Posts posted by caveman
Episode 232 hours ago, Mahakaal96 said:
I've read it. Rattan singh bhangu was the Grandson of Mehtab Singh who along side Sukha Singh beheaded Massar ranger. Guess what..... Mehtab Singh & his grandson Rattan Singh Bhangu were jatts!
if I remember correctly the Singh's from Maja are not painted in a good light in Panth Prakash where as the jatts from Malva are highly praised
The majhail singhs according to panth parkash are the bravest of the brave, read about the brar jatts and majhail singhs. many references to their fierce fighting, showing true faith in guru khalsa.0
11 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:
There were a variety of groups, the Punj Pyare were from different castes ranging from Khatri to Jatt. Banda Singh Babadur was a Rajput, (note Rajputs and Khatris despite being the same caste don't have similar descent), if you go to the era of Baba Buddha he was blessed with Shastar Vidya before the Mughal-Sikh war and he was a Jatt. The Sodhis who were related to the Guru who fought for Sikhi under Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Hargobind were Khatri. It was mostly Khatris and Jatts that fought during the Gurus time, but the Khatris were basically being lazy when they were Hindus, cause it was their original job to protect India, so after the Sikh religion was made, they started doing stuff again.
Remember what Sri Panth parkash says about those brar jatts who were paid salary & who abobdoned the guru... and majhail singhs never abandoning guruji. also a lot of majbe singhs fought for the khalsa and gave shaheedi, lot of the akali nihangs were" low castes". it was down to kalgidar giving us the spirit to give an answer back rather than to take a slap and not get up.0
4 hours ago, Berserk said:
Not sure why you are bringing up Dasam Granth not being Bani, when I do believe Dasam Granth is. That was pointless to mention.
You claim to believe in dasam bani yet you call shastar puja evil and wrong? & those who do will go to hell? fool.0
1 hour ago, Cisco_Singh said:
Uneducated Singh Sabhia type "hippy Sikhs" have this sort of mentality. Thankfully we have the Nihang Dal's, Gurus Ladli Fauj to keep Puratan Khalsa traditions alive. Read below and educate yourselves...
You do realise when we go to get dharshan we not only now down to satguru ji but also the shastar in parkash in front? shastar naam mala, ayudh bidiya is all shastar puja. people like you are seriously whitewashing core values. Dasam granth not being bani, shastar puja is anti sikhi...what next will these nindaks come out with?On 07/12/2016 at 3:13 PM,Berserk said:
To me, no Gursikh would ever believe in this devilish "Shastar puja" act. Say what you like but the only thing waiting for these people is hell."0
3 hours ago, Akalifauj said:
You with your little knowledge may treat panth parkash and gur sobha as gospel, but Gursikhs don't. Caveman is having a heart attack and unable to control his verbal diarrhea. You should advice your associate to keep his cool and not make a fool out of himself.
Why isn't panth parkash and gur sobha held in high esteem by you? because it doesn't fit in with your beliefs?* jhatka eating, opium sukha drinking, violent looters.0
7 hours ago, kcmidlands said:
You can get them from here, DGN Sounds tend record Samagams, the Kirtan your talking about was done by Qi-Rattan.
Thank you very much0
2 hours ago, Berserk said:
To me, no Gursikh would ever believe in this devilish act. Say what you like but the only thing waiting for these people is hell.
Please clarify who you are referring to?0
The program on Sunday was beautiful, amazing Kirtan and simran.
Does anyone have a link to dowoad the lady with the guitar doing simran? very peaceful2
9 hours ago, Akalifauj said:
You could not even come up with a coherent argument. All you did was swear.
Shastar need blood?? According to your ignorant beliefs. But not according to Sikhi. 50 years from now the new generations will be saying the Christmas tree in the gurdwara needs presents under it. Swear all you like. Just shows your ignorance.9 hours ago, Akalifauj said:
Shastar need blood?? According to your ignorant beliefs. But not according to Sikhi. Just shows your ignorance.
Or does Shastar need a tilak of coca cola or Dr pepper, fanta Pepsi? You are the ignorant one. not willing to have an open mind, slating anything which doesn't come in line with your mind set. what people need to realise is, you can't whitewash beliefs/practices which have been happening for 100s of years just because you don't agree with them.
