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  1. Lets get the facts straight here: FACT: If the Gurdwara was not involved this centre would never have been made or been able to survive as long as has.For over 15 years (excluding the last 4 years)all the bills of the Centre where jointly paid out of the Gurdwaras bank account, FACT: The Gurdwaras charity number and ownership of the freehold is not in question its the Gurdwara who own and run this building Fact: The money collected for the centre was done under the Gurdwaras name....Giving money to the Gurdwara is one thing...giving money to a bunch of community members to have a party hall is another.... Fact: The Building can function as a Community Centre not just a place to have parties....Have a look at Edward Street, Smethwick Community Center the Nishkam Centre all run by Gurdwara NO meat or alchol or parties there!! Fact: The Sikh Agenda has now changed If we don't start investing time in our children and communities using a sikh ethos and begin to dilute our relgion we have no future!!! The Gurdwara's role is one of protecting the panth not distroying it!! Fact: The gurdwara is opposite the centre on one hand you preach Sikhi the next minute you have your ears pollluted with Bhangra Music and guys smoking outside the centre whilst the gurdwara committee members or sevedars are joining in!! Fact: I have been to dudley gurdwara for many years has my golak money been used to fund maas shaarab YES IT HAS!!!!
  2. All quite on the western front!! plans are probably being made to convert the centre to a Asian Centre...that way they can hold walimaah parties as well whilst allowing the "Indian" Parties to continue.... Inviting the muslim community in ahhhh....and the government has said multi culturalism has failed in Britain!!! THE FREEHOLD BELONGS TO THE GURDWARA!!!
  3. This clearly shows what we all suspected for a long time!! The cultural centre clearly belongs to the Gurdwara the rumour coming out of the langar hall is that the trustees and president are going to say that ownership of the centre belongs to the council not the gurdwara so the parties can continue regardless: FACT: The building was used as the gurdwara for 2 to 3 years when the other gurdwara was being built FACT: The gurdwara management committee has always ran the centre no council member has ever sat on the management committee of the centre FACT: After recent plans to extend the centre where drawn a centre committee member (MOD EDIT) demanded that the gurdwara pay 2k of the 5k architects bill, I'm not sure if this has been paid but this 2k is sangat golak money and is being used to promote more parties and the extension FACT: It will be impossible for the Centre with the income it generates to secure any loan on 70k the gurdwara will have to be the asurer. FACT: If the Centre was closed tommorow the Gurdwara would actually better off. FACT: IF the Gurdwara actually cared about the Youth and others they could actuslly do so much using the space to promote health and well being rather than a place where oldies can play thaash These are all facts and not chuglia I congratulate satkar group of taking a interest in this and look forward to see what happens here.
  4. this will be a hard one as Dudley Gurdwara has a history of manmat and anti gurmat marahda the gurdwara is basically being run by oldies who run it like a club based on friendship and dirty politice and do not allow real guru sikhs and the youth to be given a voice. These people are only interested in the centre and once that is closed for parties they will probably leave the gurdwara all together as they have little interest in promoting sikhi.The whole thing needs to be looked at and the pakandi amridharies really need to be exposed. They think by changing the name of the centre and sign outside the centre will be sufficient to carry on this activity. The building is owned the gurdwara and sometimes you get higher attendances at the parties than the gurdwara itself and people oftern come into the gurdwara before and after the party so have had meat and and sharab before they come and on occasion this has been members of the gurdwara committee.
  5. Mod Note: The follow thread has been allowed to stay up but it does not represent FACT, the posters has specified throughout the response that they obtained this information from a third party and therefore its validity should be taken therefore as such. Personal references and attacks have been removed or edited to remain in the spirit of why this thread was started. Please refrain from making personal attacks and posting up personal information as it will be removed and aim to stick to the topic at hand. Dear Sangat I attended the gurdwara on Wellington Road Dudley today and was disgusted with what is going on in this gurdwara and the continous behadbi that is being sponsored by the committee and the trustees. The stage secretary Jasbir Singh Rai (MOD EDIT), Piara Singh Purewal (MOD EDIT) and Ajit Singh (MOD EDIT) and Darshan Singh Atwal (MOD EDIT) have all decided that they are willing to remortgage the gurdwara in order to to extend the party hall in order to attract more parties at the community centre in front of the gurdwara. (removed by mod) This is disgusting in a previous year some people slept in the gurdwara as they were too drunk to drive home (edited) Peope like this should be on a banned list and should not be allowed to run gurdwaras and I hope the campaign to stop gurdwara party halls takes action on this !! wjkwjf
  6. Yesterday a meeting was held by eldery sangat of Dudley administered by the 5 member management commitee which it was agreed that the party hall owned by the Gurdwara would be extended to attract more wedding parties and that the sangats money could be used to pay for it. It was also suggested that the gurdwara could be used as a security for any loan for the extension. if the sangat has decided this can we do anything to stop it other than stop putting money in the golak??
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