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Sorry mate.

My mistake, it was CHARITROPAKHYAN and not CHANDI CHARITAR that wasnt included. Sorry again. I edited tht post.

Well actually SGPC has banned Charitropakhyan/Tria Chariter...

"The S.G.P.C. has called it a Puranic myth and not work of the Tenth Guru.."

"The SGPC, vide its letter no. 36672 dated 3. 8. 1972, has declared to be a composition from Hindu mythology and not by the Tenth Master, could have been combined with sacred gurbani by any Sikh"

These works are attributed to Dasam Patshah:

1. Dasam Granth

2. Sarbloh Granth

3. Puranmasi Katha

4. Mukt Marg Granth

5. Prem Sumarag Granth

6. Vidya Sagar Granth (never found after it was drown in river Sirsa)

Now these works are attributed to guru Ji.

The first 2 are quite known... But the other 3? What are the sangats view about this? And also Kam1825, you once said in a topic you would scan and post Puranmasi Katha... Please do it. It would be amazing seva and i would be thankfull to you.

Wasnt Prem Sumarag Granth written somewhere near the 1800s? Is there any Brahmgyani Ji that said that Prem Sumarag was written by Guru ji?

And what is Mukt Marag Granth all about?

Sorry if i offended anyone, but this just seems TOO interesting.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

WJKK WJKF

Excellent

*bump*

Shastr,

I had asked the same question as u some time ago.

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=37811&hl=

So, from collecting info from various sources is that...

The standard version of 1428 pages, doesnt include Charitropakhyan (793 pages), and some others like Sahansharnama and Malkus ki vaar.

Inder Singh wrote this on that thread about the ?Bani? of Malkus Ki Vaar: I have a copy of this document with me.There are seven pages.It mentions Har ju hartmandir avange and also name nanak is there in concluding line.

So could you please tell a bit more about Malkus Ki Vaar, and if possible also of Sahansharnama...

Thanks Inder Singh...

Can we also view the Hazuri Bir?

Mr. Inder Singh. Can you please post pics of both the birs from 1697/1698? It would be a great seva...

I've seen many Goreh wearing Karas... That too is sinister, isnt it? Many of them visited Darbar Sahib and bhought kara (kareh) there and wear them as a souvenire.. Is it wrong?

I know many Hindus, Muslims, Christians in Punjab wear Karas... Thats normal.. Thats Sikh influence in the other religions of Punjab. In Indian Punjab you will easily spot a muslim saying Sat Sri Akal instead of their traditional Salam-o-Alaikum etc

And in Pakistan, you will find that many Sikhs (and Hindus) use Salam-o-Alaikum instead of Sat Sri Akal. And also many Hindus in Pakistan eat beef, but don't eat pork.

But the Muslims wearing Kareh to convert Sikhnis (not Singhnis, because a Singhni won't convert... She will die, but not convert to another religion) are bad... From what I heard many Pakistani Muslims wear Karas... But since there are some 40,000 Pakistani Sikhs in UK, it could be that a Pakistani is wearing Kara, and he is Sikh.. Then he has the right to. But the Muslim Pakistanis/Punjabi Hindus wearing Karas is bad.

All that i know is that Lakhi Jungle is a jungle with one LAKH (100,000) trees, hence LAKHi Jungle. During the times of the Mughals, when Sikhs were persecuted, massacred and what not, many/most Sikhs hid in the Lakhi Jungle.

Another Sakhi I heard about is that Guru Nanak Dev ji recited one lakh paths of Japji Sahib in the Jungle, and therefore it became to be known as Lakhi Jungle.

But as i aint some Gyani, I can't tell you the meaning of Lakhi Jungle in that tukk or explain that tukk.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

now if you say that you were jus talking about the city in itself and not sri harmadir saheb....then you shouldn't have written holy city either.

The city is holy because of Sri akal Takht and other (historical) Gurdwaras presence..

gone

Daas made a better readable of the above...

