Inder Singh

This is how sri waheguru ji ki fateh appears in dasam granth

ਸ੍ਰੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਹ ॥

स्री वाहिगुरू जी की फ़तह ॥

The Lord is One and the victory is of the Lord.

Full salutation wheguru ji ka khalsa, whaeguru ji ki fateh, was coined at the time of initiation of khalsa.

RehitNama of Bhai Nand Lal Singh Ji Very Lovingly Share the Message of Guru Gobind Singh Ji!!!!! Including The Roop of Guru Sahib Which Includes Granth Ji!!!!! It is TOO beautiful for Me to Even Try to Share the Veechars!!!!![/size][/font]

True, all outside of Guru Granth Sahib Ji, of course.

BHforce ji

Gursikhs like you are required to rebut these gurnindaks.

They have no base. All empty talk.

Keep up and stay in charhdi kala

Jeonwala is a joker whose silly arguments may carry some weight if any with uneducated sikhs.

I was watching his video part 3 of 6 and it was nothing but trash. All concocted tales that have nothing

to do with Dasam granth.

Most probably he is the one who was advisor of Ragi darshan on charitra 21,22 and 23. Darshan ragi

is saying the same thing Jeonwala was saying.

In My Opinion,

Also BhForce Ji,

RehitNama of Bhai Nand Lal Singh Ji Very Lovingly Share the Message of Guru Gobind Singh Ji!!!!! Including The Roop of Guru Sahib Which Includes Granth Ji!!!!! It is TOO beautiful for Me to Even Try to Share the Veechars!!!!!

Chardi Kala!!!

dasam Granth compositions are mentioned in all rehatnamas, and otehr sikh literature of that time. That is another proof these dummies do not know.

Gupt ji

I asked you a question.You did not answer it .

I repeat it

What do you understand by shabad guru?

The answer from me, Bloom, and others is: seena-baseena tradition or verbal command. Yet once you admit something outside of Guru Granth Sahib, the "Keval Granth" doctrine of missionaries is destroyed

Missionaries not only dispute Dasam bani they also misinterpret SGGS ji. They do not believe in Naam Simran. the very essence of sikhism.

THus they deny mystical essence of sikhism.They are the biggets destroyers of sikhism. Need of the hour is to counter these people, mend their

thought process.

Joginder is an <banned word filter activated>. He doesn't make any sense and is a big time Naastik.

He was the main man of kala afghanas sect. Inder Ghagha , missionaries , Singh sabha canada are in bed with him

Now his anti sikh credentials are proved now you do not want to discuss about him. But still he is the main leader of this camp.

Ik Oankar Sri Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh is not equal to Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh. Show me FULL fateh in Dasam Granth.

You have been told that it was verbal salutation given by tenth master at time of creation of khalsa.dasam Granth had been written earlier of this. Part of it comes from

Dasam granth.

Since you do not believe in DG and only believe in SGGS ji, i ask you to show it in SGGS .

Moreover why those people use it who do not believe in DG.Is it not hypocrisy?

(No forum rule on Sarbloh Granth, means we can discuss it, right?) Sarbloh Granth was written after creation of Khalsa and mentions GurGaddi to Guru Granth Sahib... Then why does the writer use Shah Gobind or Das Gobind? Why not Gobind Singh, in case Guru Ji didn't want to use Nanak...

Guru Gobind singh was Guru of sikhs just like other Gurus.

He can use any name whatever he likes to use. No ifs and buts.

The problem with these kala afghanis is they do not like Guru gobind singh ji but have

not the courage yet to say openly.

Why do you say the fateg? It is not written in Dasam Granth either.

Fateh is there at the start of every composition of Dasam Granth sahib.Read it before making statements.

Thanks for your input. But didn't Guru Ji say; Pothi Parmeshwar Ka Thaan?

Writing of Gurus whether in SGGs or not is pothi

Once again, this is a reminder that Sikhsangat.com is 100% PRO-Dasam Granth. Any posts that insult/defame Kalgidhar Patshah's Bani will NOT be tolerated.

Very well said. This is the appropriate reply for these unsikh characters.They are weeds and need to be removed from panth.

They write singh with their name.Is it found in SGGS ji.

Not only these kala afghana chelas write bad about dasam granth they also say

1) Their only Guru is Guru Nanak dev ji. They disown other nine Gurus

2) Thye do not believe that Guru Arjan dev ji compiled SGGS ji.