They are putting blood on gurujis shastar in maharajs hazoori....does that make you angry?.
I bet you are the type of Sikh who goes around saying when a fight kicks off/jung/battle you will say gurbani and suddenly be able to defend yourself effectively. it doesn't work like that pal.0
4 hours ago, Akalifauj said:
Anointing weapons with animals blood has no meaning and is a false practice according to Sikhism. It's basically animal sacrifice and the Guru spoke against it.
What a stupid post. Please don't use your own stupid logic. shastar need blood. Go to hazoor sahi. and watch the jathedar put tilaks on guru jis shastar.
"Akalifauj" what a joke, more like fudufauj. tenu ki patha nindka.2
Don't shroom up...if you do want to try it and no one can change your mind, make sure you're with the right people(not alone) there's someone who HASN'T taken shrooms there with you. you're at home/someone's place you don't go outside.
Don't do dmt>you won't get any real stuff, you will get crap who know's what in it!. rather you shroom up than do other shite.
Shrooms depending on what kind you take will give you visuals of colours stuff like that, but thing is your perception of reality won't exist if that makes sense?...you start to think whatever you do can't harm you...it's all a dream, hence why someone who isn't taking anything should be there to make sure you're okay and you don;t do anything stupid.
I don't think its suitable for someone to shroom up for no apparent reason other than to do drugs, if you have a bad trip it could screw you up pretty bad and you may never get over it...similar to LSD.
so, you've been warned.
But all honestly I really don't think you should try anything like that, what's the need? what will it achieve? psychedelic drugs are a big risk, if you're willing to take the risk even knowing you may have a bad trip, you may see something which may freak you out and you still want to try it? no no!
You need to be productive with your life, get a job, keep occupied turning to psychedelic drugs isn't the answer.
I know many friends who have shroomed up, taken LSD, coke heads, pill poppers, you know one thing they have in common? they can't wait for the next hit...it's not worth it believe me.0
2. Have I really been disowned by Nihang groups in India?
I recently came across a letter published on the internet alleging mischief on my part and purporting to be signed by various heads of Nihang groups to which I am affiliated by tradition.
Alerted by the absence of letterheads or dates, and personally having met several of the supposed signatories within the past year, I contacted them. They assured me that the letter was a forgery and that the individuals involved in producing this fake document had been identified.
In fact, I was told that if they were ever spotted in any Nihang encampment in India in the future, they would be dealt with harshly, using the traditional form of punishment meted out to a slanderer. I will be visiting the Nihang leaders in person later this year on a research trip and will follow up on these discussions.
It appears that the motive of these character assassins is to diminish my standing and influence in the community. Why?
It is alleged that one of their underlying goals is to perpetrate what a wise old man once called ‘salvation fraud’, i.e. they wish to promote themselves as devout Nihangs for the purpose of establishing themselves as ‘gurus’ in the West amongst the unsuspecting Europeans. From this position of authority they would then be able to fully exploit and (mis)lead the trusting flock, misappropriating any funds received for their personal gain and generally establish themselves to pursue their dubious agendas of self aggrandisement.
It would appear that they see me as an obstacle in the pursuit of their strategy, because the history, philosophy and traditions I present through my books, websites and SV akharas help empower innocent people to see through such shallow characters and protect themselves from their despicable behaviour.
Dhadrianwale speaking about it all right now on sangat tv0
To Dal Khalsa UK, I always thought you were a bunch of *edit* and never took notice of you guys but ''PEDHO BABA AND HIS BAND HOMO AND KIDIFIDLERS.CHILD SACRIFICE AND FEMALE FETACIDE.THIS IS SANT SAMAJ '' you have taken it to an all time low.1
ਪਾਹੁਲ ਖੰਡੇ ਕੇਰ ਛਜੱਈਏ । ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਬਿਦ੍ਯਾ ਸਬੈ ਸਿਖੱਈਏ ।
Take Khandey Di Pahul and all should learn Shastar Bidiya [the science of arms].