1.Do ardaas upon waking up in the mornings and ask for the boon of righteous actions

2. When adhering to the call of nature excercise hygene and cleanliness, and upon entering a city always procure water for such purposes

3. Cleanse your face with water (upon waking)

4. Bathe in cold water

5. When removing your kachera, your head and shoulders should be covered, and one leg should remain in the old pair as you transfer the opposite leg into the new pair 6.When tying your turban you must sit in the lotus posture (asan), your turban and kachera should never touch, and your turban should never be lifted off like a topi but should be properly untied

7.Upon waking in the morning recite Waheguru mantra and Mool Mantra while uniting surat and shabd through breath control

8. In the morning one must recite gurmantra, mool mantra and then recite or listen to the 5 banis, and Kirtan Sohila should be recited before going to sleep

9. When bathing the hair can be washed with yogurt

10. When drying the hair keep a small patka on

11. When drying the hair it must not be laid back, but should be combed to the sides with a blur keski

12. The dead hairs caught in your comb must not be thrown underfoot but should be cremated

13. Kachera should not be slung over the shoulder as it could come into contact with your beard and hair which is prohibited

14.The beard should not be dyed black

15. One should dress in blue

16. Worship the three Granths

17. Always depend on Akal and repeat his mantra

18. The Five Beloveds must give baptism to the Singhs

19. Do not abbreviate Singhs names into nicknames

20. Consider the five k's as your limbs

21. You must not take off the 5 k's when bathing

22. Always keep 2 combs and never use a broken comb

23. One cannot enter Guru Darbar without bathing instead he can only namaska from outside, nor can one enter with socks on

24. Stay away from the four kurehits

25. Keep on a blue keski at all times

26. Regard the sword as your isht and never be without it

27. Wear a dastaar and never a topi

28. Bathe daily

29. Always recite gurmantra and the 5 Banis

30. Always share with others,

31. Give 10% to the guru,

32. Do satsang and seva,

33. Do everything in accordance to gurmat

34. Always obey the hukam of SGGSji

35. Always speak the truth and attain virtuous qualities such as contentment,

36. Don't do nindaya

37. Never cut any hair,

38. Do not use drugs,

39. Do not do Halal custom

40. Never take the honor of a women or adulerate

41. ? (could not translate)

42.Do not steal or gamble

43. Restrain from intoxicants as much as possible

44. Don't go on Hindu pilgramiges or worship idols

45. Always be armed,

46.Any action should begin with ardaas to God, and Waheguru mantra is to be repeated with every breath whether, walking, standing, he is to always be thanked

47. After heeding the call of nature bathe five times

48.Gurbani should be kept in a ramalla, stored in a high place,

49. Never fight with Sikhs, always help the poor,

50. Don't take or use your sister's money

51. Don't eat with non-amritdharis

52. Always be truthful

53. Learn gurumukhi, remember gurbani and teach young people our history

54. One should not flatulate in the presence of Guru Granth Sahib

55. Do seva, bhakti,simran remain content and do righteous actions,

56.Never beg anything from anyone,

57.Never disgrace the Khalsa army

58. Always greet Singhs with Wahiguru ji ka Khalsa, Wahiguru ji ki Fateh

59.From birth until death keep gurmat in mind and act accordingly

60.Come to Budha Dal and register as a full-fledged member

61. Celebrate Holla Mohalla at Anandpur Sahib

62. Celebrate Sahibzadey's Memorial at Chamkaur Sahib

63. Celebrate Mata Gujri Anniversary at Fatehgarh Sahib

64. Celebrate fullmoon, Guru Nanak's Birthday pur Lodhi, Kapurthala

65. Magi, Sri Mukhtsar Sahib

66. Basant pachmi, Patiala

67. Do not get piercings

Well 1st question is not mine.. But a friend once asked me.. And i just couldnt answer him..

So criminals, rapists, etc can still go in the holy city of Amritsar?

If i am not mistaken Bhai Rama SIngh ji has stated something like bad persons wont be allowed in Amritsar or something... Itz long time ago i read it... But i know.. This mentality exists where some/many Sikhs want to make Amritsar the second Mecca (but for Sikhs)...

But 2nd question is mine..

Point 2 is the ideal but in reality will be impossible to monitor.

Nothing is impossible for a Sikh, my friend...

1) Should non-Sikhs be banned for entering the holy city of Amritsar?

2) Should alcohol and tobacco be banned in the city of Amritsar?

Tell in 1 word, what bhought u into Sikhi... Or atleast got u interested it into Sikhi..

Me: Khalistan

Obviously jealous Hindus did it...

Above argument by user:masra di dahl doesnt make sense.

Khalistan is going to include the present-day states of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal, Jammu, Punjabi speaking areas of Rajasthan, UP, Uttaranchal etc

So in Khalistan there will be a state Punjab, which will have its virsa, PUNJABI VIRSA...

Well i think.. Before concentrating on ur outer appearence... Concentrate on ur inner appearance.

Try to control 5 evils.

Do some naam simran jaap.