May i ask with what face they say that they are believers in SGGS Ji.

Read below

http://www.panthic.org/articles/5169

SELF-STYLED KHALISTANI HERETIC CONTINUES TO SPEW KALA-AFGHANI VENOM

PANTHIC.ORG

Published on Novembe

r 6, 2009

TORONTO, CANADA - The self-styled Khalistani and Kala-Afghani protégé, Harjinder Singh Dilgeer, has again become the center of controversy due to his anti-Panthic tirades on various Punjabi radio talk-shows, in which he has repeatedly attacked the authority of Sri Akal Takht Sahib, and the legitimacy of Nitnem and Amrit Sanchar Banis.

Dilgeer was invited to Canada to speak at a 1984 related function organized at the 'Sikh Lehar Center" by the pro-Kala Afghani heretic lobby in Toronto. Before the weekend function, Dilgeer went on various Punjabi radio talk-show programs in which he ridiculed the authority of Sri Akal Takht Sahib and spewed venomous statements against the sacred Bani of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

Dilgeer addressing other heretics at the Kala-Afghani Sikh Lehr Center

Following are some extracts of Dilgeer's interview on Radio Hamsafar which aired on October, 26th of 2009 :

Dilgeer attempts to belittle the authority of Sri Akal Takht's HukamNamas, and alleges that anyone who obeys the order of Sri Akal Takht's HukamNamas is breaking away from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji

(click to listen)

Note: Contrary to his current stand, Dilgeer in his 'Sikh Reference Book' (1997) states that "The Hukamnama of Akal Takht Sahib is final and binding for each and every Sikh. None dare defy it."

Dilgeer states that 1402 pages of Sri Dasam Granth is 'gand-mand' (filthy trash).

(click to listen)

Note: Dilgeer is stating that banis such as ਵਾਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ (which is part of the Sikh Ardaas), Shashtarnaamala, Zafarnama, and ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖਵਾਕ such as ਮਿਤ੍ਰ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਨੂੰ ਹਾਲ ਮੁਰੀਦਾਂ ਦਾ ਕਹਿਣਾ, ਰੇ ਮਨ ਐਸੋ ਕਰ ਸੰਨਿਆਸਾ , etc is all filthy-trash or anti-Gurmat content. Dilgeer also seems to makes a distinction between Swaiyya and Akal Ustat, and does not realize that the Swaiyya are actually part of the Akal Ustat.

Dilgeer claims that 90% of Dasam Granth is against the ideals in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and the rest of the 10% is anti-Gurmat. He then ridicules the bani of BachitarNatak.

(click to listen)

Note: Dilgeer in his 'Sikh Reference Book' (1997) states that "Bachitar Natak- is the name of the poetic drama written by Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ."

Now Dilgeer claims that Dasam Granth is not Guru Rachna, and only a translation.

(click to listen)

Note: Dilgeer in his 'Sikh Reference Book' (1997) clearly states that Dasam Granth was a rachna of Guru Gobind Singh, and even noting the dates when some of the contents were completed.

Dilgeer misquotes and misrepresents the Charritars 21,22, and 23 of Roop/Anoop Koer . He states that those who believe that Dasam Granth is Guru Sahib's Bani are ਪਾਪੀ (sinners) and ਮੁਜ਼ਰਮ (criminals).

(click to listen)

Note: Dilgeer, like Ragi Darshan Singh is intentionally misrepresenting the charittars of Roop Koer or Noop Koer. This charriters are not about Guru Gobind Singh Ji as these heretics claim, this is explained in detail by Sridar Kapur Singh IAS (National Professor of Sikhism) in his article (ਕਿੱਸਾ ਰੂਪ ਕੌਰ ਦਾ) :

http://www.panthic.org/articles/3873

Dilgeer claims that no scholar or leader has read Dasam Granth, if they have and state it is Guru Sahib's rachna, then they are a ਮੁਜ਼ਰਮ or ਦੋਖੀ of the Guru.