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਕੀ ਫਤੇ ਗਜੱਈਏ । ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਤਨ ਸਜਵੱਈਏ ॥੪੦॥
Chant Vahiguru Ki Fateh [The victory is the Lords], and adorn yourself with weapons and clothes.
ਸਿਖ੍ਯਾ ਜੰਗ ਕਰਨ ਕੀ ਦੱਈਏ । ਸਿੰਘ ਨਾਮ ਇਨਿ ਕੇ ਰਖਵੱਈਏ ।
Give the teachings of how to wage war, in this way you shall retain the name Singh.
ਗਾਥ ਬੀਰ ਰਸ ਸੀ ਸੁਨਵੱਈਏ ।
Listen to the stories which inspire 'Bir Ras' [warrior spirit].
[Naveen Panth Prakash, pg. 1571, Vol. 3]2
Last I heard of Nanak Dev Singh was that he has now taken up SV under Niddar Singh and teaches basic SV in an akhara based in Germany. A lot of UK based Gatka Ustads learned from Nanak Dev Singh.
Hanji, but he does not teach SV he has learned aspects though. Gurdev went there last year or the year before to do a camp for him and the students.0
Baba Ram Singh, former Jathedar of Akali Phoola Singh Burj under Budha Dal Jathedar Akali Baba Sahib Singh discusses Shastarvidiya with Nidar Singh Nihang. Audio recorded in September 1998.0
How great it is to see you on here.0
Sakhi Nihang Bhujangi Gurbax Singh Shaheed
Ek – Oankar Sri Vaheguroo Ji Ki Fateh
With your grace || May the timeless and deathless be my protector
The Sakhi of Nihang Bhujangi Gurbax Singh Ji Shaheed
Now listen to the story of Gurbax Singh Nihang beloved Sikhs of the Guru. At the auspicious place of Sri Harimandir Sahib, Baba Gurbax Singh fought with the Giljeh and attained great matrydom to stop the desecration that was taking place. This Bhujangi (Cobras) [title given to the highest accomplished warriors] was a Farladhari Nihang Singh and was a great brave fighter. Adoring Blue Bana [battle Dress/Uniform] Baba Gurbax Singh was adherent follower of the great code of conduct set down by the Satguru. Awaking in the morning he would perform his daily activities, bathing, tying his battle turban, reciting his daily liturgy prayers and consuming Shaheedi Degh [Protein drink made of almonds, sugar, water, and cannabis]. Baba Gurbax Singh then carries out his five abulations and brushes his teeth [Daatan]. When there is one and a quater pehars left of the night they tie their Dumalla and recite the Gurus sacred bani alongside.
Worshipping weapons of all steel, Baba Gurbax Singh salutes his sword in his hand. In his neck he wears a rosary of iron, even his comb, bracelets and small rosary is made out of iron. On his head he wears a Chakar [quoit] and Tora [steel mesh wire to bind the battle turban]. In his Kamarkasa he carries a iron Salotar [fighting stick], his armour and gauntlets are also made of iron. His Kashera is one and a quarter Gaj in length. On his body he wears chainmail made out of steel to protect his body from weapons. Following this daily routine, Baba Gurbax Singh Nihang would present himself before the Akaal Bunga. Those are called Nihangs who do not differentiate between pain and happiness, that person who does not feel pain and happiness, he who remains in an essence of stability, coloured in the love of Vaheguroo he remains the same. Due to the senses of the body pain and pleasure experienced, he who does not accept these senses is called a Bidhehi [the one without a body]
Baba Gurbax Singh was a great man of restraint, a celebate and a meditated upon the Naam, he was a practiser of charity, whoever came and asked from him, he provided for them. On the other side, he was an achieved warrior who would rush forward to fight against the enemy. If a Sirdar or a Misldaar came to Baba Gurbax Singh, he would remain intoxicated in the name of the Lord. Regardless of who came and went, he never showed no attachment or greed towards anyone. He required no support from anyone, this is how Nihang Singhs are. Whoever came and went, what was his need to give anyone salutations. Nihang Singhs remain intoxicated in the Gurus Shabad and have care for anyone else.