Once after a while, when u have been (allmost) succesfull, it will be easier to keep ur outer appearence...

<banned word filter activated> bandar jeha

kithe kara te kithe bottle opener

Is asking gotra wrong?

I like gotras

Its a nice way to see ancestry... And know about our previous history/heritage etc

I believe in gotras.. But just in the western sense... U know... like only in gotras but not like oonch neech

Old article:

Ishmeet Singh: Young Celebrity Among the Sikhs

Naureen Kaur

Born and raised in America, I am a 13-year old young girl. I love watching Voice of India and looked forward to the results. As a result I quickly found out that two Sikhs were in the competition and that made me enthusiastic.

One was Ishmeet Singh, the other was Arshpreet Kaur. I would watch every show, and when both these Sikhs made it to the top 12, I couldn’t believe it. But in the next round, Arshpreet Kaur under peer pressure cut her hair short. Frankly, I felt very disappointed at her action, and was even more scared if Ishmeet might follow her example.

I did as much research on Ishmeet and probably learned more about him than his fellow contestants. I found out that Ishmeet is an 18 year old boy from Ludhiana and suffered from stage fear in his childhood. The fear was overcome after he sang in front of a huge crowd in the “Delhi Audition of Star Voice of India.” Despite getting hate mails and rude comments he believed in himself and didn’t cut his hair. When Ishmeet made it to the finals, I was overjoyed and sent the news to all my friends. I also, a couple of times, sent an SMS for him.

Waiting for the final result was an extraordinary event for me. The incredibly famous singer Lata Mangeshkar announced the results and proclaimed the winner as: ISHMEET SINGH! I was overjoyed to see a Sikh win the 1st Voice of India contest. I decided that no matter what, I was going to meet Ishmeet Singh.

I took a trip to India and covered the whole south of India during that trip. I was able to go to film city in Mumbai and spent two days there and saw many shootings in progress and met many India movie stars and took autographs. I still had one wish to fulfill and that was to meet Ishmeet, the idol of Punjab and the first Voice of India winner. With Waheguru’s grace, my wish was fulfilled.

Two hours before my return trip back to USA, I got the chance to visit him. This talented Sikh turned out to be very humble, polite, and caring. His idea on winning rested in the ultimate sense to have faith in Waheguru wholeheartedly. He is an idol to many young Sikhs all around the world and he can inspire and motivate young Sikh men and women to succeed in life without compromising their values and traditions under any pressure whatsoever. While interviewing him, he very clearly said to me that in future he would do everything in his power to help Sikh youth with talent to step out of the shadow. His soon to be released first CD is a Shabad Keertan CD which he completed the day after I left India. I wish him all the best in his future endeavors, and hope he will continue to reach the top and stay there for a long time.

All the best Ishmeet, and go for your goals!

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh!

Ishmeet Singh winner of of the popular Star TV reality show Voice of India 2007 died in Maldives on Tuesday evening.

He drowned in the swiming pool of his hotel Chaaya Island Dhonveli in Maldives.

Ishmeet arrived at Male’ this morning, to perform in the Star Voice of Maldives, shortly to be held on 1st August.

“It is very unfortunate and I came from Gajendra Singh about this incident. I am absolutely shocked,” said the singer Shaan.

Ishmeet Singh, an 18 year old boy from Ludhiyana used to suffer from stage fear in his childhood. The fear was overcome after he sang in front of a huge crowd in the Delhi Audition of Star Voice of India.

He is a true fan of Shaan and considers him as his idol. He also admires A. R. Rehman and his dream is to sing for him.

He was among the top 2 finalists on Star Voice of India and was crowned the winner on November 24, 2007. He was also one of the contestants of Jo Jeeta Wohi Superstar, a singing competition on Star Plus channel and represented the Champions team. He was eliminated on June 20, 2008.

Star Voice of India was an Indian Television singing competition that premiered on 18 May 2007 and ended on 24 November 2007. It was the first Indian singing competition produced by STAR Plus. The show was directed by Gajendra Singh, creator of the famous Sa Re Ga Ma Pa series and also featured judges that were on the Sa Re Ga Ma Pa series, Aadesh Srivastav, Abhijeet Bhattacharya, Alka Yagnik, Lalit Pandit and Jatin Pandit. Shaan hosted SVOI and has left Sa Re Ga Ma Pa.

This Sikh singer was just 19 ....

He drowned in the maldives....

He was the winner of Amul Star Voice of India....

May His Soul Rest In Peace.

Thats ok

finally people will stop screaming about this :D