(click to listen)

Note: Dilgeers seems be implying all Gursikhs who believed in Sri Dasam Granth in the past were ਮੁਜ਼ਰਮ or ਦੋਖੀ, this includes GurSikhs such as Shaheed Bhai Mani Singh Ji, Kavi Santokh Singh Ji, Giani Gian Singh Ji, Giani Ditt Singh Ji, Akali Kaur Singh Ji, Bhai Randhir Singh Ji, Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha, Prof. Sahib Singh Ji, Giani Gurbachan Singh Ji Bhinderan, Prof. Piara Singh Padam, and countless other scholars and Shaheeds who lived and died believing in Sri Dasam Bani.

Dilgeer suggests that Sri Akal Takht HukamNamas are anti-Gurmat and should be ignored, and not followed. He openly states that all Sikhs should defy any order from Sri Akal Takht, and gives Spokesman editor as an example.

(click to listen)

Note: Dilgeer proudly boasts that his 'friend' Joginder Sahwney has defied the HukamNamas of Sri Akal Takht Sahib, and others should do the same. In a recent revelation, Surinder Kaur Nihal, an ex-admirer of the Spokesman editor, went public to disclose the warped views of the ex-communicated newspaper heretic. According to her public statements, Sahwney stated that:

'ਬਾਬੇ ਨਾਨਕ ਨੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਹੱਥੀਂ ਕਿਸੇ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਰਗੱਦੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਸੀ ਦਿੱਤੀ ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਉਹ ਅੱਗੇ ਗੱਦੀ ਚਲਾਉਣੀ ਹੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਸਨ ਚਾਹੁੰਦੇ ।'

"Guru Nanak did not bestow Gurgaddi to anyone, because He did not want to pass on the gaddi to anyone after him."

'ਮੈਂ ਬਾਬੇ ਨਾਨਕ ਤੋਂ ਸਿਵਾ ਬਾਕੀ ਨੌਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਨਹੀਂ ਮੰਨਦਾ (ਭਾਵ ਬਾਕੀ ਨੌ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾਨ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਹੀਂ ਮੰਨਦਾ) ।'

"Besides Baba Nanak, I do not believe in the rest of the nine (Gurus Sahibans)"

ਸ੍ਰ:ਜੋਗਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਅਤੇ ਨੌ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾਨਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਇੱਕ ਵੱਡਾ ਬੰਨ੍ਹ ਮਾਰਦਿਆਂ ਹੋਇਆ ਸਾਨੂੰ ਉਲਟਾ ਸਵਾਲ ਕੀਤਾ ਕਿ ਤੁਹਾਡੇ ਕੋਲ ਨੌਆਂ ਗੁਰੂਆਂ ਦੀ ਹੋਂਦ ਦਾ ਕੀ ਸਬੂਤ ਹੈ ।

"Creating a distinction between Guru Nanak Dev Sahib and the nine Guru Sahibans, Joginder Singh asked, "What proof do you have about the existence of the other nine Gurus?"

Ex-communicated heretic Joginder Sawhney

The first statements by Sahwney were made at the bhog ceremony of Dilgeer's mother at Sector 46 Gurdwara in Chandigarh on May 17th, 2009. The fact that not only did Dilgeer allow Sahwney to make such offending remarks at his mother's bhog, and never clarified or apologized for them proves he must also agree with Sahwney's twisted mindset. He continues to work for Sahwney and publishes his works in the daily column of the Spokesman.

Below are extracts of the public statements made by Surinder Kaur of Mohali:

Rangla Punjab Radio Interview:

Dilgeer raises doubts about the events of the 1699 Amrit-Sanchar Ceremony. Claims that Guru Gobind Singh Ji never took Pahul (Amrit) from the Panj Piyaray. Alleges if Guru Gobind Singh Ji took Amrit he would then have been a 'un-AmritDhari. He also questions the authenticity of verses of the Panthic Parvanat Ardas. States the source of ਤੇਗ ਬਹਾਦਰ ਸਿਮਰਿਐ ਘਰ ਨਉ ਨਿਧਿ ਆਵੈ ਧਾਇ ॥ ਸਭ ਥਾਈਂ ਹੋਇ ਸਹਾਇ ॥੧॥ ' in the Sikh Ardaas tuks are unknown.

(click to listen)

Note: It is common knowledge that the tuks written by Sri Dasam Patshah in his rachna ਵਾਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ ॥. To doubt it, is a direct attack on the foundations of Sikhi.

The above examples of blasphemy should leave no doubt that l ike loyal protégés, both Dilgeer and the Ragi are parroting the same ideology of the heretic Gurbakhsh Kala-Afghana, who was ex-communicated from the Sikh Panth in 2003.