Wherever a battle was taking place in the name of Dharam, he would make his way there. There was no fear within his mind, and he never turned away from fighting. Wherever armies descended upon the Khalsa Panth, Baba Gurbax Singh would arrive there and open his body up to attack. Wherever there was a place of Dharam Yudh, a fight in the name of righteousness, Baba Gurbax Singh would take hold of the Khalsa Battle Standard and he himself would be on the frontline. Alongside the Battle Drums would be beating, and Baba Gurbax Singh would be the first to engage in war.That Bhai Mani Singh who was cut to pieces, from that same Bhai Mani Singh Baba Gurbax Singh had taken Amrit [initiation] from in Amritsar.
By the town of Khemkaran, there was a village named Leel in the Majha area where Baba Gurbax Singh came from. Wherever the encampments of the Khalsa Panth went, Baba Gurbax Singh went with them, wherever the Battle Standards of the Khalsa were dug, Baba Gurbax Singh would take his position there. Opposite Sri Darbar Sahib Amritsar, Baba Gurbax Singh would sit infront of the Akaal Bunga. Having no regard for his life he would sit and chant “Akaal Akaal Sat Sri Akaal!”. Bhai Rattan Singh says, Khalsa Ji listen to the great feats of Baba Gurbax Singh, in the way that he lost his head and destroyed the Turks. Many times the Turks had come and fought with him, but when he achieved martyrdom was the time when Ahmed Shah Abdali had come from Kabul with hoards of warriors.
There was a Cheif of the name Sooraj Mal Jaat, he had ransacked and conquered Agra. He had two fast horses named Jora and Bhora, which he had stolen from Agra. He had stolen all the treasury in Agra, and even the treasures which were hidden underground. The Moguls were kings in Agra, residing in fortresses and had gathered treasures which had no end. Najeeb Khan Ruhela was the ruler of Dehli of that time and Ahmed Shah Abdali would come to help him if required. Sooraj Mal Jaat had come had fought against Najeeb Khan Ruhela and somehow Sooraj Mal died within this battle. His son Jwahar Mal had collected an army together in order to avenge his fathers death. Jwahar Mal had enrolled Marathas, Raajputs, Europeans, and Jaats within his army and surrounded the whole of Dehli. Najeeb Khan Ruhela was within his fortress, on seeing the agitation from all four directions he came into much distress, coming out had become difficult for him. Naveej Khan send a message to Ahmed Shah Abdali stating that if he helped him against Jawahar Mal Jaat he would give him 300 Crore rupees. In order to him him, Ahmed Shah Abdali came with great force.
When they heard news of the coming of Ahmed Shah Abdali, and they heard that he had stepped foot in Punjab again, they realised that he must have been called by Najeeb Khan. Those Singhs who were Kings, for the sake of their families they tried to flee. Those who ran off to the mountains and thought they could hide, were robbed and plundered by the mountain thieves. Those who tried to hide within the banks of rivers and streams, were robbed also and their families were eaten by tigers. Those Singhs who fled to the Majha area with faith that they would be safe, were informed on and taken as prisoners by the Giljeh. There were also the Singhs who were once warriors, whenever they felt they would attack and kill the enemy, they had now become family men, wherever these Singhs went they came under great pain. Those Singhs who left for the jungles in Malva, they had mixed in with strangers.
