of peace, love and unity. Thanks Sim. Sab sangat nu pyaar pari…. Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat da Bhala.