In the footsteps of Kala-Afghana, both the Ragi and Dilgeer have openly questioned the validity of the sacred Banis of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji and the Nitnem Banis. While several Gurmattas and HukamaNamas have been issued from Sri Akal Takht Sahib strictly forbidding such criticism, this "shararteee ansar" (mischievous elements) as the Takht refers to them, continue to rake up the controversy on behest of others.

Like Ragi, Dilgeer also considered himself a Khalistani back in the 1980, and 1990s. He claims to have been part of the "inner circle" of the All India Sikh Students Federation, and the early days of the Dal Khalsa. Interestingly, both Ragi and Dilgeer, promoted the Bani of Sri Dasam Granth throughout those turbulent decades. Countless CDs and cassettes of the Ragi were released in which he recited hymns from Bachittar Natak, Krishanavtar, and Ramavtar. Now that era is over, they are looking for better pastures and opportunities to line their pockets.

Perhaps the agencies who planted these naastic-moles in the Panth two decades ago are finally reaping their rewards.

(Audio files courtesy of Radio Hamsafar and Rangla Punjab Radio)

Are you my personal assistant that you are asking me questions in what I believe and what not? Do you have a special diairy with my name on it to keep track of my beliefs?

Mind your own business, I have notified the moderators.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Because you make nonsensical statements that are self contradictory.

How do you believe in rehatnamas when you are believer of Guru Granth sahib only?

A stage has come when kala afghana sect has to clarify this.

You make no sense, I'll follow my Guru's instruction here; "MOORKHAN NAAL NA LUJHIAI". Thanks in advance for understanding.

Yes, he is my brother; all Sikhs are my brothers and sisters.

Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj !

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

When you do not have ability to understand it, typical statement is you do not make sense.

That akirtghan is no more part of panth.So follow him.What are you doing here.

You say waheguru ji ki khalsa

waheguru ji ki fateh

This is not written in Guru Granth sahib.

Where is sahib singh.This is what these liars do. make statement of lies and then disappear.

There are hardly one Gurudwara that stood for Darshu traitor and after he was decaled tankhaiya they kept quiet.

Jo Sikha Ko Puche Jaat Soh Sikh Nahi Mero Aad Jugaad

Those who ask a sikh's caste, they are not my sikh, they never were, and they never will be

From a Rehitnama.

Probably from the same where this is found;

"Jaha Taha Ka Ache Parsad, Mera Sikh Na Aad Jugaad ||"

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Do you believe in rehatnamas.I thought friends of khalsa fauj only believe in SGGS.

Bhai Sahib, can you please elaborate; details? proof? statements? I think it's really important that we understand and realize who is working against us from the inside but we need more than just accusations.

See their ads in spokesman.Do you need proof against spokesman?If so let me know.

Bhai Sahib, I said two because i assumed Jaswinder Singh and Gurjant Singh (both from Rajpura) were/are together.

Can you please maybe open another thread about Tat Khalsa? Because if they do, in fact, hold KA mentality and support Sarna that's disturbing; a lot of Singhs have a positive view of them after the Ludhiana Kaand.

See video again.Only one person told without being asked that he is from tat khalsa.

Nobody else told anything.This man was tutored.Do not make one to two.

This is a kala afghna outfit with no following. Their name aoppears only in anti panth newspaper

spokesman

i know that. peaceful protests have been tried in the past and failed. the latest peaceful protest was also very successful wasnt it?

In a way it was - it showed how the Indian Police treat Sikhs differently to others and raised awareness. Peaceful means aren't restricted to marching in the streets - I agree that doesn't achieve much unless you have unity and very large numbers (look up 'the million man march').

There are legal avenues, supporting good candidates in elections etc. India being what it is, chances are that those wouldn't be very successful either, but if all our leaders, jathas etc spoke with one voice, that would surely force the government to take notice. If not, then kuli chhuti....

And also good preaching with spreading of good education and bring employment to idle youth.Now education and employment are under central govt.

Preaching sikhi is work of parents and SGPC

Is the full Fateh (Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh) even written once in whole Dasam Granth?

Is 10 percent of above is written in SGGS ji? Waheguru ji ka khalsa is verbal instruction of tenth master. waheguru ji ki fateh is fully written in DG sahib

Why don't you call it Guru SAREER Sahib.. Why "Granth"? Granth means book and its pages are pannas. Shabad is Guru (Shabad Guru, Surat Dhun Chela), not the piece of paper.