The Vaheer [Army] lived within Amritsar, alongside Baba Gurbax Singh there were many other Singhs, when they heard of the plight of the Sikhs they contemplated within their mind. There was a great Divaan taking place and Rehras Sahib was being read. From the side of the Akaal Bunga, Baba Gurbax Singh looked towards the mountains, they set out a Gurmatta [Collective Decision] and decided that the Vaheer will set off towards the Malva area. There were many Bihangam Singhs who were told to stay at Sri Amritsar, but the rest were given an directive by Baba Gurbax Singh “Is there any such Singh in his Panth, who will fight and give his head, so that he may stand in the court of the Lord and make his plea, this plea will surely be heard by the Lord. He must be a Singh of great restraint, valour and meditates upon the name of Vaheguroo. He must be a follow of the Rehit
and must be a follower of truth and true speech. For the sake of protection, that person who dies for the sake of Sarbat Khalsa and gives his body in sacrifice, like Bhai Taru Singh, he will be the one who will bring destruction upon the Turks. [/color]
[color=#000000]Hearing the words of Baba Gurbax Singh Nihang the Singhs responded thus “Is there any such Singh as worthy as yourself who has achieved such profit from your actions and austerities, there is no one like yourself within the Panth, no such power is within anyone else that they are able to leave their body and reach the abode of the Lord to make such a plea” Hearing the words of the fellow Singhs, Baba Gurbax Singh joined his hands together, lowered his head and accepted their words. Joining his hands together, Baba Gurbax Singh tied a Gani [string] around their wrist from the Singhs, that he was going to attain martyrdom and leaving to wed death.[/color]
[color=#000000]The Nihang Singh [baba Gurbax Singh] then uttered to the Khalsa “is there such a Singh in the Panth who is a beloved of the Guru, who will join me and accompany me to the true abode of the Lord. When someone leaves for his wedding, he has alongside him his Sarbala [best Man].” Hearing the words of Baba Gurbax Singh some Singhs stood up and approached him, they paid their salutations and touched his feet. The Singhs then spoke “We accept your words and seek your permission, we are ready to be your Sarbalas.” Seeing this, the other Singhs got up and were also ready to join them.[/color]
[color=#000000]The Nihang Singh then said to the Singhs “Those who go to marry death, they will receive the fruits of their sacrifice in their next life, we will lose our heads and within Dharam Yudh [War of Righteousness ] we will become married. When we attain martyrdom, the Satguru will bestow great kingdoms upon us, those Singhs who fight alongside us and destroy the enemy will become greater then Kings and rule the world. Within Chandi Astotar, the Satguru has written themselves that the Khanda, Tegha, and Weapon form of the Lord, that person who facing the enemy in battle and sacrifices his head to you, is reborn as a King and attains power of Kingship. In the way that the True Guru has spoken, in that it will be true.” In this way Baba Gurbax Singh spoke to the Khalsa[/color]
[color=#000000]By this time, Ahmed Shah Abdali had reached Lahore, and he wished to make his way towards Dehli. He had heard that there was a great gathering of Khalsa in Amritsar, he made his mind up that on the way to Dehli he will go to Amritsar and kill many Singhs within his attack. Hearing the news that Ahmed Shah Abdali was coming, the ones with no courage, and weak hearts had fled in fear. Baba Gurbax Singh sent them off himself saying “Those who wish to leave now may leave, as after this point I will not let anyone leave” Those Bhujangi Jangi Yodheh Farlewale Nihang Singhs [Experienced Warriors who carried the battle standard of the Khalsa upon their Turbans] stood alongside the Guru. To attain martyrdom alongside Baba Gurbax Singh, there was only a few other Singhs left. In the same way wedding guests wear new clothes, the Singhs became ready, some were wearing Blue Bana [battle Uniform], some White and some Orange, they all came together and gathered infront of the Akaal Bunga. [b][u]The Singhs drank Shaheedi Degh and made themselves ready for battle. There were some Singhs who took opium, taking their doses they also became ready. [/u][/b][/color]
[color=#000000]Hearing that Ahmed Shah Abdali was coming, in anticipation they stood on the balls of their feet to look into the distance. For this reason they were about to attain martyrdom, the whole world will be shown that they have destroyed Ahmed Shah Abdali. Going into the abode of the Lord they will stop his invasion of Hindustan. Putting their weapons on they prepared their battle dress. Tying on their weapons into their Kamarkaseh [Weapons belts] the Singhs became ready. Focussing on the feet of Guru Nanak, they began reading scriptures out of the Guru Granth Sahib[/color]
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Baba Ram Singh, former Jathedar of Akali Phoola Singh Burj under Budha Dal Jathedar Akali Baba Sahib Singh discusses Shastarvidiya with Nidar Singh Nihang. Audio recorded in September 1998.0
Shaheedi - Are there times when it is not worth it?
in WHAT'S HAPPENING?