singhsaab kamal

Replying to "singhsaab kamal" veer ji and generally:

ppl seem to often confuse respecting with worshiping, we should WORSHIP Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and RESPECT Sants. Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, tells us repeatedly of the greatness of a Sant and no matter how much satkar u give them this will always fall short infront of their kamayee.

Sants attach ppl to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and not to themselves. They tell sakhiya of our beautiful Gurus and the great Sahibzaada's, to show and inspire how one should live. The donations are used were given: at the Gurdwara on Parchaar and Sewa, and not on buying a big house and spending on their family lol.

Really, I feel if anyone should question somone it should be themselves.

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i agree with you, i didnt say not to respect thm, just we shoudnt worship them, wch is wat some of our fellow sikhs are doing.

u say sants attach ppl to the guru granth sahib, this agen i agree with, bt only true sants do this, many that i have met and have herd of do otherwise, all i pray is that we should be careful, not to end up worshipping them.

i agree yet again! lol..i didnt say i was perfect far from it, waheguru is the only perfection, and i am happy to question and correct my self :lol: that is wat sikhi is :nihungsmile:

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may i add that i am a gursikh my self...whatever i say i try to say to better our community.

How do we know you're a gursikh? That's a powerful word. You said you have much to learn, but you have already reached the status of gursikh?????

Also, I didn't really care for how you said most Sants are involved in the "sin of maya". I shut people like you off when they talk like that. Unless you can tell me what makes you the "chosen one", I'm fixing to make a note of your username and ignore your future posts because you weren't my cup of tea the first time around. I find it funny that you were so concerned with Namstang's post.

hahah!!! Ur failing to understand sikhi my brother....the word "SIKH" means to learn!!! even after you shak amrit we are all still learning!!!

also i didnt ask you to start following word for word wat i sed, you should be reading maharaj and following wat they say ,,,and eniwy believe wat u like, all i ask is you actually think about it, as i sed b4, not all sants do wat they do 4 maya, they teach good and insperational katha, but the majority are in it for money, tht is all i sed

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Fateh ji

I get wot ur sayin. The whole "stay away from muslims" thing seems to have spread everywhere. Aslong as you trust them then bas thats it. I have 2 bets friends. To be honest my muslim best friend encourages me to go to the gurdwara and go the kirtans more than my sikh friend. Its cuz they share the same passion for religion... Ok they belive in Islam but aslong as they dont force you into beliving anything then take their passion and make ur sikhi stronger. Someitmes apne bandhe that call them selves "sikh" can be the worst, smoking, dating and drinking. So dont base your opinions on religion.

I hope i helped

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yh thats xactly how i feel nw :lol: thnx a lot penji

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thanx for all of your replies :lol: , reli appreciate it!!

yh i know not to get too close to them, but wen i was younger i woudnt evn talk to them, lol i was always getting into fights or arguments with em...but i agree now i think about it, hangin out with em is making me stronger about myself and what sikhi teaches ...

and just 4 the record no1s tried to convert me yet , nd trust me they ent gna try lol, but thnx

nd hanji haha im gna stick with changai bundai haha :lol:

thanx agen...

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can i say tht paaji namstang, is ur post neccessary? do we need to take the p out of other sikh brothers??

@paaji kam1825

"Tell me who do you use to show the youth of today how you should live your life in accordance to gurmat."

how can u come to ask this question?? Firstly, the Guru Granth Sahib includes every single thing a sikh needs to become a true sikh. why else would Our beloved Guru Gobind Singh tell us to accept maharaj as our next Guru??

people seem to forget this and turn to sants instead, maybe because they are the easy option i dnt knw.... i agree many "sants" of today have done great things, but the majority are involved in the sin of maya. the whole idea of sikhi is to escape these sins!....also u ask who to you turn to to show the youth how they should live?? how about the sakhiya of the Gurus?? or even of the Sahibzaade, who sacrificed their lives for us?? surely this shows the youth something?

may i add that i am a gursikh my self...whatever i say i try to say to better our community.

also while i say that Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale were tryly special people, they should not be worshippd! Guru Granth Sahib is the true Guru, from maharaj we can get closer to Rabh, the only being whom we should bow our heads to

also

"If you thinks Sants come to make money then what about Sant Baljinder Singh Rara Sahib, Sant Lakhbir Singh Ratwara Sahib and other Sadhus who will not take any maya from a gurdwara or from divaans."

they may not take directly from the diwan but do they accept money from followers?? do they not accept generous donations?

moving onto the keertani jathas, i will admit i do listen to them, they do perform beautiful keertan....however i do not follow/worship them....they are no mre than me or you, they have the gift of simran, this is where we should follow them, as sikhs we should participate in keertan....

please forgive me if i have offended anyone further, i merely wish to express my opinion, and to spread the word of the Guru, Guru Nanak Dev Ji tought us to move away from maya and idol worship...by followin sants, are we not turning them into idols?

i stick by the Guru Granth Sahib, it contains answers to everything and anything...agin forgive me if i have said wrong or have offended anyone..i am still young and have much to learn :nihungsmile:

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my skwl is full of muslims !! its almost 50% muslim!! as a sikh i obv dnt have a personal thing against them, the problem i hav is th way most of them act...wen i was younger i gt into fights with a lot of them, there isnt reli eni sikhs in my skwl, only 2 in my yr the rest are younger...i used to hang around with goreh and evrything was kwl..but after yr 11 the goreh i used to hang around with strtd to drink and take drugs...i didnt wnt eni part of it and so i mde the choice to mke friends with other ppl (Muslims) i knw some ppl r gna think im an <banned word filter activated> lol..bt the reason 4 this is the muslims dont drink, nd the 1s hu take drugs nd tht crap stick to themselves...

the thing is my parents think i should strt hangin with goreh agen, they probs think im gna get influenced or sumit by the muslims lol :lol: ...atm i spend time with goreh nd muslims, bt i get the feelin tht ppl are strting to associate me with thm wch is strting to get to me...

does eni1 have eni advice for me on wt i should do?? should i stick with my goreh mates??

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gur fateh,

personally i would beat the crap out of the guy!! but im not the smartest of persons

the best thing to do would be to ignore what ppl think, and just tell the coll whats happening, and i think if there arent eni singhs in the coll or ur area that u knw, violence shouldn't be used.

where im from muslims are not a minority, my skwl is 50% muslim!! in my previous years i gained a reputation of causing trouble with them..im in ma last yr ne, iv learnt that not all of them are bad, but they aren't to be trustd...i reckon u should atleast let the head of ur coll knw, and dont let ppl chnge the way u think.. keep strong :e:

iv probs repeated wt other brothers n sisters hv sed :lol: ...dno if thts eni hlp to u bt fout id let ya knw lol

hpe all the best for u penji

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if enough of us report it as abusive youtube have to take it off....

is this person a sikh she should be ashamed!! even if she is mentally unstable it doesn't make it ok.

may waheguru help her

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Good points some people are practising sant worship, with their collection of pictures of these religious types.

I have even scene pictures put in front of SGGS in Gurdwara, which is a complete disgrace.

Some Sants never tell you about real Sikh cos if they did, they would never make any money.

Look at Sant Mann, trying do some kind of miracle by preying while in cold water. This is contradiction of what Sikhi tells us.

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i agree, sant worship is increasing, our sikh brothers and sisters are falling into the trap of these so called sants... if they were truly "sants" then they would also understand sikhi, and not dwell in maya.

:nihungsmile: peace to all