What is shabad guru? Please explain.

Where it is written that SGGS ji is guru.We obey verbal command of tenth master.

Where in Dasam Granth is it instructed to keep 5 kakkaars?

Read asfotak kabit.It is written there.Do you know what is asfotak kabit?

What does this have to do with Dasam Granth?

kala afghna sect discards amrit vela.Their preachers say there is no amrit vela.

Do not bring DG here. You do not obey SGGS also.

Where in Dasam Granth does it ask to wear a Sarbloh Kara?

One becomes khalsa with banis if Dasam Granth.Kakkars is verbal command.

Since he does not believe in DG .he has no busniess to wear kara,kirpan and kesh.

Answer above questions.If you want to debate debate like a man. do not run away like a kala

afghnana thug.

4. He has been the FOREMOST person who stood against Congress during difficult times of eighties

He was a mole of anti sikh agencies among sikh. Read "Open secrets" written by MK Dhar indian Inteliigence Chief. Ragi's name is mentioned there.

We live in US and know what language this gurnindak ragi has used for our spiritual father. To divert attention of sikhs from this sarna with funds from gurudwara has launched a media compaign to cloud the real issue and lessen the impact. he has money to do this.

We have spirit given by our father Guru Gobind singh ji to combat their propaganda. We will succeed and expose their designs. Alraedy singhs from Canada has given advertisement in ajit to expose gurnindak ragi.That has impact and blunted the propaganda of RSS /comngress stooge sarna.

No dasam Granth No khalsa

No khalsa No sikhism.

That is the raeson enemies of sikhs are targeting Dasam granth through their agents.

Today seminar of dasam granth sahib, granth of khalsa, concluded in Amritsar. They have give to this jundli (gang) of akirtghan one month time for getting ready and have debate with them at Chandigarh.They will go to heretic houses with media coverage and ask them to come. These are scholras with doctorate study in DG.

They know the gang will not face them.But that is to show public at large their real face.

Hello,

Our Guru Granth Saahib?

1. It tells you not to block free speech.

2. Prof. Darshan Singh is a very learned person. Have you ever heard his discussions?

3. He is making the point that Dasam Granth should not be equated with our Guru.

4. He has been the FOREMOST person who stood against Congress during difficult times of eighties.

5. He does not like politics and use of religious bodies for politics.

6. Now let us come to dasam granth reference he made... He did some mistake by referring the King as Guru Gobind Singh. BUT....

Just imagine that next generation ... or say.. sixth next generation from now.... reads Dasam Granth which is by then treated as topmost granth of Sikhs.... those people would think that our gurus wrote about these matters instead of leading us on path of ruth?

7. One argument given is that it is written to make the point that all this( whatever is written in those stories0 is bad for us and these thing must be shunned.

Do you need to describe in details to tell your kids that you should not do this? It is like ... taking someone to brothel and then asking him /her not to come here!!!

8. By the way, why do we suddenly need dasam Granth after all these centuries... only after we started talking seriously about separate country( I am not supporting Bhidranwale here. His hijacking of the movement did more harm than good).

9. Darshan Singh is preaching about Supremacy of Guru Garnth Saahib. that message is lost in minor point of referring Guru Gobind Singh as the person in the story. His main point thta promoting and equating this granth with Guru Granth Saahib will kill your religion as your next generations will not like to associate with such a religion having such unauthenticated book as their primary source of inspiration.

10.Do not be a part of Hindu Politics.

Shankaracharya killed budhism and other religions by silent startegic process.

Now they are bringing in all people like Ashutosh, Sacha Sauda and others.

Re read these points... and decide

Balwinder

There is no free speech on scriputres. Ragi darshan is 10 class pass .All his life he did kirtan by reading from a paper in front of him.That does not make this akirtghan a scholar.

This uneducated fake professor does not know anything about DG. The issue here is not dasam Granth.Issue here is his slander of tenth master.This <banned word filter activated> was given one hour to show wherein dasam granth is written what he is telling but stooge of congress/RSs could not show anything.

See this ineterview before doing bukwas in his favour

http://www.patshahi10.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=316:controversial-ragi-prof-darshan-singh-talks-about-his-blasphemous-remarks-on-jus-punjabi-tv&catid=48:tv-interviews&Itemid=65

Not only he is cursing dasam pita but he is rejecting banis of Nitnem, amrit and sikh ardas.

See below. Shame on you for supporting this <banned word filter activated> and slanderer of Guru Gobind singh ji.

http://www.panthic.org/articles/5177

name='raj_karega_khalsa' date='12 December 2009 - 08:18 AM' timestamp='1260634683' post='442543']

At least two were from Shiromani Tat Khalsa, as well.

Here is another lie. My aim of putting the info was not to divide sikhs injured in this tragedy in any categories as some panth dokhis are trying desepratley for the last four days.The idea was to rebut malicious and false claims being put here that all singhs belonged to kala afghana cult.

It is also revealed by injured singhs how this kala afghani organization is trying to win over injured singhs to give statement that they belonged to this organization.Sarna made a trip for this purpose.One singh made a statement in the above video that he is from Tat khalsa. But somebody said at least two were from that organization.That is a outright lie.

Do not derive propaganda mileage out of this tragedy.There is warning already by administration.

I thought the meeting was going to be at Mehta (headquarters of a jatha of Damdami Taksal)

That meeting has taken place already.He is talking about meeting of heretic oganizations aligned with spokesman.

I contacted some sources and following is information about injured singhs

Belong to jatha of Baba dhadrianwala 2

Damdami taksal 2

From nearby villages 6

I did not want to put it as aim of a sikh is not to divide struggle in different factions.This has been done to expose malicious propaganda being done by some here.

Singh Sabha isn't as much of a surprise, on the following link you'll find the info of Dasmesh Darbar's statement.

http://www.ajitjalan...208/rashtri.php (might have to open with IE, firefox didn't show me the fonts properly)

I was told about Singh Sabha's stance by a friend, very believable. Someone has also told me that Khalsa Darbar in Vancouver is supporting the Tankhaiya.

We have gathered that only president of dashmesh darbar saudagar sandhu is in favour of ragi darshan.

Committee members are not.But they are dummies and have no eye on this guy's activites.

An effort is being made by some to expose this man.

Singh sabha Guurdwara is pro Darshan and pro missioanry.

Why are you finding it so hard to give credit where it's due? There were about 600 Singhs that were able to make it there, about half were from Baba Ranjit Singh's jatha. It's very dishonest to downplay his contribution, expecially with the leadership he showed at the crucial hour.

Stop hating on fellow Sikhs. Give respect to Baba Harnam Singh,Baba Ranjit Singh, Baba Daljit Singh, other Gurmukhs, Federations...and the Sikh Youth.

We know you were at the forefront of attacks on Baba Ranjit Singh in the previous weeks, so your comments are not surprising. Take a look at what you're doing Singh. Take a hard look at what you're contributing. Stop spreading hate against fellow Sikhs. It's time to unite against the outside forces and also the internal cancer. The anti-Dasam Granth types have infected so many groups and minds. It's time to fight back for the Panth of Dasmesh Pita, mr dasmeshforce.

Do you know or have spoken to anyone who was there at the time? Do you know ANYTHING about the things Dhumma has been upto at Taksal? If so you would not have responded in this way.

Inder Singh: You wanna discuss Dal Khalsa and so-on, why dont you open another thread? Better still why dont you go take it up with Manmohan Singh instead of crying on here.

Yes we have spoken. Anyone who went to demonstrate against this thug ashutosh deserve appreciation.

Stop singling out organizations here.You have been warned for that.

If dal khalsa or anyother organization does acts that are detrimental to sikh panth they will be exposed.

Dal Khalsa UK lol - the biggest joke of an "organisation" - one man band of Manmohan (with a few young ex-drugies from Southall).

Who do you think your slandering singhni?

You disrespecting singhs in southall? ex druggies? which ones did u do drugs with exactly? Because they're all clean, FACT.

how dare you make such comments. mend your ways.

your southall kaurageous and I could easily humiliate you with just a few lines regarding most of your members activities. But I dont resort to your level.

Speak of facts and stop making lies for amusement purposes. Or you may soon find some hillarious truths emerging which you lot would rather keep burried.

Speak with respect for all.

He is not speaking about southhall youth in general.

Please do not take it personal. Remian focussed on Sarna's anti sikh activities.

I heard the conference went very well.There were many people to listen.